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superior
12-27-2008, 06:35 PM
Ok, Who's got the simplest, cheapest, and the BEST boolit lube recipe that contains
NO beeswax? Dont ask me why, I'm just curious.:Fire:

sundog
12-27-2008, 07:03 PM
Jpw...

randyrat
12-27-2008, 07:13 PM
I second the JPW and i sell Beeswax. I do enjoy using the stuff on slow 45 acp loads. I'm just curious how much velocity can you get by with it?
Throw a small blob in a pan, heat a lttle, roll your boolits in it, cool and load..

The only drawback is "WOOO that smell"

mdi
12-27-2008, 08:47 PM
Equal parts Paraffin and Vaseline ( a little light on the Vaseline and a little heavy on the Paraffin), 1 tbsp STP. I usually toss in some carnuba wax flakes, about 1 or 2 tablespoons. Balance the Paraffin and Vaseline to get the consistancy you need. Works in my 44s.

superior
12-27-2008, 08:58 PM
I've heard of that type before, paraffin+vaseline, also paraffin+moly-graf extreme pressure grease.

prs
12-27-2008, 09:18 PM
Soy bean wax is a fair substitute and inexpensive; but I like cappings grade beeswax in my mix.

prs

Boerrancher
12-27-2008, 11:46 PM
I'm just curious how much velocity can you get by with it?

Randy,

If applied correctly I know you can get real close to 2500 fps. I use it on all of my 30 cal boolits. I load my 30-30 and 30-06 with cast boolits just like I would jacketed. I have over 300 rounds out of each of them and have yet to run a patch down the bore of either. I have posted some of my groups along with the load data in other threads, and they are all MOA or smaller. I am thinking about loading up some for my 300 win mag and finding out just how fast I can push them with JPW as a lube.

Best wishes from the Boer Ranch,

Joe

P.S. To answer the question that started this thread, JPW gets my vote. I don't heat it or the boolits at all. I toss a couple of globs in a plastic peanut butter jar, dump the boolits in and tumble the crap out of it. Once all of them are nice and slimy I dump them out on wax paper, stand them up on their base and let them dry for a couple of days. If you heat them up they dry faster, but end up with less lube on them and cannot be pushed as fast. The only leading I ever got was when I heated my boolits and shot them out of my 44 mag with a light coat of JPW.

hiram
12-28-2008, 01:16 AM
Pearl Lube

dk17hmr
12-28-2008, 01:20 AM
I use JPW on all types of stuff from .22's to .500's....ussally I will do a light coating of LLA let it dry for a few hours and then a few good coats of JPW using the same method as Joe. I use it with Ranch Dog bullets for full power 30-30 loads.

superior
12-28-2008, 02:05 AM
I'm getting a can of jpw tomorrow.

missionary5155
12-28-2008, 05:56 AM
Good morning Parifin (old candles... ) & bearing grease. 50/50 been using it for years. I shoot my 44-40 with it. softcast 220 + 8-10 grains Unique in a 1892 SRC Winny made in 1893. God Bless ya !

RU shooter
12-28-2008, 10:55 AM
There is also LLA ,I never used the JPW to compare it to but I get good results with it .

superior
12-28-2008, 01:01 PM
Candles and bearing grease, Ya gotta love that !

buck1
12-28-2008, 01:16 PM
I know bees wax can be a bit of a PITA in some ways , But I cant see myself making lube without it. Its just TOO GOOD! Its almost a good lube by its self...ALMOST. IMHO.....Buck

keebo52
12-28-2008, 07:31 PM
Gotta ask about JPW. Do you JPW lube before or after sizing of both?

dk17hmr
12-28-2008, 08:39 PM
All my bullets going through the Lee Sizer's get put in a zip lock bag and roll them around after a shot of WD-40 or 3 in 1 oil . Or a light coat of Lee Liquid run them through and then JPW.

Boerrancher
12-28-2008, 10:11 PM
I give em a light coat of JPW to size them, then after they are sized they get the heavy coat.


Best wishes from the Boer Ranch,

Joe

keebo52
12-28-2008, 11:53 PM
JPW is Johnson Paste Wax, right?

dk17hmr
12-29-2008, 12:06 AM
JPW=Johnson Paste Wax

DRNurse1
12-13-2013, 11:03 AM
We may want to avoid the heart of Texas for a bit. I read on another blog how the killer bees are headed for Superior's place for cutting into their market. <LOL>

Any word on the results of this experiment?

bangerjim
12-13-2013, 01:08 PM
Electrostatic gun applied powder coating!

bangerjim

Wolfer
12-13-2013, 01:26 PM
For a long time before I started keeping bees the lube I used in my pistols was one cake of parrifin and one Johnny bowl ring. Cheap, easy but I have no idea how fast you can push it.
On rifles I started with LLA and never saw a reason to change.

runfiverun
12-13-2013, 04:07 PM
this thread eventually lead to the invention of 45/45/10 lube..