Lube grooves or no lube grooves question???

[bluejay75]

Greeting Gents,

What has been your findings in load development for slick sided bullets.

I had a so-so experience withslick sided and wanted to give them another try.

Bluejay

[KCSO]

I won't use them as when they take off the Grooves they sell them surplus to Waksupi, who then sells them at a mark up. I'll be darned if I support his bad habits.

On the other hand... I have only used tham as dimpled and graphite coated in 38 wad cutters. Trying for more accuracy and for me at least leading was as bad as factory 3D loads.

[mdi]

"Slick sided" as what? A FMJ? A plated bullet? Like a swaged wadcutter w/dry lube? Or a bullet w/o lube grooves designed for PCing?

[bluejay75]

"Slick sided" as what? A FMJ? A plated bullet? Like a swaged wadcutter w/dry lube? Or a bullet w/o lube grooves designed for PCing?

Cast boolit without lube grooves

[stubshaft]

I have a couple of NLG (no lube groove) molds for PC and have not seen any difference in accuracy with them.

[475AR]

I run them alot, and haven't had any problems. I tend to mostly run them subsonic. Also the ones I have designed shoot just as good as standard lube groove bullets. I also hi-tech coat them.

[Kenstone]

I buy/use no groove PC and Hi tek coated pistol bullets because they feed more reliably thru Hornady feeding dies than grooved bullets.
I have never done any comparison shooting of grooved/non-grooved bullets to identify any velocity/accuracy differences:oops:.
:mrgreen:

[waksupi]

This sounds like an insidious way to interfere with my business. It may call for a lawsuit, as I think my butt is hurt!

[stubshaft]

No worries Waksupi. I know only your loob grooves fit my Asperly Aimless!

[44Blam]

I've got a few bandless molds:
1) 90 grain 30 caliber - it is gas checked and a truncated cone. I shoot it under AA7 and W296 in my Tokarev with velocities around 1500-1600 fps
2) 125 grain 357 cal - gas checked. I shoot it under AA7 in a .357 sig around 1400 fps.
3) 190 grain 40 cal - plain base. Shoot that under AA7 in a .40 S&W around 900 fps.

These are all very accurate.

I powder coat all my boolits because it is less messy, easier and I can tweak the sizing to my gun easier. I PC then do a push through LEE die -- I've ordered a lot of custom ones...