311284 is authoritative!

[Blammer]

Unbelievable!

No tracking, no lingering death, no second shot needed.

Man this really puts the whammy on them!

226gr 311284 out of my 30-06 with 31gr of IMR 3031 at about 1850 fps.
WW alloy air cooled sized to .309 with gator checks
It's dead nuts accurate!

The first one bang flop!

The second one Bang flop!

The THIRD one ! BANG FLOP!

I finally blooded the -06 with cast.

It's a little loud, will have to remember ear plugs next time.

[Blammer]

Oh yea, here's a pic.

First was at 25 yds, second at 30 yds, and third at 25 yds.

https://i.imgur.com/bsaTVSZ.jpg

[missionary5155]

Well it is for sure you believe in ENOUGH gun ! Those tree barkers sure are fun !

[runfiverun]

i cant believe you didnt use the 8mm for those monsters.

[fatnhappy]

you'd get the same result on deer I'm sure, maybe not the instantaneous flop, but the same result.

[JeffinNZ]

That's very impressive but where did the bullets come down!!!???

[Larry Gibson]

Any expansion? Recover any bullets?

Larry Gibson

[NHlever]

Frank Marshall had good luck with that bullet by using a flat nose top punch in his lube sizer to put a flat meplat on his hunting bullets. Though things worked out well for you this time, you may want to consider that for those tough shots, or really large squirrels. Great story, and pictures though!!! Thanks so much for sharing. :-)

[Blammer]

all shots taken, the boolits landed directly in the dirt or directly into a treetrunk, and if it missed the tree trunk, it hit the mountain hillside about 20 yds behind it.

[PatMarlin]

DRT!!!

Purdy rifle. What is that.. 700?

[Nardoo]

Just lucky with three out of three kills with that little gun. Time to move up to .35 cal. Or even better 45 cal! Great post Blammer.

Nardoo

[EMC45]

I popped one with my Marlin Camp Carbine in 45ACP a while back. 230gr. Hydrashok. He's in the freezer.

[sundog]

That's what I was thinkin'. A 280 gr 3589 @2000 fps out of a 35 Whelen ought the be pure poison of them tree rats. Gotta remember to always take enough gun for what yer doin'...

[NHlever]

I've been out casting some boolits today, the Lyman 311316U, the old Ideal 311 8, and the Saeco 30 cal I80 FN. I feel so undergunned! I think I'll have to go back out, and fire up something just a little bigger. Those squirrels get pretty tough to survive our winters here.....

[clodhopper]

I like to use the whelen on ground squirrels. Even works when they are hibernating, just digs 'em right up.

[jack19512]

I feel so undergunned! I think I'll have to go back out, and fire up something just a little bigger.







That's where the 45/70 comes in handy! :mrgreen:

[dale2242]

Just goes to show. No such thing as overkill.---dale

[Win86]

What is proper top punch for the 311284? have the mold and .309 sizer, would like to cast for my Remington Rand 03A3.

Win86

[Hardcast416taylor]

Now you non-believers see why I carry my .416 Taylor with 350 gr. boolits when I go out to my barn! BANG, read again very loudly BANG, flop... 1 shot kill! [smilie=1: :roll: Robert

[OBXPilgrim]

Geez, Blammer

Whatca gonna do if you run into one of them big black bears out in the woods if ya only gots that pop gun?

[clodhopper]

Just give him one in the boiler room.

[madcaster]

Methinks you need to step up to a .375 H&H as a backup gun!Them that sqwirls are vishus![smilie=w::veryconfu:twisted:

[45&30-30]

Late reply on my part but I had to comment. That is funny, I'm still laughing, I love the way you set that story up.

[JW6108]

I would love to be able to use cast bullet loads for small game, but here in Georgia centerfire firearms are not legal for that use....air guns, rimfire, archery, muzzleloaders only.

I worked on a fish hatchery for several years that had an abundance of bullfrogs (considered non-game in GA). Each pond had a small wooden walkway that extended about 20 feet into the pond and rested on the drain structure. Frogs loved to sit in the shade under the walkway and were accustomed to folks working and driving around the ponds for one reason or another.

Frogs are primitive things and .22's that missed the brain would usually cause them to jump in and swim to the bottom where they were almost impossible to retrieve. I used a 2 1/2" Model 66 with .38 wadcutters to collect many a pair of frog legs; I could shoot left-handed out of the truck window, then hop out and dip up the frog. I also used a Charter Arms Bulldog in .44 Special with the Lee 214 grain SWC; they seldom even moved when one of those landed on them.

They used to laugh at me being overgunned for frogs. Maybe, but I enjoyed a lot of frog legs.

