314299 Modified, NOE Group Buy. See post 43

[Lead melter]

Have I missed one or has one been done? Maybe in the Lee six-pack?

[RugerFan]

Ooohhhhh.....I'd be very interested.

[RGS]

what's it look like?

[94Doug]

I would be interested too...

[dromia]

The 314299 is too long to fit into a Lee 6 cavity block, NuJudge did a GB on 314299 variant that was successful I believe. Tom Myers did the drawing and there is a link to it here:

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=6064&highlight=NuJudge&page=2

All you need is a honcho, agreement on the specs, a drawing and some patience if you are going to Lee.

Some of the other mould makers might be worth a try for a 4 holer, like NEI, their No. 85A looks close and is a stock item. Its here on page 5 of their catalogue:

http://www.neihandtools.com/catalog.html

For some strange reason I missed out on this first time round so would be interested if this came off. :-D

[WKAYE]

I'd love to see this one "fly". I've been waiting and waiting and waiting. [smilie=1:

[missionary5155]

Greetings
Sounds like a good one !
Mike

[Outdoors]

I'd be interested, depending on the cost.
Is there any benefit to doing a GB with NEI? Their 4 bangers run what - $140?

Pat

[RugerFan]

I'd be interested, depending on the cost.
Is there any benefit to doing a GB with NEI? Their 4 bangers run what - $140?

Pat

Quicker turn around and better quality.

[dromia]

No point in doing a GB with NEI when its a stock item, I seem to remember that they don't do reductions for GBs so there would be no savings from them on a GB.

Thats why the Nujudge mould would have more legs, any volunteers for a Honcho?

[Outdoors]

No point in doing a GB with NEI when its a stock item, I seem to remember that they don't do reductions for GBs so there would be no savings from them on a GB.

That's what I was wondering.

Thanks!

Pat

[C1PNR]

No point in doing a GB with NEI when its a stock item, I seem to remember that they don't do reductions for GBs so there would be no savings from them on a GB.

Thats why the Nujudge mould would have more legs, any volunteers for a Honcho?
Is this the one using the Tom Myers drawing in .316 diameter and 200 grain?

[dromia]

Is this the one using the Tom Myers drawing in .316 diameter and 200 grain?

Sounds like, see the link in post No. 5.

[quasi]

I would be in for a Nu judge 6 cavity Lee.

[smlekid]

I would be interested if one could be sent to Australia

[45nut]

is this dead? NOE are you out there?

[wiljen]

I might even come out of retirement to honcho a buy if it were a cross between the 314299 and the 311331 - ie drops at .314-.315 and casts at 215-220gr.

(Not Lee but either BRP or NOE - this something either block would handle?)

[SwedeNelson]

The 311299/314299 if one of my favorite bullets.
Something to look at:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/picture.php?albumid=145&pictureid=774

Would run this one in a heart beat.
Lets get it going.

Swede Nelson

[45nut]

Wow.. just wow.

[Piedmont]

If one wanted this for a .303 British most rifles would prefer a nose .002-.003" larger and bands a thousandth or two larger than the one pictured. I beagle my standard 314299 to just what I'm suggesting and it improves it in my .303s.

[wiljen]

If one wanted this for a .303 British most rifles would prefer a nose .002-.003" larger and bands a thousandth or two larger than the one pictured. I beagle my standard 314299 to just what I'm suggesting and it improves it in my .303s.

Kinda the same thing I was thinking there Piedmont. A little heavier would be nice too.

[longbow]

Here is another vote for larger diameter and heavier.

I would go 0.305" nose and 0.316" driving bands with weight at maybe 215 to 220 grs.

I already modeled the basic boolit in 3D so will play to get the weight with the diameters.

I will double check against my mould, increase diameters a little then lengthen to get the weight.

I wouldn't even mind plain base, I don't shoot many gas checks.

What is everyone else thinking?

Longbow

[m.chalmers]

Here is another vote for larger diameter and heavier.

I would go 0.305" nose and 0.316" driving bands with weight at maybe 215 to 220 grs.

I already modeled the basic boolit in 3D so will play to get the weight with the diameters.

I will double check against my mould, increase diameters a little then lengthen to get the weight.

I wouldn't even mind plain base, I don't shoot many gas checks.

What is everyone else thinking?

Longbow

Minus the plain base and you have the CBE 315 218 mould.
http://www.castbulletengineering.com/page001.html

I would love to get that in a four (+) banger.

[Jon K]

I'll go for an NOE, but NOT LEE.

