Historical listing of Lee Custom Moulds

[Buckshot]

For a long time I've been thinking that a listing, which includes the drawing and possibly a photo of the actual boolit, should be made.

I have mine for my heavy 8mm (C326-240RF) and also for the 2 Wally Bator 30 cals (C311-200 RF & C316-220RF).

I would think a short synopsis at least listing the designer's name would be good. Possibly a number of the moulds run would be good too (if possible). Also those Oldfeller's currently still avail at Midsouth should be so listed as such.

Anyone having a print avail, just post it here with all available information and I will eventually lift them off and them make a 'sticky' post for viewing.

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Initial offering 1 - 10 - 05, ordered 4 - 4 - 05. Buckshot/Lee 6 cavity mould. Issued at 34 units. Drawn by 45 2.1

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Bator/Lee C358-200RF. Issue and other data unknown.

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Buckshot Heavy 8mm C326-240RF, one cavity. Drawn by Wally Bator.

....................Buckshot

[sundog]

Buckshot, maybe a good repository for all this stuff is on castpics, knida like all the other mould data we have. If there was a consensus on that it could all be sent to me and I would arrange a page or two, or however many, and it would be permanently archived, at least there, where everyone could get to it. What say you all? sundog

[45nut]

Awesome Idea Sundog and Buckshot. I always wondered if I had missed out before I found you guys at Shooters...............
Now the missing out is due to the activity both at the old board and now here. I will never complain about that however.
:lol:
CastPics has always been a great asset to this crew. Updating the links as mentioned on another thread is also a great idea.

[Buckshot]

.............Fine by me. I just think it's important to do it. I sat this morning at work trying to think of them all and all I could come up with was 6 or 7 of'em and I KNOW there were more.

...............Buckshot

[Maven]

For Example, there was Jay Downs' (aka Aladin) .30HBC design circa 2003, which he was able to push to ~2,300fps with excellent accuracy. I, unfortunately, was not. ...Maven

[StarMetal]

I vote for Oldfellers Frankie 1 and Frankie 2 althought it's a Mtn Mould.

Joe

[C1PNR]

Buckshot,

Is this "Buckshot Heavy 8mm C326-240RF, one cavity. Drawn by Wally Bator." the one Lee calls the "8mm Max?"

[Buckshot]

Buckshot,

Is this "Buckshot Heavy 8mm C326-240RF, one cavity. Drawn by Wally Bator." the one Lee calls the "8mm Max?"

...............No, the 8mm Max avail from Mid South is one of Oldfeller's boolits. His are bore riders. I'm kinda partial is=n a small way to Loverins.

..................Buckshot

[C1PNR]

...............No, the 8mm Max avail from Mid South is one of Oldfeller's boolits. His are bore riders. I'm kinda partial is=n a small way to Loverins.

..................Buckshot
Thanks for your response. I put that one in my own "Boolit" library.:)

And I presume there are no extra moulds extant? Like, maybe, waiting for a good home?;-)

[MT Gianni]

I have an old? lee mold that I don't know if it is a custom or not. A 454 235gr wadcutter with a button nose, single cavity and bolt on handles that appear to be original. I have just started casting in the early 1990's and have never seen a lee like this. It is a pain in the but as a single cavity pistol mold but throws round bullets. How did Lee's start out handle wise? gianni.

[Buckshot]

Thanks for your response. I put that one in my own "Boolit" library.:)

And I presume there are no extra moulds extant? Like, maybe, waiting for a good home?;-)

.........Nope. As it seems, most custom orders that go in could have had another 10 units tagged on and moved in a few weeks after the paid for ones get out. That heavy 8mm (and Oldfeller's, which are still avail) will thump you right smartly. One of my best loads is a casefull of TCCI-5020 ball surplus (57.0grs) and it makes the slug go 1950 fps from a 29" bbl. It's not one of my my favorite 8x57 loads because of that, but because they make such clannish groups on paper.

..............Buckshot

[Bret4207]

Buck-I think there were 2 versions of Jumps 6.5, your 316, 2 Bator 8mms, the 358-240? Bator, Old fellers 6.5 and what? 2- 8mm's or were those Wally Bators?, the 25DJ (LeftoverDJ/Emmet Boaz) GC and PB, the 30TL Plinker, the Fat 30, that abortion 177 Pam Anderson pellet, Aladin 30HBC, the 358-180? and 200? I forget, the 8xs56R monster masher, BD's 45, and now the new 45BDCM or what ever it's called and the 6.5 Short/Kurtz. What did I miss? Oh yeah- Maven and I at least have some 6.5's we got off Ebay, both are different. The seller said they were from a custom run. Thats all I know about them. Haven't shot them yet.