[45 2.1]

Frogs die very easily from handgun shot cartridges also, and they don't jump either.

[atr]

I would have been terrified to go after those critters with such a light load !!

[JW6108]

I would have been terrified to go after those critters with such a light load !!

Wounded ones are dangerous; they can hop you right up a tree.

[stillhunter]

Respectfully, I think you're under gunned. Around here we hunt with the mighty .22 long rifle and good glass. ..!!

[shdwlkr]

Blammer
I think you where a little under gunned there and maybe next time you should use a .505 gibbs so there isn't a chance they will get away. Seriously that is very impressive, me I want to use my 32-20 or if I can find someone to build it my .256 win mag. Yep I like those big calibers. I also have a 30-30, 375 winchester and 45-70 for serious work if needed. I am just looking at lead bullets for them as it seems more fun to shoot then brass jacketed bullets. Now if I can only find a cast bullet for my .270 bullet in 120 and 140 grain. The 140 grain is the max I can go with my 1in10 twist rifle according to the program I was using and I like that weight bullet anyway. Just might have to work up a drawing to send to Lee and get one each made.

[stillhunter]

I would humbly suggest that U try Lyman 311291 as you can get two for the same weight. They shoot superbly in my 03-A3. Up here in PA, we stalk and shoot them with a .22 and good glass.

[oldoak2000]

I think if you step up to a 600gr .50 BMG,
you 'might' get a little more range than the 25 - 30 yards you're getting with that setup. . . . .:mrgreen:


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[jlchucker]

Why not a .458 Winchester Magnum? I understand that the 105mm self-propelled gun is deadly on deer.

[Slow Elk 45/70]

Ya gotta use nuff gun on them dangorus critters or ya mite get hurt. My 45/70 stops dem attack lim rats ever time, no lie. I'm afeared ya are way under gunned with that 06. :redneck: :cbpour: :Fire:

[WickedGoodOutdoors]

I was just talking with my boy about shooting squirrels with his Henry .22 We have way too many of them around here. There is no closed season on Red Squirrels and we have lots of them.


A 30-06 may be a bit much but is it possible to download it to shoot a paper patched very light boolit. Maybe a hollow core tube bullet with closed base that would fragnment upon impact.

Something for you moldmakers to work on.

The idea is that the bullet would break up upon hitting a branch leaves, grass so that its downrange distance would be limited.

Kind of along the lines of a Flu-Flu Fletching on an arrow used for flying birds.

A lead hollow core ultra light wieght bullet with baggy wrinkle on it to fly strainght with limited distance.! for close range fun.

The Raggy Boolit!

Work on it!

http://tradgang.com/flu-flu/bfletch.jpg

[Bret4207]

I used the 311316 out of a 32-20 rifle at 1400+ fps. Way too much for squirrels! I hope to try the pointed 311359.

[Blammer]

a blast from the past.

[Pb4me]

Blammer:

It was good to see a BDL DM because I don't see many of them in use. Ours is in .270 and stacks them using a very old Lyman mould. Yours looks great.

[JDL]

I read this thread a couple of weeks ago while researching 311284 for deer.:bigsmyl2:

[PatMarlin]

My all time favorite mold for the 30'06... for sure.

Here's a photo from Ben Hays. Nuff said on a cast performer? You Bet..! :mrgreen:

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[fatnhappy]

I sent Ben a box with at least 500 printed targets. He’s still using paper plates.

I find that quite humorous.

[PatMarlin]

That's an old photo.

Hard to beat paper plates... lol







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[PatMarlin]

I have got beast of a 1903 30'06 Ben finished and bedded the stock on. The whole rifle is custom done by trades with my customers, and getting the scope mounts done this week I hope. Have not fired it yet. Been 4 years in the waiting now.. haha!

Can't wait to get it to the range.

https://www.patmarlins.com/1903-springfield-project-from-action-to-cast-shooting-bench-heavyweight/

Ben's gunsmith that built the rifle that shot the groups in that target are the same one that's done mine.

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[Oklahoma Rebel]

that's a B-A-UTIFUL rifle! bet you'll have some fun with that one!

[PatMarlin]

Thanks OR, it really is. Special to me as my dad who recently passed gave me the high serial number 1903 action years ago with a Lyman 48 on it.

One of my customers refinished the action, another traded for that new heavy Lija barrel, Ben bedded and finished the stock, and machine work put together by a master gunsmith who now has Parkinson's and can't work any longer. 4 years in the making.

Every piece I own has a story, and this one is awesome.

[fatnhappy]

What are you waiting for Pat? Do I need to send you a bunch of paper plates?

[fatnhappy]

A blast from the past