Jon

[smlekid]

I'd love to see one with a .316" drivingband
I'm not really up to speed with rifle loads and bullets with cast but would it not be better to size down to .314" then have them drop at .314"?
the average bore sizes I would be loading for is .314" but I have one rifle at .316"

[45nut]

The boolit wont fit Lee blocks, that's why it had never been done. Now, we have options on board that CAN do it. That is the beauty of having these guys on board.

[longbow]

Okay then, here are some options:

314299 as best I can measure it, weight = approx. 207 grs.

314299 with stretched shank, front band 0.100" (stock), two 0.65" driving bands, weight = 213 grs.

314299 as above but plain base. weight = 219 grs.

As I was modeling this it occured to me that CBE, as mentioned above, has some very nice designs so maybe a group buy of CBE?

Longbow

[dromia]

Thanks for offereing Al.

I'm happy to go with NOE, turn around should be quicker than CBE also Jim only does 2 cav rifle boolit moulds.

.315"- .316 with more rather than less weight is good for me.

I'm in for a five holer. [smilie=w:

Been waiting for this to come off for years. :cbpour:

[SwedeNelson]

Something more to look at.
Gave you a few more dim. to look at too.
If we are going to do it we should do it right.
Haven't checked the weight yet.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/picture.php?albumid=145&pictureid=1242

More input please!
Swede Nelson

[Piedmont]

Feedback. OK. I think your dimensions as far as diameters go are about perfect. Hornady .30 caliber gas checks max out at .316" (don't know about the Gators).

I own an Old West .316 220 gr that is like your revised drawing except for the point, which on the OW is a flatnose and blunter right before the end. It is a good bullet, but it doesn't feed as well as the Lyman 314299. I personally would prefer making this a 200 gr. because I fear you will be putting the gas check too deep in the case. Will the nose of the proposed 220 spire point still fit the magazine? But I can always shim my regular 314299.

Maybe you should take a vote? I will say that even a .3125 .303 barrel works just fine with a bullet as large in diameter as your most recent drawing, and .3125 is pretty tight for an Enfield.

[SwedeNelson]

Piedmont

"Will the nose still fit the magazine?"
That's the biggest reason I posted the Dim.
I have nothing to go by but input from you all.
Drawings can be changed easily, tooling a little
harder.

Thanks and keep the input coming.
Swede Nelson

[Piedmont]

Swede, I just did some measurements. My Lyman bullet is about 1.205" with check. The .220 Ow is about 1.140" with check. The OW has a longer band section (.59" with check) and this is workable. The bottom is below the neck but the front of the check is about at the neck base.

My OAL with the OW 220 gr. is 2.980". The determiner is the front band not the nose. My magazine at this OAL has about .10" of extra length. So if I am seeing this correctly my Old West nose could be .10 longer than the .550" it is. So .650 would be an acceptable nose length and that is shorter than in your last drawing. Hope this helps and I hope some of the guys with the CBE long bullets will chime in.

[SwedeNelson]

Piedmont

Thanks for the info.
This is assuming a case length of 2.22"
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/picture.php?albumid=145&pictureid=1244

Input Please!
Swede Nelson

[Piedmont]

I'm looking at the original nose length of the Lyman 314299 and it is the same as in your long 220 gr. drawing. I use that bullet which must mean I don't seat the front band into the throat, because if works through the magazine.

Now looking at your drawing with the bullet (oops boolet) in the case I think if I had a nose that long I would want a shorter band section. One thing you are missing with the last drawing is most .303 chambers are loose and the neck shortens and then we just size enough to chamber, putting the base that much deeper in the powder space.

So if I were keeping that long nose I personally would knock 10 grains off the band section. But if you do that the nose darn well better fit the lands because the band section isn't long enough to do much steering.

[C1PNR]

Didn't we do this as a 314299 @ 200gr in a Lee GB some time ago? Cut it down to 200 gr to make it fit the Lee block dimensions.

I think it was a NuJudge "Fat .30" buy rather than a traditional GB.

I'd prefer to stick with the heavier design closer to 220 - 225 gr.

And certainly NOE rather than Lee.

[Mallard57]

I would prefer the dimensions in post #18.

Jeff

[m.chalmers]

Swede # 29 looks great to me. A few Gr. heaver the the CBE mould I posted. Plus I can get a four + banger. That .316 works great in my Long Lee's and worn Enfield's.

Please,please,please.... run #29
:)

[B747]

The 314299 is a great / proven bullet and I don't think we should stray very far from those specs.

As has already been mentioned here --- I can see real problems with getting gas checks on a shank that is large enough to get out to 316 or so. The Gator checks on my 314299 are already difficult to start and make sure they don't start tipped.

A 305 nose will not fit very far in the throat of most rifles and will result in seating the bullet base way down into the cartridge. Keep in mind also that these dimensions are when cast from wheelweights and if you cast from an alloy with a fair amount of antimony they will increase another .001".

Count me in for one if it stays pretty close to 314299 specs with a 303 to 304 nose max and base at 315 max with WW's.

Wally

[dromia]

For me I'd need .304" - .305" on the nose and .315" - .316" on the driving bands.

I already have a 314299 that gives me .303" on the nose and a good .314" on the driving bands but need something bigger for some rifles that the 314229 doesn't work in.

For me bore riders need to fill the bore, any slack and they don't work too well.

Maybe we need svelte and portly versions, an opportunity to buy two moulds. :veryconfu[smilie=w::veryconfu

[dromia]

Also forgot to say, a oversized bore rider like this would be good for worn throats giving the boolit a chance to seat out to the rifling.

[dromia]

Is this likely to get on the stocks Al?

[m.chalmers]

The 314299 is a great / proven bullet and I don't think we should stray very far from those specs.

As has already been mentioned here --- I can see real problems with getting gas checks on a shank that is large enough to get out to 316 or so. The Gator checks on my 314299 are already difficult to start and make sure they don't start tipped.

Wally

Wally, the shank is .286, so the checks work fine. My CBE mould shank is bigger (.292 IIRC) and the checks work fine.

Now if I can get a 5 banger I want two :)

[SwedeNelson]

OK this is what I would like to run.
Will start a group buy.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/picture.php?albumid=145&pictureid=1256

Swede Nelson

[SwedeNelson]

For information on this buy see “Lyman 314299 clone”:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=45907

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/picture.php?albumid=145&pictureid=1256
314299 MOD GC. 202Gr,

This is how N.O.E. is going to run our group buy.

You can ether PM or E-mail me at (pbsco1 @ qwestoffice.net) with
what you want. Will post a running list of user name and how many
cavities / options. When we get 15 on the list the order will go in for
the tooling. It takes two to three weeks for the tooling to get in.
We will keep the buy open until the tooling gets in.

At that time we will close the buy and ask you to send in your
payment.

It will take another three to four weeks to run the moulds.

Prices will be as follows:
Single cavity mould $68.00 Ea.
Double cavity mould $72.00 Ea.
Three cavity mould $79.00 Ea.
Four cavity mould $85.00 Ea.
Five cavity mould $92.00 Ea.
Plus Shipping/Handling.
Prices are subject to change at any time.

You can mix number of cavities in an order to make 15.
We will offer gas check only on this bullet.

Use LEE Commercial 6-Cavity handles (not included).
Lyman, RCBS type top punch furnished with each mould
as well as a sample of Bull Plate sprue plate lube.
Moulds are machined from 2024 Aluminum
Used for high strength structural and aircraft applications.
Tensile strength range 30,000 to 63,000 psi
Sprue plate (blued), alignment pins, and hardware will be
carbon steel.

Hollow pointing one cavity and furnishing a double
ended pin would be $35.00 Extra.

We will accept Checks, Money Orders and Pay-Pal
Pay-Pal requires a 3% sir-charge.

Our mailing address is:
Night Owl Enterprises
1645 W 150 N
Provo, Utah 84601
801 377-7289

ZIP Code List
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89446
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39466
61832
92530
12998
15401
95660
81003
85260
23462
08043
93433
49269
21850
3889
57107
12586
78250
DH3 2AY
89102
83706
S7J 2X9
V1N 1S2
32766
28625
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DL16 7EN
48415
74019
68310
12912
44233
85260
E17 4SR
54773
65536




Thank you for your interest in this buy.
Swede Nelson

[SwedeNelson]

List of orders:
*1 Dutch4122 5 cavity
*2 Dromia 5 cavity, 1 cavity w/HP
*3 m. chalmers 5 cavity
*4 dominicfortune00 4 cavity
*5 BruceB 4 cavity
*6 smlekid 4 cavity
*7 missoionary5155 4 cavity
*8 keeper89 2 cavity
*9 leadmelter 4 cavity
*10 Swiss 96/11 5 cavity
*11 Mohillbilly 5 cavity w/HP
*12 dualsport 2 Cavity
*13 Jvg5576 4 cavity w/HP
14 rvpilot76 5 cavity
*15 303brit 5 cavity
*16 walltube 2 cavity
*17 Jack Stanley 4 cavity
*18 no34570 4 cavity
*19 C1PNR 5 cavity
*20 Jon k 5 cavity
*21 gunnerd 3 cavity w/HP
*22 chboats 2 cavity
*23 azhunter 5 cavity
*24 blaser.306 4 cavity w/HP
*25 B747 4 cavity
*26 Crash Corrigan 4 cavity w/HP
*27 grages 5 cavity
*28 JMN322 5 cavity
*28 piedmont 3 cavity w/HP
*29 15bobcat 2 cavity
*30 mikeSSS 5 cavity w/HP
*31 K31Swiss 4 cavity
*32 farmall1066 3 cavity
*33 adkpete 3 cavity w/HP
*34 closey 2 cavity
*35 94Doug 5 cavity
*36 longbow 4 cavity
*37 blackknight 2 cavity


