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OldBearHair
07-07-2019, 09:34 PM
I hope this is the right place to post this... Well this guy seems to be having all the fun on Independence Day week.


https://youtu.be/PbmhNsAhN8s

My son sent this to me and I just had to share with you guys. Enjoy.

RED BEAR
07-07-2019, 09:38 PM
Can't watch without signing in to google.
I have nothing to do with google facebook twitter or any of the rest.
I am sure they still track me and know everything about me. But i ain't helping.

TheOutlawKid
07-07-2019, 11:23 PM
Amen to that RED BEAR! :drinks:

Tracy
07-07-2019, 11:26 PM
Awesome! I watched a few more of his videos. I love black powder cannons!

nueces5
07-07-2019, 11:48 PM
He looks like he gave the poor pig in his belly, and it seems he suffered a lot until he finished it off with a glock.
I think it's the sum of things that I do not want to do when I go hunting

rodwha
07-08-2019, 01:48 AM
Don’t deal much with Google either, but reading how horrific it was for the pig isn’t cool. Without having watched the video it seems there wasn’t anything more than playing with a cannon in an inappropriate manor to take down a pig.

Full disclosure: I love hunting and eating what I take. I don’t care for just shooting things to do so and injuring them and not attempting to kill them outright.

rfd
07-08-2019, 06:44 AM
hunting with a cannon is dumb.

that feller in the vid is flat out creepy.

having worked on the "internet" before it was the internet, most folks don't have a clue what it's really all about. forget about worries over google, that's nothing compared to just being on the internet with a browser and/or opening emails you shouldn't. learn how best to TRY to secure whatever device you use to access the internet.

Dan Cash
07-08-2019, 07:21 AM
This sure made the mullahs of hunting morals surface.

rfd
07-08-2019, 07:50 AM
This sure made the mullahs of hunting morals surface.

to each their own concept of ethical morality and moronic behaviour. ymmv.

toot
07-08-2019, 08:16 AM
can't see it unless i sign in on GOOGLE, won't do it. no use for the site.

DougGuy
07-08-2019, 08:37 AM
Just cause you can, don't mean you should.

I gotta side with those calling this dude out on ethics, that is a cruel and unusual way of killing game even if it's a pestilence animal. A head shot with a cannon? Quick kill? Not a problem but gut shooting an animal is not ethical hunting nor is it a humane way to take an animal.

rfd
07-08-2019, 08:39 AM
can't see it unless i sign in on GOOGLE, won't do it. no use for the site.

you DO NOT need to "sign on" to google to see a youtube video.

brewer12345
07-08-2019, 10:11 AM
Just cause you can, don't mean you should.

I gotta side with those calling this dude out on ethics, that is a cruel and unusual way of killing game even if it's a pestilence animal. A head shot with a cannon? Quick kill? Not a problem but gut shooting an animal is not ethical hunting nor is it a humane way to take an animal.

I didn't get the impression that he was trying for a gut shot. Nobody knows but him.

Would I do this? Definitely not, as I don't fool with cannons and probably never will. I certainly would not be posting videos online (heck, I don't even post static pictures of my kills any more). I have, however, shot pigs under a feeder with a rifle. My shot placement was better and the pigs did not go as far, but from what I saw he took a reasonable shot at a stationary animal and it went less than 100 yards after the shot. Sound like other hunters you commonly read about on the forum?

Texas by God
07-08-2019, 01:17 PM
I didn't get the impression that he was trying for a gut shot. Nobody knows but him.

Would I do this? Definitely not, as I don't fool with cannons and probably never will. I certainly would not be posting videos online (heck, I don't even post static pictures of my kills any more). I have, however, shot pigs under a feeder with a rifle. My shot placement was better and the pigs did not go as far, but from what I saw he took a reasonable shot at a stationary animal and it went less than 100 yards after the shot. Sound like other hunters you commonly read about on the forum?Whoever says they never made a bad shot on game is either lying or hasn't hunted much. Yes, he made a bad shot. But he fought through the thick brush and recovered the varmint just like it was a tasty deer. Pigs are not game animals here. They are a pestilence as said above.

