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kenjuudo
04-04-2005, 09:14 PM
I'd like to know what dimmensions these drop at, nose diameter and distance from base to top of the front driving band.

jim

beagle
04-05-2005, 11:32 AM
Hang in there on this.

I saw this late last night and I'll measure some this afternoon and post tonight./beagle

beagle
04-05-2005, 12:28 PM
Okay...here we go.

Mine casts at .310+ a bit.
Nose is .300"
.847 with check is OAL
.350" base to crimp groove
.470" crimp band to nose
.370" top of driving band to nose

These may be off a bit as I'm eyeballing here with a set of calipers but they're not off very much.

Hope this works for you./beagle

kenjuudo
04-05-2005, 09:03 PM
Okay...here we go.

Mine casts at .310+ a bit.
Nose is .300"
.847 with check is OAL
.350" base to crimp groove
.470" crimp band to nose
.370" top of driving band to nose

These may be off a bit as I'm eyeballing here with a set of calipers but they're not off very much.

Hope this works for you./beagle

beagle, thanks! I think I'll order one and hope RCBS is more consistant on the finished product than Lyman. Working with a Marlin microgroove that has a really tight bore (.3005x.3081) and almost no throat.

I was initially amazed at the difference in dimensions between the 311291 samples I gathered for the project, was hoping the 30-150-FN design was short enough to work without putting the gas check past the neck of the case.

On the up side I now have a 311291 that casts .315-.316 for my milsurps...

beagle
04-06-2005, 09:59 PM
I haven't looked at that too close. I'd say in a .30/30, it's right at the neck/shoulder junction.

It's a good shooter though.

I HP'd one cavity of mine and that makes a good, light weight plinker and general bullet to have 4 or 5 boxes loaded all of the time.

I like the 311291 and have several moulds of that design buy the nose is a bit too pointy for my tastes and I bump them flat for the .30/30.

Now, the 311440's not bad but if you spread that nose any when seating checks, you have chambering problems.

So far, no problems with the 30-150-FN though. Hope it works out for you./beagle

Paul B
04-09-2005, 03:29 PM
Beagle. The Lyman #311291 was for years, the only mold I had for use in the 30-30. It was given to me, along with a Lyman cast iron pot and dipper when I was just a 16 years old kid just getting started in the casting game. I'm 66 now.
I used to load it with 30-0 gr. of 3031 in my 30-30 rifle and never worried about the nose being a problem. Never had a problem and took quite a few deer with that load. I figure the nose is blunt enough that it's no problem.
I learned about #31141 and eneded up over time with 2 Lyman molds in that style and an NEI clone and none of them shoot worth a damn. Go figure.
Paul B.

X-man
04-09-2005, 08:12 PM
As luck should happen, I was just given a like new Winchester 94 in .30-30 by the widow of a family friend. Came with a neat little Weaver 4X scope and a custom leather sling. If there is 50 rounds gone through it I'll eat my ball cap. Never fooled around with lever actions that much, other than rimfires, so this is will be a learning experience for me. Mainly into casting for my milsurps and hunting rifles, so looks like I'll be needing a new mould. Any opinions on the RCBS 150-FN and its suitability for Caribou/Black Bear? Or is there a better choice/heavier choice? :)

beagle
04-09-2005, 10:06 PM
Paul, none better than the 311291. I started with it in an 06 back in the 50s and it's still good.

Most of my shooting is done single shot so the sharp nose doesn't present a problem.

Still, it only takes a few minutes to bump a flat on them and give peace of mind.

One's a hollow point and my "nosepicker" TP bumps the flat on there anyway and that's what I use most of anyway. Most of my .30/30 shooting is done with the 30-150-FN HP./beagle

beagle
04-09-2005, 10:09 PM
X-man...there's always the 30-180-FN RCBS that runs about 190 grains from my mould, or the 311291, or the 311041. All of these run pretty heavy but shoot well in my rifle. They're just a bit heavy for plinking and range work unless I'm working up a load.

For plinking, I like 150 grainers though and the 30-150-FN or the Saeco #316 are class acts./beagle

X-man
04-10-2005, 02:10 AM
X-man...there's always the 30-180-FN RCBS that runs about 190 grains from my mould, or the 311291, or the 311041. All of these run pretty heavy but shoot well in my rifle. They're just a bit heavy for plinking and range work unless I'm working up a load.

For plinking, I like 150 grainers though and the 30-150-FN or the Saeco #316 are class acts./beagle

I just finished hitting myself in the head, d'oh! Why didn't I think of the RCBS 30-180-FN? I actually have that mould sitting in grease in a .50 cal ammo can. Haven't used it since last Fall and completely forgot about it! I'll have to dig it out and heat up the old pot! :grin: