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thumbs
07-07-2019, 05:20 PM
Can anyone send me in the right direction to get some load information for loading cast bullets for the 300 blackout?
I will be loading powder coated 155gr bullets. I have looking in my four load books and on the Hodgdon reloading site but can't find anything for cast. I looked in the Lyman Cast load book but it doesn't show anything for the 300 blk.
Not necessarily asking for load data but where can I find it? I can find plenty for jacketed bullets but not for cast.

thanks for the help

Conditor22
07-07-2019, 06:15 PM
type "300 blackout cast load data" into the search box on the top right of the page

Texas by God
07-07-2019, 06:38 PM
Starting loads for 150 gr jacketed will be fine for your 155 pc boolits. About 17-1800 FPS. That’s what I did. My 7.62x39 with its 1-10” twist shoots better than my .300BO with its 1-7” twist but YMMV. AA1680 or H110/W296 are good powders.

thumbs
07-07-2019, 07:21 PM
Thanks guys Good info straight to the point no **. Doesn't happen often. I appreciate it. I have W296. I heard somewhere that 4227 was good but never got any numbers. Did you size your 300BO to .309?

Thanks I type it in and see what I get.

Lloyd Smale
07-08-2019, 07:57 AM
I size my bo to 309 casted out of a hard alloy (probably 20+) and use a gas check. Best powder for me so far is 110 but wc 297 and wc820 and 4227 have all worked well. My buddy uses nothing but 1680 but about half of his are subsonic and I don't fool with subsonic. cant give you data though because I found the rcbs 130 spitzer gas check and haven't looked back.

jmort
07-08-2019, 09:08 AM
I do not have cast data, but this publushed data should get you started.
I use 1680

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.300 Whisper / .300 AAC Blackout / .300 Blackout (Using 150/155 GR Hornady Bullets)

Warning! Notes: This data was shot by Brian Pearce, Wolfe Publishing Company. Gun: Advanced Armament Corporation AR-15; barrel length: 16 inches; case: Remington; primer: Winchester Small Rifle; bullet diameter: .308"; bullets: 150 GR Hornady GMX, IB, SST, FMJ-BT, RN, BTSP & SP COAL: 2.220" or 155 GR Hornady A-Max COAL: 2.220"; maximum COAL: 2.260"; maximum case length: 1.368"; trim to length: 1.358". Note: 155 GR bullets can be used for all 150 GR data listed.
IMPORTANT: Please view the special notes by clicking here

Love the 300 Blackout Reloading Data. Check out more blackout data
Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data.
Wt. Bullet Powder Manufacturer Powder Charge Velocity (FPS)
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-9 10.9 1412
Remarks:
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-9 12.0 1549
Remarks:
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-9 13.1 1686
Remarks:
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-9 14.2 1824
Remarks: maximum load
150 Hornady Alliant 2400 10.8 1439
Remarks:
150 Hornady Alliant 2400 12.0 1565
Remarks:
150 Hornady Alliant 2400 13.2 1691
Remarks: maximum load
150 Hornady Vihtavuori VV-N110 11.3 1522
Remarks:
150 Hornady Vihtavuori VV-N110 12.5 1644
Remarks:
150 Hornady Vihtavuori VV-N110 13.8 1766
Remarks: maximum load
150 Hornady Hodgdon Lil'Gun 11.8 1526
Remarks:
150 Hornady Hodgdon Lil'Gun 13.1 1642
Remarks:
150 Hornady Hodgdon Lil'Gun 14.4 1778
Remarks:
150 Hornady Hodgdon Lil'Gun 15.7 1913
Remarks:
150 Hornady Hodgdon Lil'Gun 17.0 2041
Remarks: maximum load
150 Hornady Hodgdon H-110 12.3 1556
Remarks:
150 Hornady Hodgdon H-110 13.5 1659
Remarks:
150 Hornady Hodgdon H-110 14.7 1762
Remarks:
150 Hornady Hodgdon H-110 15.9 1866
Remarks: maximum load
150 Hornady Winchester W-296 12.7 1585
Remarks:
150 Hornady Winchester W-296 13.8 1689
Remarks:
150 Hornady Winchester W-296 14.9 1785
Remarks:
150 Hornady Winchester W-296 16.0 1873
Remarks: maximum load
150 Hornady IMR IMR-4227 12.9 1357
Remarks:
150 Hornady IMR IMR-4227 14.0 1472
Remarks:
150 Hornady IMR IMR-4227 15.2 1587
Remarks:
150 Hornady IMR IMR-4227 16.3 1701
Remarks: maximum load
150 Hornady Vihtavuori VV-N120 14.1 1408
Remarks:
150 Hornady Vihtavuori VV-N120 15.2 1504
Remarks:
150 Hornady Vihtavuori VV-N120 16.3 1617
Remarks:
150 Hornady Vihtavuori VV-N120 17.3 1729
Remarks:
150 Hornady Vihtavuori VV-N120 18.4 1837
Remarks: maximum load
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-1680 15.4 1496
Remarks:
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-1680 16.6 1581
Remarks:
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-1680 17.8 1680
Remarks:
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-1680 19.0 1778
Remarks:
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-1680 20.2 1876
Remarks:
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-1680 21.4 1975
Remarks:
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-1680 22.0 2059
Remarks: maximum load