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Buzzard II
07-08-2019, 04:47 PM
[QUOTE=toot;4682225]can't see it unless i sign in on GOOGLE, won't do it. no use for the site.[/QU


If it says Google, I don.t want any part of it

Good Cheer
07-08-2019, 07:46 PM
It said I had to sign in to view the video so I didn't get to watch it.
Was the pig nekkid or somethin'?

rfd
07-08-2019, 07:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbmhNsAhN8s

Winger Ed.
07-08-2019, 07:58 PM
It ain't what I'd use for hunting wild hogs, and I wouldn't hunt them with a cap & ball muzzle loader either.
But others have done far worse as far as shot placement goes.

megasupermagnum
07-08-2019, 08:19 PM
I know people who couldn't make a better shot if you gave them the most accurate rifle in the world. I can't think of much better for an accidental gut shot than a 1 1/2" diameter ball. It seems odd that a bunch of muzzleloader shooters are arguing over the ethical nature of a muzzleloader mounted on wheels.:kidding:

Edward
07-08-2019, 08:55 PM
Not my way of hunting but I sure admire his style of 4th of July fireworks ,the pork chops are a bonus ! /Ed

indian joe
07-09-2019, 08:12 AM
I know people who couldn't make a better shot if you gave them the most accurate rifle in the world. I can't think of much better for an accidental gut shot than a 1 1/2" diameter ball. It seems odd that a bunch of muzzleloader shooters are arguing over the ethical nature of a muzzleloader mounted on wheels.:kidding:

Its a feral pig!! they are about as despicable a critter as a fourlegged animal can get - If you broke yr ankle in a gopher hole that sod would eat you alive and not bat an eyelid - he followed up and put it down clean - yeah not ideal but ..................

Buzzard II
07-09-2019, 08:39 AM
Use grape shot in that cannon and get more! Feral pigs only deserve the lead pill. They are destructive and not even native to this country.

RED BEAR
07-09-2019, 12:56 PM
I don't hunt but have nothing against those who do. I think it is very unethical to make any animal suffer. You should kill it as quick and as clean as possible. I have no problem killing them off but that doesn't mean make them suffer. Horses are not native either should all of them be killed off to?
And i know that pigs are destructive and all that . But shooting it with a canon while filming is just a stunt that never should have happened.

Edward
07-09-2019, 01:13 PM
I don't hunt but have nothing against those who do. I think it is very unethical to make any animal suffer. You should kill it as quick and as clean as possible. I have no problem killing them off but that doesn't mean make them suffer. Horses are not native either should all of them be killed off to?
And i know that pigs are destructive and all that . But shooting it with a canon while filming is just a stunt that never should have happened.
Only problem is the gore did not need to be shown ,but he hunts and that ain"t bad . I"ve seen poorly hit pigs with my front stuffers/bows ect and thou you will never see them on youtube it doesn"t mean it didn"t happen (RARE EVENT )but I hunt a lot and 60 yrs stuff happens ! The guy did justice to the pig ,followed/killed it /retrieved it .His method isn"t mine but the shot was good ,like nobody ever had a live critter move as you shot (HA) And he had a great attitude doing the hunt start to
Finish/Ed

Good Cheer
07-09-2019, 06:59 PM
Grape shot, chain shot, bar shot, buck shot... does anybody make hog shot?

nueces5
07-09-2019, 09:26 PM
I don't hunt but have nothing against those who do. I think it is very unethical to make any animal suffer. You should kill it as quick and as clean as possible. I have no problem killing them off but that doesn't mean make them suffer. Horses are not native either should all of them be killed off to?
And i know that pigs are destructive and all that . But shooting it with a canon while filming is just a stunt that never should have happened.

+1
I very much agree with the way of thinking.
There is nothing wrong with saving suffering. Probably a well-placed shot with that cannon is a quick and clean death. But if you can not be sure to put the shot safely in a vital area, you'd better use it to shoot the paper.

rodwha
07-09-2019, 09:30 PM
I was actually surprised (after the video was posted for those of us who won’t sign in) that his cannon seemed quite accurate. However any firearm where you duck before you pull the trigger isn’t something you should use to hunt with, and we see that with a gut shot hog.