Thanks
Swede Nelson

[Piedmont]

Well I'm on board.

[dromia]

Wow! thats a dream boolit if ever I saw one, count me in. :grin::drinks::grin:

[BruceB]

With a .305" nose and .316" bands, how can a man resist? This NOE-version 314299 will be a winner, I'm sure.

I'm in for a four-cavity mould with dimensions as stated by Swede in his latest post.

Already looking forward to the 311284 mould...

[Dutch4122]

PM sent:grin:

5 cavity ordered.

[SwedeNelson]

Got the group buy started:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=61892

Thanks
Swede Nelson

[m.chalmers]

PM sent on a five banger :) :) :)

[dominicfortune00]

I'll take a 4 cav.

Should get the order out on Tuesday.

Oops, make that when the funds are requested.

[fatnhappy]

I'll take a 4 cav.

Should get the order out on Tuesday.

Hey Swede,
Make sure you send him a christmas card. I think he paid to put braces on your kid.

LOL
dean

[smlekid]

I'll take a 4 cav

[m.chalmers]

Only nine more to go. If you shoot an Enfield (Smle, #4,#5...) you NEED this mould.

[missionary5155]

Good morning
And I bet this would be a winner in a 1985 Winny 30 Gov (30-40 Krag) that has a FAT bore.
I will take a 4 holer. Pm "on the way".

[keeper89]

If it is not too late to get in on this, I would certainly go for a two cavity......zip 12998
thanks,
Mike

[Lead melter]

Okay Swede, thanks for stepping up to the plate on this one. I just sent you a PM for a 4 cav. My M-N's and my son's 7.7 Jap ought to like this one.

[swiss 96/11]

I am in for a 5-cavity with a .305 nose, will work great in my 7.65 Arg.

[m.chalmers]

Tell your friends. Only need five more buyers.

Tell'm :)

[Mohillbilly]

My MK V ought to like this one maybe a Moisin or two. I'd like a fiver with a HP option.

[dualsport]

I'll take a double cavity, if it's not too late. Now I gotta search how to buy in on a group buy. Let me know if I'm not doing this right.

[jvg5576]

PM sent for one 4-cavity.

Excellent quality and service on the 311407 group buy!

[rvpilot76]

One five-cav for me, thanks!

Kevin

[303Brit]

Put me down for a 5 cavity mould.
Thanks

[dromia]

That makes 15 people and 16 Moulds.

We're a goer. [smilie=w:

Huzzah! Huzzah! :drinks:

[SwedeNelson]

Huzzah! Huzzah!
Will order the tooling today.
And start to PM every one with a cost.
The tooling is running about 2 to 2 1/2 weeks.
So we will keep the buy open until we get
it in - for any that would still like to get in.

Thanks for the orders
We couldn't do it with out you.
Swede Nelson

[no34570]

SwedeNelson
Is it too late to get in on this buy?
I have 4 .303's that would love this mould
PM is on the way to you
no34570

[C1PNR]

While I MUCH prefer the one in post # 29, if that one is just not in the cards, for $7 extra I'll take a 5 cavity GC, with no frills.

[SwedeNelson]

C1PNR

Running the one in post #44
Will put you down for a 5 cavity.

Thanks
Swede Nelson

[keeper89]

Payment is on the way. Thanks for running with this.
Mike

[jvg5576]

payment mailed today

[Gunnerd]

YES, I want one! A 3 cavity, if you please, with an HP option. PM on the way; ZIP is 65536. Payment will be sent as soon as my Student Loan check gets in, sometime in early Oct.
Thanks!!!

[smlekid]

Hi SWede PAyment sent this morning via Paypal

[blaser.306]

Will the same nose punch work for both solid point and hollow point Boolits or do you need seperate nose punches for sizing/lubricating ???

[SwedeNelson]

Blaser.306

We only offer one nose punch.