waco
07-08-2019, 08:02 PM
Using the Lee 155gr 312 bullet, 15gr of IMR4227 works really well for me in my RAR 300blk.

Lloyd Smale
07-09-2019, 07:41 AM
do you have a link to that data. Its one of the only ones ive seen that uses aa9 and ive been experimenting with it myself but with 130 grain bullets. Id be interested to see the article.
I do not have cast data, but this publushed data should get you started.
I use 1680

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.300 Whisper / .300 AAC Blackout / .300 Blackout (Using 150/155 GR Hornady Bullets)

Warning! Notes: This data was shot by Brian Pearce, Wolfe Publishing Company. Gun: Advanced Armament Corporation AR-15; barrel length: 16 inches; case: Remington; primer: Winchester Small Rifle; bullet diameter: .308"; bullets: 150 GR Hornady GMX, IB, SST, FMJ-BT, RN, BTSP & SP COAL: 2.220" or 155 GR Hornady A-Max COAL: 2.220"; maximum COAL: 2.260"; maximum case length: 1.368"; trim to length: 1.358". Note: 155 GR bullets can be used for all 150 GR data listed.
IMPORTANT: Please view the special notes by clicking here

Love the 300 Blackout Reloading Data. Check out more blackout data
Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data.
Wt. Bullet Powder Manufacturer Powder Charge Velocity (FPS)
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-9 10.9 1412
Remarks:
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-9 12.0 1549
Remarks:
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-9 13.1 1686
Remarks:
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-9 14.2 1824
Remarks: maximum load
150 Hornady Alliant 2400 10.8 1439
Remarks:
150 Hornady Alliant 2400 12.0 1565
Remarks:
150 Hornady Alliant 2400 13.2 1691
Remarks: maximum load
150 Hornady Vihtavuori VV-N110 11.3 1522
Remarks:
150 Hornady Vihtavuori VV-N110 12.5 1644
Remarks:
150 Hornady Vihtavuori VV-N110 13.8 1766
Remarks: maximum load
150 Hornady Hodgdon Lil'Gun 11.8 1526
Remarks:
150 Hornady Hodgdon Lil'Gun 13.1 1642
Remarks:
150 Hornady Hodgdon Lil'Gun 14.4 1778
Remarks:
150 Hornady Hodgdon Lil'Gun 15.7 1913
Remarks:
150 Hornady Hodgdon Lil'Gun 17.0 2041
Remarks: maximum load
150 Hornady Hodgdon H-110 12.3 1556
Remarks:
150 Hornady Hodgdon H-110 13.5 1659
Remarks:
150 Hornady Hodgdon H-110 14.7 1762
Remarks:
150 Hornady Hodgdon H-110 15.9 1866
Remarks: maximum load
150 Hornady Winchester W-296 12.7 1585
Remarks:
150 Hornady Winchester W-296 13.8 1689
Remarks:
150 Hornady Winchester W-296 14.9 1785
Remarks:
150 Hornady Winchester W-296 16.0 1873
Remarks: maximum load
150 Hornady IMR IMR-4227 12.9 1357
Remarks:
150 Hornady IMR IMR-4227 14.0 1472
Remarks:
150 Hornady IMR IMR-4227 15.2 1587
Remarks:
150 Hornady IMR IMR-4227 16.3 1701
Remarks: maximum load
150 Hornady Vihtavuori VV-N120 14.1 1408
Remarks:
150 Hornady Vihtavuori VV-N120 15.2 1504
Remarks:
150 Hornady Vihtavuori VV-N120 16.3 1617
Remarks:
150 Hornady Vihtavuori VV-N120 17.3 1729
Remarks:
150 Hornady Vihtavuori VV-N120 18.4 1837
Remarks: maximum load
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-1680 15.4 1496
Remarks:
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-1680 16.6 1581
Remarks:
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-1680 17.8 1680
Remarks:
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-1680 19.0 1778
Remarks:
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-1680 20.2 1876
Remarks:
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-1680 21.4 1975
Remarks:
150 Hornady Accurate AAC-1680 22.0 2059
Remarks: maximum load

jmort
07-09-2019, 08:18 AM
It was on Load Data so I cannot provide a useable link.
The data is, obviously, from Handloader magazine.
I stopped subscribing a few years ago and just do Load Data
Brian Pearce is a sane man and my favorite gun rag author
Just as a test, I will do
Just for fun of it I will look for AA9 data in the 130 range and AA9 data in general
It is an underappreciated powder

jmort
07-09-2019, 08:25 AM
Here is a start
I included other data for those who have some of the other powders
Should be useful data for load work-up

