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Blammer
01-13-2019, 02:40 AM
is 45-70 the same as 45-70 Government?

Catshooter
01-13-2019, 02:51 AM
Yep.


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Harter66
01-13-2019, 03:04 AM
Nope .
The OM was a 500 gr RN 45-70-500 .
The the Cavalry couldn't handle it so they got a reduced load for the carbines a 405 . 45-70-405 .
That was still too much of a good thing so it got wadded down to a 45-65-405 .

In the modern context though yeah it is .
Kind of like Cal 30 model of 1906 vs 30-06' Springfield vs 06' .
Or 30 WCF and 30-30 .
45 Long Colt vs 45 Colts not to be confused with the shorter 45 Schofield or 45 S&W .
Of course I love this little lost gem just because it makes heads explode .
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M-Tecs
01-13-2019, 03:13 AM
https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2016/8/17/is-the-45-70-govt-cartridge-still-relevant/

http://www.cartridgecollector.net/45-70-government

https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/1zy1qh/history_and_development_of_the_4570_government/

http://oldammo.com/november04.htm