Swede Nelson

[swiss 96/11]

Payment sent today,THANKS for another fine mould.

[Farmall 1066]

Swede, I PM'd you for a 3-holer. I'm new to these, so let me know what I need to do on my end, and where to send $$'s

Andy

[Jack Stanley]

Sending you a check with tomorrows mail , Thanks , Jack

[chboats]

Just can't stand it any longer, sign me up for a 2 cavity. PM sent. Payment goes out in todays mail

Thanks
Carl

[Jack Stanley]

Just can't stand it any longer, sign me up for a 2 cavity. PM sent. Payment goes out in todays mail

Thanks
Carl

It's good to see that I'm not the only one that collapsed under the pressure !!;)

Jack

[azhunter12]

I'll take a 5 cavity

[blaser.306]

Put me down for a ( three cavity ) one hollow point mold , pmnt will be sent on this coming friday oct . 3 tnx. Blaser.306

[jvg5576]

If it's not too late, I'd like to add a HP to one cav. Sending PM.

[B747]

Sent a PM for a 4 cavity.

[Crash Corrigan]

Sent PM for 4 cavity w/Hollow Point

[grages]

PM sent for a 5 cavity if still open.

Shawn

[blaser.306]

P/M and PMNT. sent for 4 cavity w/1 holow point .

[adkpete]

I'd like a two cavity if it's not too late.
Pete

[94Doug]

This may be a silly question. Was there a standard 314299 and also a modified? I thought when I first followed this there was.... Did I miss that one?

Doug

[dromia]

The "standard" 314299 is the Lyman design an enlarged 311299.

There has been a desire on these boards for a while for more than a two gang 314299 mould becuase of its poularity.

Unfortunatley in the past when lee was the custom mould maker of choice here they couldn't do it as their blocks aren't deep enough.

When NOE stepped up to the mark with this design it was tweaked slightly, especially in making the diameters a tad larger on the premise its easier to size down a couple of thou than size up.

So the NOE offering that we are all so excited about is modified and the Lyman is the standard, my Lyman drops boolits as spec but some of their nore recent renderings seem to be undersized.

Sounds like worn cherries but only Lyman really know whats going on at their end.

[94Doug]

Got it. Thanks!

d

[94Doug]

Do we have a cut off date on this one?

Doug

[closey]

PM sent for 2 cavity, hope i am not too late.

Closey

[dromia]

I told you Joe, resistance is useless. :lol:

[SwedeNelson]

Last Call!

Got the tooling in.
Will close this buy Wednesday 10/28/09.
If you want to get in on this one now is the time.
Get your payments in and we will get it in the shop.

Thanks for the orders
Swede Nelson

[Lead melter]

Hey Swede,
Payment sent 10/15, but not yet listed. Let me know if there is some trouble and I can address the issue. Then again, the Pony Express may be running a bit behind!!!!!!

[dromia]

Al have you been updating the payments?

Sent the money on the 7th along with the dosh for the K31 mould but my name hasn't gone green yet.

I'm not precious about the colour just want to sure you've got the money. :D

[closey]

Payment sent 18th October via paypal,

Closey

[Blackknight]

I put the PMO in the mail about lunch time today. Will be looking forward to not have to beagle my old Lyman so often. The 314299 is one of my all time favorite boolets, it is just a little too small at times.

Thanks for your effort.

[dromia]

I'm getting very excited about this boolit now.

Having this tried and tested classic in a 5 cavity mould secure in the knowledge that it will be cut accurately with a HP mould as well seems just too good to be true.

This really is a dream come true.

Are they ready yet Al ??? [smilie=l:

[94Doug]

OK, I will get "off the Pot" I want a 5 Cavity, sending a PM......

Doug

[longbow]

Just to make sure I get listed:

Payment sent by PayPal for 4 cavity mould.

I just couldn't not have this one!

Longbow

[blaser.306]

Any idea when this mold might start to ship ??? Not pushy just cant wait !!!

[K31Swiss]

Are you going to list zipcodes of payments received?

Sent mine 10/9, haven't seen if received.

[SwedeNelson]

K31Swiss

Zip code list is on post #44
Shop should start on this one in about a week and a half.

Thanks
Swede Nelson

[Farmall 1066]

Will be sending M/O tonight or tomorrow, Depending on when I get off work.

Thanks Swede

[Farmall 1066]

Info and payment sent this AM. from zipcode 63810. Nothing like waiting till the last minute!

Andy

[SwedeNelson]

This buy is closed.
If you havent got you money in yet please do so now.
Thanks for the orders.