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.300 Whisper / .300 AAC Blackout / .300 Blackout (Using 125/130 GR Hornady Bullets)

Warning! Notes: This data was shot by Brian Pearce, Wolfe Publishing Company. Gun: Advanced Armament Corporation AR-15; barrel length: 16 inches; case: Remington; primer: Winchester Small Rifle; bullet diameter: .308"; bullets: 125 GR Hornady SST or 130 GR Hornady SP - COAL: 2.100"; maximum COAL: 2.260"; maximum case length: 1.368"; trim to length: 1.358". Note: 125 GR bullets can be used for all 130 GR data listed.
IMPORTANT: Please view the special notes by clicking here

Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data.
Wt. Bullet Powder Manufacturer Powder Charge Velocity (FPS)
130 Hornady Accurate AAC-9 12.1 1641
Remarks:
130 Hornady Accurate AAC-9 13.1 1781
Remarks:
130 Hornady Accurate AAC-9 14.1 1920
Remarks: maximum load
130 Hornady Alliant 2400 11.8 1554
Remarks:
130 Hornady Alliant 2400 13.4 1765
Remarks:
130 Hornady Alliant 2400 14.9 1975
Remarks: maximum load
130 Hornady Vihtavuori VV-N110 12.8 1738
Remarks:
130 Hornady Vihtavuori VV-N110 14.1 1860
Remarks:
130 Hornady Vihtavuori VV-N110 15.5 1982
Remarks:
130 Hornady Vihtavuori VV-N110 16.8 2104
Remarks: maximum load
130 Hornady Winchester W-296 14.2 1702
Remarks:
130 Hornady Winchester W-296 15.3 1811
Remarks:
130 Hornady Winchester W-296 16.4 1921
Remarks:
130 Hornady Winchester W-296 17.5 2053
Remarks: maximum load
130 Hornady Hodgdon H-110 14.6 1753
Remarks:
130 Hornady Hodgdon H-110 15.6 1851
Remarks:
130 Hornady Hodgdon H-110 16.7 1966
Remarks:
130 Hornady Hodgdon H-110 17.7 2080
Remarks:
130 Hornady Hodgdon H-110 18.8 2189
Remarks: maximum load
130 Hornady IMR IMR-4227 14.4 1490
Remarks:
130 Hornady IMR IMR-4227 15.7 1644
Remarks:
130 Hornady IMR IMR-4227 17.0 1798
Remarks:
130 Hornady IMR IMR-4227 18.3 1952
Remarks: maximum load
130 Hornady Hodgdon Lil'Gun 14.7 1948
Remarks:
130 Hornady Hodgdon Lil'Gun 16.0 2030
Remarks:
130 Hornady Hodgdon Lil'Gun 17.3 2127
Remarks:
130 Hornady Hodgdon Lil'Gun 18.7 2224
Remarks:
130 Hornady Hodgdon Lil'Gun 20.0 2317
Remarks: maximum load
130 Hornady Accurate AAC-5744 15.8 1619
Remarks:
130 Hornady Accurate AAC-5744 17.6 1840
Remarks:
130 Hornady Accurate AAC-5744 19.4 2061
Remarks: maximum load
130 Hornady Accurate AAC-1680 18.3 1806
Remarks:
130 Hornady Accurate AAC-1680 19.5 1887
Remarks:
130 Hornady Accurate AAC-1680 20.7 1968
Remarks: maximum load

jmort
07-09-2019, 08:28 AM
This is more bullet weight comprehensive

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.300 Whisper / .300 AAC Blackout / .300 Blackout (Accurate Handgun Loads)