I have no real soft spot for hogs, but they deserve a quick kill, and a weapon that you can’t do it with shouldn’t be used.

I loved his enthusiasm, regardless, and even though I may disagree with his method here I can certainly agree with his tenacity to find it and ensure it was taken.

OldBearHair
07-09-2019, 10:23 PM
I agree that if you should kill an animal, it should be a fast humane shot and use all the ethics at your disposal. When I first saw the video I was thinking that the muzzle loaders would be glad to see how this guy uses blackpowder. As a hunter we need to do everything possible to avoid wounding an animal with a careless shot. I think that if the guy was too afraid to be looking in the crosshairs making sure of the shot, he shouldn't have taken it. Anyway, I posted it just because it showed an interesting way burn a lot of blackpowder.

Eddie2002
07-09-2019, 10:46 PM
I was hoping to see a good shoulder shot with that cannon, something you could see light through. I've hunted hogs and even been charged by one which was wounded so know the virtue of a clean kill. At least he trailed it down and finished it. They are a major pest here in Florida and most of the deep south.

rodwha
07-10-2019, 01:56 AM
When I saw the accuracy potential on the jug of water I began to second guess my judgement of using a cannon. It’s clearly there, and more than I expected. But on a live animal if you can’t have some sort of follow through I don’t think you should be using it, though grape shot would be a bit different.

I’ve not had to track a wounded hog but know they can be quite nasty so I give kudos to not just leaving it to die in some brush. I would have been a bit puckered, but then again I have a single action... It has plenty of thump but is far from quick.

I’m a bit curious why he felt the need to duck.

And actually I’m a bit curious about his cannon. Pretty cool.

rfd
07-11-2019, 05:42 AM
using a cannon to kill any critter is just flat out dumb and unethical. i've killed plenty of pigs - with a longbow - but i'm in as best control of my weapon as i can be for both holding its draw weight and aiming at the moment of the shaft's release. if i wasn't in a goodly measure of control of the shot, i wouldn't hunt with a longbow, period. i'd give that cannon shooter kudos if he shouldered it for aiming, but a cannon is a howitzer is a mortar, and there is no fine aiming at the instant it's triggered on game that can and will move, to make sure the projectile is at least reasonably accurate. love that li'l cannon, but strongly condemn how it was used. that vid is just more cannon fodder for the PETA whackos, and don't think that they don't troll for that kinda ammunition. that feller just shot all us hunters in the proverbial foot. stupid is as stupid does.

owejia
07-11-2019, 07:42 AM
Cannons were invented to kill and destroy humans. We still use them for that purpose. So which is worse killing humans or hogs?

GregLaROCHE
07-11-2019, 07:57 AM
It would have been better and more interesting, if it was a shoulder shot with a lead ball.

If you haven’t experienced the damage they do, it may be hard to hate them as an enemy, but to a lot of farmers, it’s war!

rfd
07-11-2019, 08:04 AM
Cannons were invented to kill and destroy humans. We still use them for that purpose. So which is worse killing humans or hogs?

you've got to be joking, but clearly you aren't.

rfd
07-11-2019, 08:08 AM
It would have been better and more interesting, if it was a shoulder shot with a lead ball.

If you haven’t experienced the damage they do, it may be hard to hate them as an enemy, but to a lot of farmers, it’s war!

feral hogs are a major epidemic in the USA, no question. and it's getting worse every year. i have no problem killin' hogs, my favorite game to hunt - and eat.

rodwha
07-11-2019, 09:09 AM
It would have been better and more interesting, if it was a shoulder shot with a lead ball.

If you haven’t experienced the damage they do, it may be hard to hate them as an enemy, but to a lot of farmers, it’s war!

Good grief!

