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Lloyd Smale
01-09-2019, 06:25 AM
any proven designs?

Gamsek
01-09-2019, 07:06 AM
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311410 MP Molds can be very versatile and proven accurate in my Blackout, with that mould you can cast small FP, short HP or deep HP
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How it will preform depends on velocity, alloy and HP size, but it is very deadly on small game as fox up to roe deer.
Hope it helps.

Gamsek
01-09-2019, 07:11 AM
124grs to 132grs with GC. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190109/5ca40bb0da21b62e21d31530a98e4a6b.jpg
Had the pb version too....

Lloyd Smale
01-09-2019, 08:04 AM
looks like just what I want. they were out of stock but I got on the notify list

Lloyd Smale
01-09-2019, 08:06 AM
what alloy are you using and how fast are you pushing them to get that kind of expansion?

Gamsek
01-09-2019, 08:36 AM
what alloy are you using and how fast are you pushing them to get that kind of expansion?

Expansion with nice mushroom is possible with soft alloy HP and up to 1100 fps. I tried pure lead, pure with 2%, 5% and 10% tin, everything works fine with GC and accurate.

I shoot mostly subsonic, 4.5grs TrailBoss with 130grs will stay subsonic.

When you pass subsonic velocity tip will shred - how much again depends mainly how deep HP is. Those were5% tin from subsonic to 1150fps. See photo
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My max velocity with 10:1 alloy was 480m/s, (1575 fps) and it shred a lot, but alloy was hard. See photohttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190109/df1697149ce472efeca65cdc01a4ee3f.jpg

I didn’t push them faster because I have 1/7” in my RAR, but consistently accurate no matter alloy. With zero lead development and no ladder test I got this at 55y. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190109/77a8f90c9f1330d6d6508046e451f410.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190109/fea4cb938d45fbdd246ae5a9de41541f.jpg
6grs of TrailBoss and pistol primer, velocity in metric meters per second, thats 10 shoots per grou

cwlongshot
01-09-2019, 08:56 AM
Impressive Gamsek, Bravo!


I have found 180< bullets shoot better and spec 150ish are about tops from my own RARR.

I would like a HP mold, so far only ones I have used are form other members I have traded with. But I like them allot! I need a mold of my own one day.

I like the Lyman 150 and Lee 165 molds I have.

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Accuracy has never been there strong point. about 2" 50Y is my best. Its disconcerting as the rifle will shoot 1/2 MOA with super 147/150 jacketed.

(This is 10 shots @ 100 yards)
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(This is 5 @ 100. Both from RARR)
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CW

Gamsek
01-09-2019, 09:08 AM
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My RAR also shoots almost one hole groups with factory 110grs Vortex and reloaded 190 Hornady Interlock.

I have also 150grs HP (312-159 Hunting) and 180grs small HP (180-Sil) from MP, I played a lot with 150grs, hunted with it in 2017. Both are HP/FP but only one HP pin. 180 has to small HP for my mostly subsonic velocities but it would be great at 1600-2000fps.
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jmort
01-09-2019, 09:29 AM
This is a current group buy that should work. I see no reason it would not feed in an AR. It should have great terminal effect. Buy will close this week.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?361487-ACTIVE-Mihec-314-140-PB-GC-140gr-311-or-314-(32-6gun-Sledgehammer)-Cramer-HP-amp-Solid

Gamsek
01-09-2019, 09:39 AM
This is a current group buy that may work. I am going to try it
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?361487-ACTIVE-Mihec-314-140-PB-GC-140gr-311-or-314-(32-6gun-Sledgehammer)-Cramer-HP-amp-Solid

Tried that too, accurate, did not feed well from RAR magazine so it went to my friend with lever action 30-30 and his first group was amazing. 4 shoots touching at 50m, peep sight.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190109/9e1e9adc6182433033107b2f19abc174.jpg with 314” - for someone who PC it will to necessary to size first, PC, size. Nicknamed sledgehammer;)

krallstar
01-09-2019, 09:45 AM
Gamsek, What mold is the last pic, And what weight. The three shiny HP ones.

jmort
01-09-2019, 09:55 AM
Tried that too, accurate, did not feed well from RAR magazine so it went to my friend with lever action 30-30 and his first group was amazing. 4 shoots touching at 50m, peep sight.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190109/9e1e9adc6182433033107b2f19abc174.jpg with 314” - for someone who PC it will to necessary to size first, PC, size. Nicknamed sledgehammer;)

Mihec is running it at .311 as well
So it may take one run throuh a sizer after Hi-Tek , but you are looking at .004" or less with PC and that should only take one pass through the sizer as well. It should feed fine in an AR. Your bolt action should have liked it, but the RAR is what it is. Even if will not feed in my PSA 300 BO pistol, and it should, no problem, I will use in .30-30s and .308. Will also use it in my AR .308. I expect zero feeding problems in an AR.
I am getting No Lube Groove GC .311 with all pins

Gamsek
01-09-2019, 10:06 AM
Gamsek, What mold is the last pic, And what weight. The three shiny HP ones.

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I believe its from 170-180grs before lubing, GC. Its MP 311-180-Sil HP, I believe it was machined as it was closed on 7th (closed group buys-ready to be delivered)
Send him a pm if he has some extra, but first read what he offered (solid, Hp, 3cav brass, 6cav aluminum.....)

cwlongshot
01-10-2019, 09:07 AM
This is a current group buy that should work. I see no reason it would not feed in an AR. It should have great terminal effect. Buy will close this week.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?361487-ACTIVE-Mihec-314-140-PB-GC-140gr-311-or-314-(32-6gun-Sledgehammer)-Cramer-HP-amp-Solid This is a good looking bullet.

I have subscribed and need to decide!

Thanks,
CW

C-dubb
01-10-2019, 04:31 PM
Im just amazed at the beautiful photography.

Lloyd Smale
01-14-2019, 07:07 AM
found a hp mold in the stash I might try. Its an noe 4 cav 115 grain lfngc hp mold that is marked .314 for the 32 mag. Going to cast some today out of 5050 ww/pure size the to 309 and pc them.

cwlongshot
01-14-2019, 12:39 PM
Im just amazed at the beautiful photography.

I agree, Its amazing the quality coming out of Cell Phones today!! (I don't know if these are cell pics.)

I post many pics and am always impressed for the quality they afford.

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CW

jsizemore
01-14-2019, 04:30 PM
Has anybody tried the 115gr carbine boolit?

Lloyd Smale
01-15-2019, 06:42 AM
One of the bullets I casted was a 110 grain lachmiller round nose designed for the 30 carbine. Cant help you yet though. Right now im just casting piles of bullets to try. Wont get out to shoot them till the snow is gone in the spring.
Has anybody tried the 115gr carbine boolit?