Opinions on cast for 22-250

[Rcmaveric]

Foward thinking and future planning. I have looked around for commercial available 22 cal rifles for a while. I plan on getting one eventually. Looking at twist rates and rifles excetra. I have when it comes to 22 cal rifles, the 22-250 comes pretty much standard with a 1 in 12 twist. Makes it a good candidate for cast in my book. Has anyone tried cast in it? I compared a lot of different 22 cal cast guns from 222 to 223 to the hornet, most had fast twist rates. I am starting to really like what i see with 22-250.

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[David2011]

Are you considering buying a rifle or using one you already have? What kind of velocity do you anticipate and how do you intend to load for that velocity? Seems like that’s a lot of powder capacity for a light cast boolit. The twist rate is in your favor but you only need powder charges appropriate for the .22 Hornet which might make a far better cast cartridge.

[Bzcraig]

I agree with David. While the 22-250 is a great .22 cartridge, you sure won't achieve it's potential shooting cast. I will admit though I have no idea if it makes a good reduced power cast shooter.

[osteodoc08]

There are much better cast shooters in 22 caliber than the 22-250. While it can be done, I know I'd look at 22 Hornet, 222/223, others before the 22/250. Before you start to cast for the 22 cal stuff, hows your finger dexterity? My hands are cramping just thinking about those small boolits.

[Rcmaveric]

I will be buying the rifle. I was looking at the production rifles and the Savage Axis has an offering. I all ready have a Savage Axis in .270 win and love that gun. So, whats one more and i have affection and confidence in the product. I have always wanted a 22 cal gun to cast and reload for. Its more for small game hunting and plinking fun. I feel the .223 would be more suited to my ideas of **** (case Availability), but i cant find a twist rate in production rifles that suites my needs/wants (firm beleive in the RPM threshold theorists). So if anyone know of a 1 in 12 .223 twist production rifle i am really leaning torwards the 22-250.

Looking at the reloading manual, i have equivalent powders for everything listed. Buffalo Bore for 5744, Rx7 for 4198, 2400 for IMR 4227, and i have red dot and Unique. Goal would be a small game load, plinking load and maybe a medium game load for turkey and other medium sized critters. Sure, i can use a 22 cal to hunt in Florida, but i wouldnt unless its head or neck shots. This is more for fun plinking and small/medium game. I have always wanted a 22 cal cartridge.

By small game i mean rabbits and squirrels. By medium game i mean turkey and coyote sized critters. Deer here mostly great dane sized. Big deer are hard to find and you have to know where to look, i do and thats what the 30-30 is for. This gun is for non deer season hunting.

Bullets, Lee has 55g and NOE has a few offerings aswell. NOE has a few heavy bullets.

As far as the reloading manual is showing the are very equal in terms of bullet and powders used for velocities. I would like 1200fps for small game but my book says that both of their best accuracies are in 2000 +/-200 fps zones. Which is fine for paper killing and medium game hunting. Got my first turkey with my .270 and a cast bullet at 2050fps. Worked great.

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[Rcmaveric]

Hornet looks nice also that production rifle comes standard with a 1 in 14. Velocities look more in the ball park of what i am looking for 1600 to 2000 fps. Brass availability looks that one short fall. I have 22-250 bras and find it at my range sometime. Pluss i can make 22-250 brass from 308 brass. I have tons of 308 brass.

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[Rcmaveric]

Finger dexterity is great. Lmao i am an aircraft electrician by trade and also cast and reload for the 380 Auto.

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[wmitty]

I don’t understand your statement regarding case capacity of .22-250 vs .223

[Rcmaveric]

I don’t understand your statement regarding case capacity of .22-250 vs .223Definitely just did more research. Sorry my ignornace showed through on that one. I was looking at drawings and missed the "not actually size". The brass I had early wasnt a 22-250 like i thought. They are in deed quite different. With 22-250 being a necked down and shortened .308 case.

I had some cases that i thought were 22-250 that where about the size of. 223 but wider and slightly shorter.

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[nicholst55]

Definitely just did more research. Sorry my ignornace showed through on that one. I was looking at drawings and missed the "not actually size". The brass I had early wasnt a 22-250 like i thought. They are in deed quite different. With 22-250 being a necked down and shortened .308 case.

I had some cases that i thought were 22-250 that where about the size of. 223 but wider and slightly shorter.

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Sounds like .22BR or .22 PPC.

[trapper9260]

I cast for my 22-250 , it is a Rem 700 . it shoot great I use a Lyman225646 55 gr boolit and also got a mold from NOE of 45gr GC,PB and I have that shoot like a 22lr it works for all I want from it. The powder I use for the 55gr cast is the same powder I use for the 45 gr PB to shot like 22lr but reduced load.