GregLaROCHE
07-11-2019, 09:47 AM
I love eating them too. The most objectionable part in the video, for me was when he said he was just going to drag it off and leave it. I can understand, if he already has a lot of meat, too much can be too much. My wife is always complaining, when am I going to get more pig out of the freezer, so she can have some more room in it?

rodwha
07-11-2019, 01:56 PM
I love eating them too. The most objectionable part in the video, for me was when he said he was just going to drag it off and leave it. I can understand, if he already has a lot of meat, too much can be too much. My wife is always complaining, when am I going to get more pig out of the freezer, so she can have some more room in it?

Oops! I quoted the wrong post earlier. Sorry.

rodwha
07-11-2019, 01:57 PM
Cannons were invented to kill and destroy humans. We still use them for that purpose. So which is worse killing humans or hogs?


Good grief!

RED BEAR
07-11-2019, 02:58 PM
Cannons were invented to kill and destroy humans. We still use them for that purpose. So which is worse killing humans or hogs?

I really hate to say this and hope you don't take offense but that is one of the dumbest analogy i have heard in a while. I have no love of hogs and have no problem with trying to eradicate them. But what this guy did was a stunt so he could film it and put it on youtube. If you can't kill an animal quickly and humanely you have no business trying.

Good Cheer
07-11-2019, 04:33 PM
Contact detonators aren't legal for hunting anything but people so maybe he should have used grape shot, chain shot or bar shot. But then I ask myself about what I thought when my backyard got roto-tilled by hogs...

Would I have used solid shot? Maybe that depends on how many I could get lined up.

1911sw45
07-11-2019, 04:48 PM
What about all the poisoning they do to eradicate hogs. It’s a more slow painful death. But that’s ok because the states do it.

RED BEAR
07-11-2019, 08:39 PM
I know that they cause a lot of damage. And i am sure i can guess what i would have thought if they tore up my yard. And no i don't think all that much of poisoning them. Maybe there should be a bounty on them? I do realize that not ever kill is clean but that is what one should strive for. As i said before this was a stunt plain and simple for youtube. As such i for one think it was disgraceful. I quit hunting because i don't particularly like wild game ( sorry ) and i will not kill an animal i do not intend to eat. When i did hunt i tried my best to end the animal as quickly as possible.

megasupermagnum
07-11-2019, 10:24 PM
Where were you guys when they posted the latest video of a guy annihilating herds of pigs and some coyote with a slug gun from a helicopter? That post had nothing but good remarks. The guy gut shot half of them.

rodwha
07-11-2019, 11:32 PM
Where were you guys when they posted the latest video of a guy annihilating herds of pigs and some coyote with a slug gun from a helicopter? That post had nothing but good remarks. The guy gut shot half of them.

Never saw it or I would have complained all the same.

Texas by God
07-11-2019, 11:55 PM
I want to mount a Hi-point pistol ( with remote trigger) on a drone and do some strafing fire on them. I’m sort of kidding. Sort of.

GregLaROCHE
07-12-2019, 12:25 AM
There are some interesting videos about a professional company, who sets up a pen with a feeder and remote camera. When all get used to going in to eat, he triggers the closing of the trap by cellphone. Next day they dispatched them humanly. That’s probably the best way, but somebody has to pay for it and I bet it’s not cheap.

dondiego
07-12-2019, 12:38 PM
Grape shot has been mentioned as a substitute..........that is a sure way to gut shoot the whole bunch!

owejia
07-12-2019, 01:08 PM
Glad everyone knows satire when they read it!!!!! It's a pig and Texas is at war with them. It's not called hunting it called extermination. Not meant to be ethical or humanly, just exterminate them. My wife is from Texas, and we have friends and family there, so I do know about the hog problem in Texas. We have a growing hog problem in Tn. now, but not as bad as Texas.