Agree they belong in Castpics. We'll forget the who's and what's if we don't save it.

[Bret4207]

Forgot the Lee soup can. Any others?

[Buckshot]

These are just for the custom Lee runs done via subscription by future or current members of the original Shooters.com and/or Cast Boolits

Oldfeller 22cal air rifle pellet (or was it .177")

Bator 55gr 22 cal (avail from Mid-South)

Jumptrap had two 140gr 6.5mm's. Spitzer and FN

Buckshot's 125gr 6.5mm Loverin

Oldfeller's 170gr 6.5mm

LeftoverDJ's 25 (I'm not familiar with that one)

A 7mm is sadly missing in this lineup..................

Beagle's 6 cav Lee C309113F (soup can)

Alladins 30 cal HBC, sharp spitzer

(????????) 30TL plinker

(????????) Copy Ly311440

Bator fat 30, C311-200RF

Bator fat 30, C316-220RF

Oldfeller 8mm Karabiner (avail from Mid-South)

Oldfeller 8mm Maximum (avail from Mid-Suuth)

Buckshot 8mm C326-240RF

(???????) 358-180???

Bator C358-200RF

Bator C358-250RF

(???????) 45 cal paper patch

(???????) Copy Ly 432250

(???????) Copy Ly452423

BD, Lee 6 cav BD45

AnthonyB, Lee 6 cav BD45CM

The Oldfeller slug for the 8x56R was a Mtn Moulds deal and wasn't a production run to subscribers.

So what else is missing and who's name needs to replace the question marks? What have I missed or messed up?

................Buckshot

[C1PNR]

These are just for the custom Lee runs done via subscription by future or current members of the original Shooters.com and/or Cast Boolits

Oldfeller 22cal air rifle pellet (or was it .177")

Bator 55gr 22 cal (avail from Mid-South)

Jumptrap had two 140gr 6.5mm's. Spitzer and FN

Buckshot's 125gr 6.5mm Loverin

Oldfeller's 170gr 6.5mm

LeftoverDJ's 25 (I'm not familiar with that one)

A 7mm is sadly missing in this lineup..................

Beagle's 6 cav Lee C309113F (soup can)

Alladins 30 cal HBC, sharp spitzer

(????????) 30TL plinker

(????????) Copy Ly311440

Bator fat 30, C311-200RF

Bator fat 30, C316-220RF

Oldfeller 8mm Karabiner (avail from Mid-South)

Oldfeller 8mm Maximum (avail from Mid-Suuth)

Buckshot 8mm C326-240RF

(???????) 358-180???

Bator C358-200RF

Bator C358-250RF

(???????) 45 cal paper patch

(???????) Copy Ly 432250

(???????) Copy Ly452423

BD, Lee 6 cav BD45

AnthonyB, Lee 6 cav BD45CM

The Oldfeller slug for the 8x56R was a Mtn Moulds deal and wasn't a production run to subscribers.

So what else is missing and who's name needs to replace the question marks? What have I missed or messed up?

................Buckshot
LeftoverDJ's .25 was done in both PB and GC (I got just the GC - haven't a clue why:???: I'm sure the PB would be just fine for the 25-20).

[Wayne Smith]

I have read that, at one time, a Lee custom mold was cut for the .41 Long Colt. I know nothing other than that reportedly it shot good. I'd love to have one.

[Buckshot]

LeftoverDJ's .25 was done in both PB and GC (I got just the GC - haven't a clue why:???: I'm sure the PB would be just fine for the 25-20).

..............How many cavities and what were the weights?

.............Buckshot

[Ranch Dog]

I have read that, at one time, a Lee custom mold was cut for the .41 Long Colt. I know nothing other than that reportedly it shot good. I'd love to have one.

I'd love a mold for my 41 Colt also! Not trying to hijack the post but killing the small two hogs in the attached photo with my Colt and period ammo was something.