Swede Nelson

[K31Swiss]

Any updates on the progress of these molds?

[SwedeNelson]

k31Swiss

Check this thread:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=68694
See post #24 or the last post for more detail.

Thanks
Swede Nelson

[blaser.306]

This might be an odd question but may make a difference to those of us that ordered a hp. option on our mould . Where do you cut the hp. cavity ? First cav.(farthest from the handle) or last cav. (closest to the handle) I ask because if I cut a channel in the base of my Lee pro 4-20 bottom pour it would only need to be a notch instead of a long slot , Possibly weakening the base . Obviously will take it as it comes , but was just wondering . Thanks Blaser

[SwedeNelson]

blaser.306

Not a odd questions at all.
We cut it in a end cavity.
You can change the sprue plate
to make it either end.

Swede Nelson

[blaser.306]

Perfect that's kind of the ingenuity that I was hoping for! looking forward to casting with your moulds .Barclay!

[SwedeNelson]

Just for reference.
List of orders:
*1 Dutch4122 5 cavity
*2 Dromia 5 cavity, 1 cavity w/HP
*3 m. chalmers 5 cavity
*4 dominicfortune00 4 cavity
*5 BruceB 4 cavity
*6 smlekid 4 cavity
*7 missoionary5155 4 cavity
*8 keeper89 2 cavity
*9 leadmelter 4 cavity
*10 Swiss 96/11 5 cavity
*11 Mohillbilly 5 cavity w/HP
*12 dualsport 2 Cavity
*13 Jvg5576 4 cavity w/HP
*14 rvpilot76 5 cavity
*15 303brit 5 cavity
*16 walltube 2 cavity
*17 Jack Stanley 4 cavity
*18 no34570 4 cavity
*19 C1PNR 5 cavity
*20 Jon k 5 cavity
*21 gunnerd 3 cavity w/HP
*22 chboats 2 cavity
*23 azhunter 5 cavity
*24 blaser.306 4 cavity w/HP
*25 B747 4 cavity
*26 Crash Corrigan 4 cavity w/HP
*27 grages 5 cavity
*28 JMN322 5 cavity
*28 piedmont 3 cavity w/HP
*29 15bobcat 2 cavity
*30 mikeSSS 5 cavity w/HP
*31 K31Swiss 4 cavity
*32 farmall1066 3 cavity
*33 adkpete 3 cavity w/HP
*34 closey 2 cavity
*35 94Doug 5 cavity
*36 longbow 4 cavity
*37 blackknight 2 cavity


Thanks
Swede Nelson

[blaser.306]

Can't wait ..... But will !!!!!

[Gunnerd]

Hey, Al, how's tricks?

[SwedeNelson]

Had to do some polishing on the form tool.
But this one is on the mill.
Ken and Jared are hard at it.
What a great pair to work with.

Swede Nelson

[grages]

That's great news Swede,

Actually I think yall are a great Trio! :)

Shawn

[dromia]

Hard to hold my water now! :grin:

[94Doug]

Geeez, Dromia.

d

[Farmall 1066]

Can't wait!!! (But will) Excited to try this one out!

[SwedeNelson]

Cast with this tonight.
Dimensions good, weight 207Gr,
Gas check a snap fit.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i80/swedenelson/316299202Gr001.jpg
One observation, you have to cast this one hot to get the nose to fill out.
Got some very strange dimensions from a cold block. May take a little tin too.
But casts very good.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i80/swedenelson/316299202Gr005.jpg
NOE 316299 and Lyman 314299
Finish QC and hope to start shipping in a day or two.

Swede Nelson

[94Doug]

I think I just had the problem that Dromia almost had a couple of days back.

Doug

[longbow]

Me too!!!!!

[dromia]

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!! :oops:

[dualsport]

I usually cast pretty hot, got a good supply of tin. I'm ready! But what to try it in first? Maybe the Argie?

[missionary5155]

Good morning
My first application will be in a FAT throated 1895 Winny 30-40 krag... then all the real Krags.

[keeper89]

Have been waiting patiently and am VERY glad that the patience required was not ths same level of patience needed on other gb's I have participated in. I have a Mk 4 No1 and a Mosin that have been waiting patiently. Thank the powers that there will be a bit of cold weather left when this mold arrives, I really don't like casting in a sweat ( although I will.....lol) thanks swede.....hope the bp meds hold out......lol

[Lead melter]

My M-Ns and a 7.7 Jap are standing in line.


"Mt. Chacahni from my roof in Arequipa. 20,000 and about 18 miles away. Snowed up there last night. "

Missionary, thanks for the changing avatar. I like 'em if nobody else does!