OldBearHair
07-12-2019, 02:48 PM
My hunting partner bow killed a hog that was still wearing some buckshot in different non-vital parts. That could mean that the shot was taken at too long a distance. I was mortified to find the coyote still alive. I had been plowing a field when a coyote came ambling along the raised concrete irrigation ditch, checking the gopher holes. Stopped the tractor at the end of the row and waited with the Remington .222 Rem. loaded with 50 grain bullet @ 3400 fps. Took the shot at around 70 yards and down it went.. When finishing up the field a fellow worker came along and we went over to look at the coyote. After that, I have learned to follow up on the shot.

arcticap
07-13-2019, 05:20 PM
Thanks for posting the video.
I respect that the people of Texas made the activity legal.
I haven't watched his other videos, but I doubt that a hunter would go out and buy a cannon simply for a youtube stunt.
He seemed to be enjoying himself and his level of excitement and adrenaline seemed to be genuine.
Folks have the right to criticize him just as he has the right to enjoy the activity.
The hunt seemed to be a fair chase and the hunter also appears to be a nice guy.
The hog certainly had a better chance to survive in the wild than if it were in a slaughter house.
But what a way to go.

Buzzard II
07-13-2019, 06:27 PM
Grape shot has been mentioned as a substitute..........that is a sure way to gut shoot the whole bunch!

I guess you never heard of tongue in cheek humor! If anyone took what I wrote as anything but humor, the lights are on but you're not home.

RED BEAR
07-13-2019, 08:09 PM
Thanks for posting the video.
I respect that the people of Texas made the activity legal.
I haven't watched his other videos, but I doubt that a hunter would go out and buy a cannon simply for a youtube stunt.
He seemed to be enjoying himself and his level of excitement and adrenaline seemed to be genuine.
Folks have the right to criticize him just as he has the right to enjoy the activity.
The hunt seemed to be a fair chase and the hunter also appears to be a nice guy.
The hog certainly had a better chance to survive in the wild than if it were in a slaughter house.
But what a way to go.

Well you better think again. I never realized that they get paid for the views they get. But he probably bought the cannon for the cannon. But shooting a pig with it was a stunt plain and simple. My son showed me where some fool made several million dollars playing a video game and people would watch him on u tube. The video would have been pretty neat with just the cannon i think. It was killing a pig with it that jumped up the shock factor. If he was worried about eradication then get a rifle and do it quickly and humanely.

rfd
07-13-2019, 10:12 PM
Well you better think again. I never realized that they get paid for the views they get. But he probably bought the cannon for the cannon. But shooting a pig with it was a stunt plain and simple. My son showed me where some fool made several million dollars playing a video game and people would watch him on u tube. The video would have been pretty neat with just the cannon i think. It was killing a pig with it that jumped up the shock factor. If he was worried about eradication then get a rifle and do it quickly and humanely.

exactly. vids like this pig/cannon one do real hunting an immense disservice in the eyes of the non-hunting public.

we hunters need to think smart, not dumb, or we'll be extinct. think not? then yer living in a bubble and not experiencing the reality of what's happening in the USA today, as our constitutional rights and freedoms are pecked away by the political whacko crows.

arcticap
07-13-2019, 11:12 PM
What does the non-hunting public in 49 other states have to do with what they choose to do in Texas, nor should anyone else be concerned.
In Vermont they've allow shooting pickerel [fish] with rifles for generations and does anyone think that it has affected their hunting rights in their own state one bit?
Of course not because the biologists and legislators who get together to make the laws don't care what the people in other states or non-hunters think.
Half the citizens in this country don't even vote.
They may complain and make noise but their impact is not a very important piece of the big picture.
Texans care about Texas more than anyone else in the country.
And state legislative leadership doesn't usually ever put anti-hunters on committees that regulate hunting lest they rile up the hunting rights advocate groups themselves which they are largely there to serve.
Who cares what the vegetarians think?
It doesn't amount to a hill of beans [pun intended].
The sky is not falling....and hunting rights will not be affected in any state by what they do in Texas.
Texas is sovereign and a hog is just another name for a pig.
The last time PETA tried to protest a special deer hunt in my state, a hunter anti-harrassment law was passed prohibiting interference with legal hunting activity or face jail time.
If the anti's don't like it then let them face the music via the long arm of the law.
And most people already know what's in the can of dog or cat food when they open one up to feed their pet.