I'm new to this forum and casting. With just a few months of study, I put together a Lee mold order last year that I would like you to consider adding to the list if you see fit. It is a TLC432-285-RF for the 444 Marlin. It's has the Lee Micro Bands for tumble lubing and a diameter suitable for the Marlin rifles. It has also been successful in the 1894 and 336 44 Rem Mags and I've shot it in Black and Red Hawks.

I've taken mule and whitetail deer, 12 feral hogs, a bobcat, and nilgai with the bullet... all in a year! I also received reports back from the fellows of bear, elk, and moose being taken with the bullet. Sure makes you feel good!

I've posted a picture of the drawing and a lubed bullet sitting next to a 265-grain Hornady.

[Buckshot]

............Ranch Dog, that's a good looking boolit, and it's list of credentials is certainly impressive! Which board did you run your design on? It should also work in a 44 Mag, wouldn't it?

Was it in a 6 cavity or 2 cav mould? I have a Martini bbl'd to 444 Marlin (16" twist) and that looks like a good mid-weight slug for it. I say mid weight as I have the 310gr Lee and have shot 380gr slugs (sized down 43 Spanish).

Since there are so many custom runs being done now (I think 3, and now they're talking about the 180gr 357 again) would you be interested in authoring another run in a couple months?

..............Buckshot

[Ranch Dog]

Buckshot...

I ran this through www.shootersforum.com and www.baitshopboyz.com. This is a two cavity mold. With my casting, I missed the "285" grain spec and get a 265-grain bullet as I'm casting with 50/50 wheel weights/linotype. Lee's spec is based on 90/10 wheel weights/tin. To me, the bullet is really a TLC432-265-RF, I feel I missed the mark a bit on grain weight with my choice of alloy. Most of the casters ended up with a bullet in the 270 to 280 grain weight range.

I tried the Lee C430-310-RF and the diameter is just too small for the Marlins. Or at least it is too small to put any pressure/velocity against the bullet. I'm pushing this special order bullet at 2350 to 2400 FPS without any leading and the accuracy has been super! Both my 444s, a P & a T, have been fire lapped following the Beartooth Technical Guide. I just purchased some pressure trace equipment and those velocities are only producing 40K so I'm going to be working with it a bit more after the outside air temperatures come up a bit more. I've shot it with just about all the Hodgdon rifle powders and H4198 is my favorite so far.

Like I noted in my first post, yes it shoots very well in the 44 Rem Mags. I killed a hog with it using a Winchester Trapper and have shot it in both a Blackhawk and a Redhawk. I'm not a pistol guy and my primary purpose with the bullet was something for the 444 Marlin. My Marlin Texan in 44 Mag loves the bullet.

Yes, I'm going to be working with this order again in the next couple of months as soon as my ranch work settles down for the summer. My plan is to send the mold back through as original and with some slight changes to give me a 285 to 290-grain bullet with my alloy. I'm also working on a TLC311-160-RF, TLC359-190-RF, and TLC377-210-RF. These will be high velocity hunting bullets for Marlins in 30-30 Win, 35 Rem, and 375 Win.

[Dutch4122]

Michael-

Glad to see you over here at Cast Boolits. You've come to the right place. Lots of interest in the Lee custom mold runs here. I'm sure you'll be able to get enough interest in your TLC432-285-RF when the time comes to take orders; especially with the proven track record of this design!

[Buckshot]

................Sundog, can you lift the images I posted off this thread to get them on Castpic's, or do you need them e-mailed to you as jpegs?

..................Buckshot

[sundog]

Buck, looks like I can get them from here. sundog

[sundog]

Got 3 more on castpics. sundog

http://www.castpics.net/RandD/Lee_moulds/Lee_Moulds.html

[TCLouis]

Ranch Dog

When you redo this mold order this summer would you mind bumping it up to a 6 Holer, most (but not all) of my 2 holers sit around gathering rust since the 6 holers came out.

I guess I am getting lazy cause I sure love to watch how fast the bullet pile grows under a 6 cavity mold.

265-280 would make me happy for plinking outa my SRH.

[trk]

..............How many cavities and what were the weights?

.............Buckshot

The .25 cal was in 6 cavity. One with GC one without. I've got one of each and the AutoCAD drawings for them (if anyone is interested just ask).

[Buckshot]

The .25 cal was in 6 cavity. One with GC one without. I've got one of each and the AutoCAD drawings for them (if anyone is interested just ask).

................Could you send them to Sundog so he could get them up on Castpics?