Warning! Notes: barrel: Wiseman; barrel length: 16"; primer: Rem 7 1/2; case: Rem; always start at MINIMUM loads listed as START CHARGE
Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data.
Wt. Bullet Powder Manufacturer Powder Charge Velocity (FPS)
125 Nosler Ballistic Tip Accurate AAC-2 4.8 1,095
Remarks: maximum charge; subsonic load; do not reduce load
125 Nosler Ballistic Tip Accurate AAC-5 5.6 1,054
Remarks: maximum charge; subsonic load; do not reduce load
125 Nosler Ballistic Tip Accurate AAC-7 6.2 1,071
Remarks: maximum charge; subsonic load; do not reduce load
125 Nosler Ballistic Tip Accurate AAC-9 12.3 1,788
Remarks: start charge
125 Nosler Ballistic Tip Accurate AAC-9 13.7 1,943
Remarks: maximum charge
125 Nosler Ballistic Tip Accurate AAC-1680 16.7 1,762
Remarks: start charge
125 Nosler Ballistic Tip Accurate AAC-1680 18.5 1,915
Remarks: maximum charge; compressed load
125 Nosler Ballistic Tip Accurate AAC-5744 16.2 1,811
Remarks: start charge
125 Nosler Ballistic Tip Accurate AAC-5744 18.0 1,969
Remarks: maximum charge; compressed load
180 Sierra Hollow Point Boat Tail Accurate AAC-5 6.8 1,079
Remarks: maximum charge; subsonic load; do not reduce load
180 Sierra Hollow Point Boat Tail Accurate AAC-7 7.4 1,086
Remarks: maximum charge; subsonic load; do not reduce load
180 Sierra Hollow Point Boat Tail Accurate AAC-9 7.9 1,080
Remarks: maximum charge; subsonic load; do not reduce load
180 Sierra Hollow Point Boat Tail Accurate AAC-9 10.2 1,394
Remarks: start charge
180 Sierra Hollow Point Boat Tail Accurate AAC-9 11.3 1,515
Remarks: maximum charge
180 Sierra Hollow Point Boat Tail Accurate AAC-1680 13.5 1,438
Remarks: start charge
180 Sierra Hollow Point Boat Tail Accurate AAC-1680 15.0 1,563
Remarks: maximum charge; compressed load
180 Sierra Hollow Point Boat Tail Accurate AAC-5744 12.2 1,360
Remarks: start charge
180 Sierra Hollow Point Boat Tail Accurate AAC-5744 13.5 1,478
Remarks: maximum charge; compressed load
220 Sierra Hollow Point Boat Tail Accurate AAC-5 6.3 1,062
Remarks: maximum charge; subsonic load; do not reduce load
220 Sierra Hollow Point Boat Tail Accurate AAC-7 7.5 1,043
Remarks: maximum charge; subsonic load; do not reduce load
220 Sierra Hollow Point Boat Tail Accurate AAC-9 8.6 1,125
Remarks: start charge
220 Sierra Hollow Point Boat Tail Accurate AAC-9 9.5 1,223
Remarks: maximum charge
220 Sierra Hollow Point Boat Tail Accurate AAC-1680 10.4 1,034
Remarks: start charge
220 Sierra Hollow Point Boat Tail Accurate AAC-1680 11.5 1,124
Remarks: maximum charge; compressed load
220 Sierra Hollow Point Boat Tail Accurate AAC-5744 9.9 1,087
Remarks: start charge
220 Sierra Hollow Point Boat Tail Accurate AAC-5744 11.0 1,181
Remarks: maximum charge; compressed load

jmort
07-09-2019, 08:36 AM
There is more, but I do not want to further clog- up the thread
I can put up specific requests
Clearly, you have to do your load work-up
Safe and sane
Start low
If you have never done load work-ups, be careful
This is not directed at Lloyd or anyone specifically who is experienced and knows what they are doing
Just saying, be freaking careful
The Accurate data is from Accurate but that don't mean it's accurate
Hope this helps

jmort
07-09-2019, 08:40 AM
BTW, just one more thing I like about the 300 BO
Plays wells with pistol powders in an AR which can be a problem cycling

P.S. I was just studying the AA9 data for 300 BO
As a general matter it is really interesting in this application
Looking at the 220 grain data, I am impressed
Thinking 8 more pounds is in order
I know it works real good in my handguns

Lloyd Smale
07-10-2019, 06:49 AM
ive been shooting the 130 rcbs spitzer gas check with 15 grains of wc820 (aa9) and am getting inch groups at 50 yards and at a 100 about 2 1/8. Id does a bit better with wc297 and even better yet with 110 but I have 6 kegs of 820 so from here on out it will probably be the powder I use. Maybe when I have time ill fool around with different primers charge weights seating dept ect and see if I can do better but bottom line is even 3 inch at a 100 is plenty good for pounding steel out to 200 yards and that's what I do with them 90 percent of the time. For hunting its the 110 barnes all the way. My 16 inch gun shoots ballistic tips and sst's great but 110 barnes x bullets so well im almost embarrassed to talk group sizes because some would call me a liar. Ill put it this way the 8.5 inch 300 puts that bullet into a 1 1/8 at a 100 yards YAWN! The 16 inch gun is probably the most accurate rifle ive ever owned other then dedicated heavy barreled 22 cal varmint guns and it would give most of them a good run for there money.