RED BEAR
07-13-2019, 11:38 PM
What does the non-hunting public in 49 other states have to do with what they choose to do in Texas, nor should anyone else be concerned.
In Vermont they've allow pickerel shooting [fish] for generations and does anyone think that it has affected their hunting rights?
I don't think so because the biologists and legislators who get together to make the laws don't care what the people in other states or non-hunters think.
Half the citizens in this country don't even vote.
They may complain and make noise but their impact is not a very important piece of the big picture.
Texans care about Texas more than anyone else in the country.
Who cares what the vegetarians think.
It doesn't amount to a hill of beans [pun intended].
The sky is not falling....and hunting rights will not be affected in any state by what they do in Texas.
Texas is sovereign and hogs are hogs.
Most people know what's in the can of dog or cat food that they open one up to feed their pet.

Well the non hunting public is the majority. And if you think that they couldnt ban it well you better think again. There is no right to hunt in the us constitution. I don't hunt but i do know the benefits that hunters do . And have absolutely no problem with hunters. I truely believe that with the help of the media our rights are temporary just look at the trend if you had told anyone in the sixties that we would have the restrictions on guns that we have today they would though you were crazy. The liberals just keep chipping away. Now you have politicians now advocating for confiscation. I doubt it will happen in my lifetime but i think it will happen. Gun owners are to easily divided. When they passed the assault weapons ban i had a lot of friends saying i don't care they aren't after my shotgun or bolt rifle. I tried to explain that if they stood by and let them take my guns then why would i care when the government came for there's. All i heard was oh that will never happen. The same way i heard on this forum about bump stocks. Oh they are worthless or i don't own one. I don't own one either but it sets a dangerous example when you can buy a legal product and have a bureaucrat with a pen make it illegal. Stupid stunts like this help no one.

rfd
07-14-2019, 06:30 AM
y'all need to realize that since the mid 20th century hunting in the USA has been under attack. and clearly it's gotten worse as the decades fly by. we fought for our freedom from the brits - do we really want to end up like the brits of today, with severe restrictions on guns and hunting? this is not radical thinking at all, it's the reality of the 21st century in the USA.

wake up American sportsmen, hunters, and weapons users - this ain't the 1950's where i went to high school with my cased rifle team .22 on the school bus or travelled with it on any urban public transportation. those who would restrict and deny us our constitutional rights are in legion today. this isn't a state thing, it's a national epidemic and why we're in the middle of a very serious cold civil war of ideologies. blowing up a pig with a cannon just adds fuel to the PETA fires. if you can't see that truth, i'm sorry for y'all.

Edward
07-14-2019, 07:42 AM
Well the non hunting public is the majority. And if you think that they couldnt ban it well you better think again. There is no right to hunt in the us constitution. I don't hunt but i do know the benefits that hunters do . And have absolutely no problem with hunters. I truely believe that with the help of the media our rights are temporary just look at the trend if you had told anyone in the sixties that we would have the restrictions on guns that we have today they would though you were crazy. The liberals just keep chipping away. Now you have politicians now advocating for confiscation. I doubt it will happen in my lifetime but i think it will happen. Gun owners are to easily divided. When they passed the assault weapons ban i had a lot of friends saying i don't care they aren't after my shotgun or bolt rifle. I tried to explain that if they stood by and let them take my guns then why would i care when the government came for there's. All i heard was oh that will never happen. The same way i heard on this forum about bump stocks. Oh they are worthless or i don't own one. I don't own one either but it sets a dangerous example when you can buy a legal product and have a bureaucrat with a pen make it illegal. Stupid stunts like this help no one.