.............Buckshot

[trk]

................Could you send them to Sundog so he could get them up on Castpics?

.............Buckshot

I certainly will.

SUNDOG - I'll post here when I've sent them. Have you gotten the ones on the 30 HBC that I sent about a month ago?

[Hardcast]

The 452423 copy was drawn by 45 2_1. IIRC, he got the dimensions from an old Ideal or Lyman mold or cast bullet. It's been a while back so those details are getting somewhat foggy in my aging memory.

[j4570]

There is the Swiss Vetterli Mold.

We ran a few group buys at swissrifles.com. I think the dimensions are over there. Single cavity mold with option to buy both base plugs, solid or hollow.

I haven't actually shot any yet, just cast a few in the past months as I've been playing with casting for the first time in 15 years since helping my father.

Jason

[Willbird]

I did the

434-250 (RF single groove plain base 3 crimp grooves)
454-275 (RF 2 groove plain base)
314-120 (RF single groove plain base)(still have extras avail)

All drawn by 452.1

Bill

[PatMarlin]

Fat-30 LarGlenn

311407 Charles Chargar

[trk]

ATTN: SUNDOG -

I've sent jpg's of the two .25's and earlier of the 30 HBC.

Have you gotten them?

The silence is deafening.

[Leftoverdj]

I also did a run of Lee C312-155-2R as 6 holers.

[Bret4207]

Ok, I'm bring this up front. Folks are asking it become a sticky and we start putting together a better listing. Photos and drawings woould be nice. Go to it guys.

[Ranch Dog]

This is something that an administrator or moderator might have to maintain. A thread that is stuck and closed with one post. That post being the list that is edited with updated buys.

[AnthonyB]

The drawing for the BD45CM should be here if I did this right. It sold 30 copies. Tony

[AnthonyB]

I have the drawing for the original BD45, but it is too large to post. I can send it to sundog or his representative if needed. Tony

[AnthonyB]

Never mind - sundog has both on CAstpics already. I got carried away in the picture posting effort and didn't look first! Tony

[Char-Gar]

here are some photos from my files. I don't know if you have them listed or now.

[Char-Gar]

Oh yes.. They are

311407 Modified
452423
Fat 30
Soup Can II

[Char-Gar]

Here is the "Fatter 30" same specs as "Fat 30" but nose is .306 to .310, body is .316 and a smaller .18 meplat.

[fiberoptik]

How about the 5mm/30 grain double for the 5mm Craig? I got me one, & THEN went out and bought me the rifle!

[Bret4207]

Moving this up the pages.

Guys- If for no other reason than sheer curiosity I strongly encourage all of you Honchos and Designers to record your GB moulds here. Having the designs and photos/specs in on place will cure a lot of the questions members have regarding what they have, what has been done, what worked and didn't. We have had some real dogs (the 177 Pammy Pellet) and some real winners (the Fat 30). Lets not lose what so many have worked do hard to design and build. Get a photo of your designs up here and record the designer, the specs and how it worked out. Also- do yourselves a favor and mark the mould somehow so you don't forget what the design is. It helps when you get old timers disease and just cain't remember stuff!

[TCLouis]

on the cast pics site.
I just want them in one place.
Now I have to go back and see what I have on hand, cast boolits from them and then MARK THEM with some identification that describes the boolit they cast!

I am so far behind casting I may have to use coated bullets to hunt this year!

I am outa everything useful to bag bambi and others.

Wait, . . . . I do have a bunch of 50 cal smokepole boolits.

[Bret4207]

I can't find any GB list on Castpics. Only a few selected ones there.

[TCLouis]

Until it is a reality and the boolit specs, Honcho and picture/drawing is posted for each GB mold!

[Four Fingers of Death]

I'm tired as I'm a fat old fella and have been swinging off my chainsaw all day, so I haven't got enough grunt to read all of the posts, but I got an excellent 6 Cav 120Gn 32-20 mould offa Willbird. A few of them made their way to Australia I believe.Mick.

[Ed Barrett]

On the 45 Paper Patch mold, that was mine. I think we put it out as the "ELBStJoeMO .45 Paper Patch. It casts at about 400 grains. I've been using it both as a Paper Patched bullet and as a .454 and .45 LC bullet. With Lil' Gun and H110 it seems like an effective Deer stopper. At about 1800 fps out of a rifle it's sort of a short 45-70 magnum.