[Shopdog]

I shoot the heck out of 22-250 and 223 in turn bolts. Have a 150 yd range out the back door of a pretty durn nice machine shop. So testing and making "special" tuning and handloading tooling is part of the fun.

Mostly gravitate twds varmint rigs vs target "stuff". The main difference is cold bore,fast as you can rip,3 shot groups..... day in,day out,first round X's....

Compared to heavy bench guns on well heeled heavy BR pedestal rests and bags. These are utilizing foulers,and long shot strings. It's OK,I guess.... kinda boring to me. Would rather be ventilating beer cans down by the river with a Tupperware stocked sporter.

Just a little side note comparing the "250" and the 223.... I can get single digit SD/ES's with the former,the 223's.... heck of a lot harder. These are in the "pushing" 3000fps 55g load spectrum. I'd say it's down to individual guns as to which chambering is easier to tune for. Oh yeah,"less is more" on lube. The "more" being velocity. If I used any less 3-1,BW/vaseline.... it would be none. That's how little gets used. Learn to dry mop,and read what the powder residual is trying to tell you. Get the first round to slam the center out of an X,and keep working/tuning to get the next few rounds to stay with it. Get rid of the horizontal as soon as possible....and I ain't talking windages. Tune it out,pronto.

My EDC is a stainless R700 7-08 with 130g Lee(swaged a bit).... because I like to hunt/hike in the rain. We have some pretty big critters that need to be shot sometimes and the 7 is a better wind bucker.The 22's are better for calmer,dryer hunting.

[quack1]

I've cast for my 22-250 for years. Most accurate load for my gun is Lyman 225462 over 18.5gr 3031, nearly 2200fps. Killed a pile of ground hogs with that bullet. I tried Lyman 225438 but didn't get as good of accuracy. My plinking load is the Lee Bator with the gas check shank removed to make it a plain base. Best load in my gun is 6.3gr of 4227, gives a little over 1300fps. Works well on squirrels.

[dondiego]

Have you ever actually made 22-250 from .308 brass? I thought that the parent case was a .250-3000 Savage.

[35remington]

It is.

[Rcmaveric]

Have you ever actually made 22-250 from .308 brass? I thought that the parent case was a .250-3000 Savage.No i have not. Google says it is quite do able though. RCBS used to sell a conversion die set to make it, dont see it available. I imagine it isnt as easy as it sounds. The 22-250 has a tapered case and is shorter. The case head is the same. So a stout press and good sizing lube is a must. I all ready have the tools to neck turn so i just need 22 cal mandrel. I have the tools to anneal. I imagine i am good. Should be tedious, but I don't mind. I all ready make 6.5g Grendel brass and 260 Rem brass.

The 250 Savage is the parent case for the 22-250. The case heads are the same and falls into the .308 parent case family.

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[dh2]

I have read this with my own reason in mind, I cast for and load 22 Hornet which is a wonderful squirrel gun , I have loved my 220 Swift for years but brass is getting hard to find, So I am building a 22-250 AI and like all AI rounds brass must be fire formed , so I am going to try using my Lyman 225415 over a load of IMR4198 to get this job done it should be able to form this brass with no barrel ware on the rifle

[richhodg66]

The Hornet makes a good cast cartridge. The older ones all have slow twists, 1 in16" or 1 in 14". I shoot light cast loads in mine for squirrel hunting and it works great.

[Sig556r]

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Comparing the case capacity of the 22-250 to .223. Looks like the 22-250 has less.

May be a typo? 22-250 has way more case capacity than a .223

[Rcmaveric]

May be a typo? 22-250 has way more case capacity than a .223Misconception. It was cured. Lol edited my post.

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[dondiego]

No i have not. Google says it is quite do able though. RCBS used to sell a conversion die set to make it, dont see it available. I imagine it isnt as easy as it sounds. The 22-250 has a tapered case and is shorter. The case head is the same. So a stout press and good sizing lube is a must. I all ready have the tools to neck turn so i just need 22 cal mandrel. I have the tools to anneal. I imagine i am good. Should be tedious, but I don't mind. I all ready make 6.5g Grendel brass and 260 Rem brass.

The 250 Savage is the parent case for the 22-250. The case heads are the same and falls into the .308 parent case family.

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Sounds like a good project!

[beagle]

I have shot the RCBS 22-55-SP in both a Swift and a .22-250. The problem is that it's hard to throttle them back enough to shoot cast accurately due to the larger case capacity. My friend was attempting to shoot them at Swift velocities and I don't think they made it 25 yards down range. I loaded him a few with reduced loads but he was expecting jacketed bullet performance from cast and soon gave up the project./beagle