Was done with this topic BUT , then I saw gun owners are easily divided and isn"t that exactly what this topic on this forum doing? A perfect illustration of this quote and as previously stated ,No I don"t hunt with cannons how ever I do shoot steel with a 74 C Sharps (that count ?) Ed

RED BEAR
07-14-2019, 11:35 AM
Was done with this topic BUT , then I saw gun owners are easily divided and isn"t that exactly what this topic on this forum doing? A perfect illustration of this quote and as previously stated ,No I don"t hunt with cannons how ever I do shoot steel with a 74 C Sharps (that count ?) Ed

Yes i would agree that it does. Some think that they can't lose there hunting privileges and they are privileges at least on national level. And federal law overrules state law. I can imagine what the nonhunting public thinks when they see something like this. It is very easy for them to use this type of stunt against hunters portraying them as a bunch of blood thirsty savages. And if anyone thinks that the media is going to tell the truth about how hunting is necessary for the good of the animal. As it helps keep the population in check in line with available resources. The media will look for anything that will gun owners look bad.
Oh by the way your sharpes counts in my book.

rfd
07-14-2019, 04:08 PM
benny said it best in the 18th century, but i'll rephrase it a bit to apply to the 21st century ...

https://i.imgur.com/wycY0xO.jpg

RED BEAR
07-14-2019, 04:25 PM
benny said it best in the 18th century, but i'll rephrase it a bit to apply to the 21st century ...

https://i.imgur.com/wycY0xO.jpg

I agree whole heartedly. I am a member of the don't give an inch crowd. I am not willing to accept any restrictions on a constitutional right. But i realize not all gun owners see it that way.

Eddie Southgate
07-14-2019, 04:37 PM
Precaution cap cannon ??? Needs a spelling lesson as well as better aim .

indian joe
07-14-2019, 06:34 PM
y'all need to realize that since the mid 20th century hunting in the USA has been under attack. and clearly it's gotten worse as the decades fly by. we fought for our freedom from the brits - do we really want to end up like the brits of today, with severe restrictions on guns and hunting? this is not radical thinking at all, it's the reality of the 21st century in the USA.

wake up American sportsmen, hunters, and weapons users - this ain't the 1950's where i went to high school with my cased rifle team .22 on the school bus or travelled with it on any urban public transportation. those who would restrict and deny us our constitutional rights are in legion today. this isn't a state thing, it's a national epidemic and why we're in the middle of a very serious cold civil war of ideologies. blowing up a pig with a cannon just adds fuel to the PETA fires. if you can't see that truth, i'm sorry for y'all.

From one of those expat Brits
The PETA fire is already raging ....and the people waging this war against legitimate gun ownership are absolutely impervious to sensible rational argument, they have set their course and nothing will deter them from it - they lie, cheat, manipulate facts - just like the leftist democrats in your country there is no room in their thinking for rational argument, for decency, or honest treatment of those opposing them.

That said I am apalled at the stupidity of the retail firearms industry in my country and a large group of firearms owners for the short sighted choices they make. The Wannabe army dude attitude that manifests in lookalike war guns presented as sporting firearms "tactical bulls%!te" picaNINNY rails - skeleton splastic stocks - top to bottom camo gear - the whole ten yards of it - anybody with half a brain knows this is inviting trouble from the middle ground - people who ordinarily would not care but are easily influenced in their vote becquse they are not shooters - easy meat for the PETA mob

T_McD
07-14-2019, 06:49 PM
I think everyone can see it’s a bit on the tacky side, but we seem to disagree on whether that’s good or bad.

And why hunting got brought up, I don’t understand. This is not hunting, would you care if he aimed the cannon at prairie dogs? This is a guy that got bored of exterminating hogs, and decided to see what a cannon would do! And lots of people watched to see what happened.

indian joe
07-14-2019, 07:18 PM
I think everyone can see it’s a bit on the tacky side, but we seem to disagree on whether that’s good or bad.

And why hunting got brought up, I don’t understand. This is not hunting, would you care if he aimed the cannon at prairie dogs? This is a guy that got bored of exterminating hogs, and decided to see what a cannon would do! And lots of people watched to see what happened.

Friend of mine out in the far west had a pig trap setup half a mile from his house - we were visiting for some hunting - he asked me to go by the trap and empty it - I asked where would I put the bodies - no no just shoot the mongrels - leave em in there - their friends will come and eat em - saves us getting more bait! ..... feral hogs = despicable animals!!