[Jon K]

Looking GOOD Al.

Jon

[Dutch4122]

I'm ready! But what to try it in first? Maybe the Argie?

You read my mind on that one![smilie=w:

1891 Argentine Long Rifle in original trim as manufactured by Loewe.

Thanks for seeing this one through, Al!:mrgreen:

[dromia]

Metford rifled Long Lee for me. :grin:

Alloy around 18 Bhn.

White Label 2500 lube looking at around 1800 fps with Viht N120 powder.

Phwoarrrrrr!

[BCall]

Let me be the first to say, if you post extras, I WANT ONE. Should have gotten in from the beginning. Billy

[blaser.306]

lead pot is at t the rolling boil waiting for this mould , even though it's too cold to shoot I can't wait !!!!!!!!

[Gunnerd]

Al, those are absolutely GORGEOUS!

[dualsport]

Got an email from the post office!:razz:

[dromia]

Moi aussi.

[Farmall 1066]

:grin:Can'twaitcan'twaitcan'twaitcan'twait!!!!!!!! !:grin:

[m.chalmers]

Got mine today!!!!!!! 10 min. ago. Now I need some time off to play :)

I love that NOE marks the mould (316299). No guessing what is what when my kids, brother, ..... use my stuff.

[rvpilot76]

Yeah Buddy!!!!!

[Jack Stanley]

Got mine , cleaned it up and went after it with a full pot of reasonably hard ( 12 bhn ) with a little tin added . It would'nt fill at 650 700 or 750 . at 800 it stopped the wrinkles but it started to get spots of frosting that would shrink from the side of the mold . The body diameter is large enough that I think the mosin would love it but after ten pounds of alloy in the mold I don't have a bullet to show for it . Like the last mold the gas check shank is to large for my Hornady checks but , I didn't try all four different lot numbers of checks like I did with the last one .

I'll have to fill the pot with lino soon for a batch of smaller caliber stuff and when I get done maybe I'll try it again . With the shank to big , it isn't going to do me much good for what I wanted . It does help me decide what to do with the mosin though .

Jack

[Jon K]

Got mine today. Warming prior to use now and will try it out tomorrow, when I get home from the range.

Looking GOOD.....Al.

Thanks,
Jon [smilie=s:

[grages]

I got mine, Thanks Swede

Shawn

[94Doug]

Got mine too. Looks lovely!!

Doug

[Lead melter]

Pony Express made a stop by the ranch today!!!!!!!! Looks great. Just got done fireforming some 7.7 Jap brass with .311" boolits. 60 yards all on paper, can't wait to try some at .314" or so.
Thanks a bunch, Swede!

[walltube]

Again I thank you for your stewardship in organising another NOE mould Group Buy for 'Cast Boolits'. This Lyman pattern 314-299(M) is a .316 wish come true. Your choosing of the journeyman machinists that produce these gems is evidence of your keen eye towards quality; and for that, tonight, I'll raise a pint of 'Rogue' Chipotle Ale in all Ya'lls honor. :drinks:

S'ok, when does the 311-365 get underway?...:)

Y.T.,

Harold

[Farmall 1066]

Got mine last night, and will try casting with it tomorrow. Thanks for all your hard work on this.
Andy

[keeper89]

Mine is here and quality shows through strongly. I am looking forward to my next days off so I can cure the mold and start a batch through the process.....well worth the wait--even if it had been twice as long! Thanks, Al I will be watching for future designs--always looking for 6.5, 7, and 8 mm as well as 30, 375, and heavy 45 rifle.A helluva good job!

[Gunnerd]

Who said quality workmanship in America is dead? By the looks of my first GB mold, Al and his team are keeping it alive and well! Outstanding job! I'll lift a glass to you boys, tonight!
Thanks!

[dominicfortune00]

Mine was waiting for me when I got home Saturday.

Looks very nice and shiny!

Good Job Al!

[Piedmont]

Can any of you give us the actual as-cast diameters of the band section and nose?

[Gunnerd]

After staying up all night prepping and seasoning, mine drops at .3135 x .303. I hope this size will work in my Long Branch.

O.K., I just slugged the bore with one of the boolits; what started out as a .3135 x .303, became a .316 x .302. The measurement across the grooves on the boolit were .304 Nice tight fit all the way through. The nose rode the bore along the entire length of the boolit. All I gotta do now is load some up! When Pat's checkmaker gets here, I will let you boys know what happens!

[30hrrtt]

If there's any extras, I'll take one.

