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docone31
11-17-2008, 06:37 PM
My son might be getting an open top. Has anyone any experience with the .45 Scofield loads?
I want to help him get into casting.

shooter93
11-17-2008, 08:54 PM
Do you mean an Open Top Colt clone or a Schofield revolver. I do shoot both but the open tops are 44 special and the 45 schofield is in the new Smith Schofields. Shooting the 44 with 250 cast keiths and the 45 with 255 cast keiths 6.5 grains of Unique works well. If you 45 is on an open top frame I'd start a bit lower just to be sure.

docone31
11-17-2008, 10:25 PM
I have to change that to 1858 Remington conversion. He is making it in 45LC.
Anyone have a good load for that rig?
I have finally gotten him into old school. I hope he enjoys it, and learns a lot from it.
Perhaps a smoke pole next.

StrawHat
11-18-2008, 01:00 PM
For the Remington, I would stay with black powder and a round ball. Regardless of what he can chamber, the original gun was designed for powder and ball and likely will give better results with them.

He might try the collar button bullet or the Lyman 450229 bullet. Both are about the weight of round balls but conical in shape.

When I loaded the 45 S&W I had the best luck with black powder.

There is also a new cartridge case available, the 45 Special

http://www.cowboy45special.com/cowboy45brass.html

which is recommended by Kirst for use in their cylinders.

The 45 Special is the length of a 45 ACP but has the rim of the 45 LC.

KCSO
11-18-2008, 01:10 PM
I have loaded a bunch of 45 Schofield rounds for an 1872 Open top. My favorite load is 25 grains of FFg and a 230 grain Saeco bullet lubed with beeswax and bear oil. For plinking in smokless I like 4.0 of Bullseye. Trail Boss is another good choice and 5.0 grains is a nice load. The factoory Cimarron conversion 1858 is good for any load suiitable for a SAA old style revolver but I would stick with either Trail Boss or B/P and a 200 to 250 gran bullet. If the conversion is on a percussion gun you really need to measure the twist as some of the cheaper ones used a 1-48 twist barrel and they will be pretty worthless for shoooting a heavy bullet. You need a 1-22 or sharper twist for 230 or above and I would prefer a 1-16 twist.

Hardcast416taylor
11-21-2008, 04:30 PM
A friend of mine did the cylinder swap conversion on his Ruger Old model army. He had a devil of a time getting the point of impact down to the point of aim. He finally wound up making a taller front sight and going to the 270 gr. RCBS boolit, don`t know his load - he said it was middle manual load of a Hodgon powder. So it may not be just the cheap imports that give twist problems. I did a conversion on my Lyman imported 1858 Rem. model, got it in late 60`s. I use either a 185 gr. semi-wadcutter or a 200 gr. semi wadcutter backed by Red Dot low manual load. Shoots a bit high, but liveable. :Fire: :castmine: