Would Mr. Keith Approve?

[44MAG#1]

Would Mr Keith approve of this bullet?
It makes me happy.
PS These bullets are 44 caliber. I forgot to add that bit of information,

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[Winger Ed.]

Seems like his had a more of a cone/straight line shape from the tip to the first band,
but I doubt if he'd have any major problems with it.

[PositiveCaster]

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This is the bullet designed by Elmer for the .45 Colt - the one on the left is the original, the one on the right has modified grease grooves by Lyman. Note that both are less tapered than the OP’s bullet. No one knows what Elmer would think. Who really cares today? This is the 21st century after all....



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[elmacgyver0]

If it makes you happy that is all that counts.

Unless of course you are looking for fame and fortune.

[44MAG#1]

I forgot to note the bullets are 44 caliber.

[Bazoo]

The right bullet with peripheral frosting would be frowned upon.

Did you get your new copy of the original? Would you be kind enough to offer it's number for others.

[Kosh75287]

It doesn't look like it'd feed in a 1911A1, so Jeff Cooper would not approve. And since he is, to me, the "John the Baptist" of the shooting world, I'LL have trouble with it, too. Prove to me that it'll feed in a 1911A1, and we'll talk...
In a revolver, for shooting Javelina & such, I'll bet it's a DANDY bullet!

[405grain]

I sent Elmer an email to ask him what he thinks, but he hasn't answered back yet. :coffee:

[mdi]

From my uneducated 70+ year old eyes, I'd say those look pretty "original". One large square bottomed lube groove, large crimp groove, and slightly rounded nose. Frosting means nothing for performance (just the mold is running a bit on the hot side). So yes, I think Mr. Keith would shoot 'em...

Waiting for 405grain to share the answer to his email...

[44MAG#1]

I was talking about the bullet itself. They size as near perfect as they can get. Slightly frosty doesn't bother me one bit. I could have taken a paper towel and rubbed them to have shined them up for the photo but didn't.

[derek45]

looks right to me

[Shuz]

Based on what I see, those boolits look like some I have had excellent results with in several. 44mag revolvers and a few carbine s.

[Larry Gibson]

Keith would probably approve as facsimile of the bullet he designed. However, Keith did not have the advantage of the lubes we have today. That huge square bottom lube groove just isn't needed. The shallower round lube groove of the Lyman 429421 works just as well with half the lube.

[Three44s]

I am a big fan of the RCBS 250K. I do not know if Elmer would pass on that design because we can’t ask him. All I know is it’s “Keith” enough for me.

Three44s

[murf205]

Keith would probably approve as facsimile of the bullet he designed. However, Keith did not have the advantage of the lubes we have today. That huge square bottom lube groove just isn't needed. The shallower round lube groove of the Lyman 429421 works just as well with half the lube.
There has been MUCH talk made of the square bottom grease groove and it might have an advantage some how but for the life of me I cannot see it. Maybe it holds lube in the groove better but I doubt it. I use Carrnuba Red because of the hot climate where I live and I have used a ton of beeswax/alox with no problems with either. No matter, Elmer would love to see us using his boolit.

[Bazoo]

If found that that minor frosting gives an uneven driving band when sized. At least with my bullets. I either go all frosty or none.

But anyways. It is a fine lookin bullet.

[smithnframe]

At least the base isn't beveled!

[44MAG#1]

[QUOTE=Bazoo;4982814]If found that that minor frosting gives an uneven driving band when sized. At least with my bullets. I either go all frosty or none.

But anyways. It is a fine lookin bullet.[/QUOTE

Uneven sizing of drive bands can be caused by more than being frosty. I am sure you know this. Careless sizing can cause problems too.
After casting for many, many years I have learned that problems can rear its head in many ways.

[ascast]

I am indifferent.

[Ozark mike]

Elmer would probably tell ya to ditch the 44 and get a 500. who knows

[murf205]

Elmer would probably tell ya to ditch the 44 and get a 500. who knows

Or be lobbying S&W for a 600

[robg]

elmer would be happy were all still shooting and talking about his boolits.

[lar45]

Elmer would probably tell ya to ditch the 44 and get a 500. who knows

http://www.lsstuff.com/pics/500linebaugh/500l-05.jpg
Would Elmer approve?

[DonHowe]

Elmer Keith was a man of strong opinions. His opinions, though often disagreed with by contemporarys, were based on levels of experience few of us attain. Were (are) there other ways of getting things done? Sure there were and are but Mr Keith's methods worked for him and will still work.
Wwe ain't smarter simply because it's the 21st century.

One thing about Elmer, I'm pretty sure he would not try to win WWIII with nothing but a 1911 pistol.

[AlaskaMike]

I might be wrong, but I thought Elmer designed his .44 and .45 bullets with relatively large lube grooves because he designed them back when he was still shooting black powder and needed the lube volume. It's been quite a while since I read Elmer's books, so I could certainly be off base.

That crimp groove looks unique to me--nice and big, but with very little visible taper on the bottom of it.