[Gunnerd]

OK, the earlier measurements are incorrect; I did not have the mold hot enough. The new, consistent measurements are .315 x .304, using ACWW, and WCWW. VERY consistent!
Excellent job, Al!

[30hrrtt]

If they are closer to .315 .304 I will not be able to use it.

[SwedeNelson]

Gunnerd

I had the same problem, had to run it hot to get them filled out.

30hrrtt

Have some other sizes too.
311299 with a .300 nose and a
314299 with a .303 nose.
Ran them at the same time as the 316299.

Swede Nelson

[C1PNR]

Got my package, and envelope, on the same day! Thanks Al!

[30hrrtt]

I'll take the 311299 with the 300 nose. I wouldn't even have to size em. How many cavities?

Just got your 360180 and it sure is pretty. Thanks.

[B747]

Did some casting today with the NOE 316299 4 cavity mold I got a few days ago.

Used the alloy I had in my Magma 40 lb pot --- about 80% WW and 20% Lino and ran it pretty hot --- right at 810F and a fairly fast cycle of about 25 secs between fills.

It cast right on the specified dimensions --- 305 on the nose and 316 bands. The weight with this alloy was 205.6 – 206.1 gns. Nice mold --- bullets dropped with just a light tap --- it's a keeper. I was concerned that a bullet this fat would be a bear to get the gas checks started on, but the 30 Cal Gator checks fit perfectly.

I am looking forward to checking these out in my Finn M39 but we are going down to about –15F again tonight here in the Dakotas so will have to wait a few days.

Wally

[Piedmont]

I ran some tonight too. From 50/50 Pb/ww mine are .3045 nose, .3155 bands, and 208 grains, sans check and lube.

[longbow]

I hope mine is on the way, I can't wait!

[smlekid]

Hi Swede my mould arrived today along with the gas check seater the tool sure looks good
I will have to fire the pot up and get stuck into these bullets

[dualsport]

163 posts!! Wow, was this a hit or what? I got mine, but haven't had time to try it out yet, finally got some work to do. The upside is I can start rebuilding the gun kitty. Anyway, how about any reports? .315/.316? Shot one yet? Maybe I'll get to do some casting this weekend. By the way, the mold is very nice looking, obviously made by someone with pride in their work.

[Gunnerd]

Al, since it is apparent that we will have to run this mold on the hot side, will there be any detrimental effects on the mold in the long run?

[SwedeNelson]

Gunnerd

Just run it like a mould that puts out frosted bullets.
It should last a life time.
Have been casting with one of our 360 155Gr. WC
(close to 2000 bullets)
and a 454424 255Gr, Keith (close to 1500 bullets)
The Keith likes to be hot too. Both are still like new.

Swede Nelson

[blaser.306]

My mould arrived today and I am (baking it ) as we speak . It shows absolutely no flaws and closes up tight like a drum . The only issue is with the nose punch that likely was thrashed about in transit , It now has a large crease in the mouth of it !:sad:
is there any sugestions for trying to get the gouge out ? or will I just have to get used to a mark on the boolit nose . Thanks again Al for producing a quality product at a more than fair price ! I can't wait till Saturday to tru and cast some up !!!!

[Gunnerd]

On that note, if anyone wants the nose punch that came with mine, let me know; it's yours. I use a Lee push-thru set-up.

[longbow]

Al:

I got mine today!

Looks like it was held up by Canadian customs. Not only did they open the package but I get the dubious honour of paying duty, provincial sales tax, federal sales tax and get this a handling fee! Total = $25.10. Got to keep our Canadian bureaucrats paid don't we!

What a beauty! I hope to cast with it later tonight or tomorrow and get shooting this weekend. If it casts even half as good as it looks the boolits will be perfect.

It is in the oven right now.

Thanks,
Longbow

[closey]

Got mine this morning Al, nice piece of kit, many thanks.

I had to pick mine up at the post office and got stung for £4.83 Value Added Tax, plus £8 "Royal Mail handling charge". :-?

Closey

[dromia]

Mine arrived yesterday along with the K31 mould, as always lovely work Al. Shame to put hot metal in it, no only joking.

Joe both my packages came straight through with no customs charge or VAT. :D

Told you the strike rate was one in three, shame you were the one but glad Iwasn't as well.

Looks like you've been robbed there, don't mention my name mind if you are going to raise Cain with parcel force.

[closey]

Dromia, the customs charges query line just rings and rings, 15 minutes solid today!!!!:evil: still no answer!:veryconfu

cest la vie,

Closey

[dromia]

They must have known it was your Julie calling.