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44MAG#1
12-14-2018, 10:35 AM
Here is a fine cartridge. My number one round for a semi-auto.

232061

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PJEagle
12-14-2018, 10:42 AM
I tried several hundred rounds that looked just like those in my Springfield Trophy Match last year. No mater what I did there were feeding issues. Gave up on the SWC's and went back to round nose and had 100% success. I am getting ready to cast a bunch of round flat nose to try now.

Ed_Shot
12-14-2018, 10:52 AM
What boolit is that? I really like the Lyman 452630 (200 gr. SWC). Very accurate and perfect function in CZ 97 and G21. But I admit....G30 and 1911 do have issues.

44MAG#1
12-14-2018, 10:53 AM
what boolit is that? I really like the lyman 452630 (200 gr. Swc). Very accurate and perfect function in cz 97 and g21. But i admit....g30 and 1911 do have issues.

h&g 68

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Rich/WIS
12-14-2018, 11:25 AM
I use the Lee clone of that bullet in my Springfield Armory Range Officer, loaded to OAL of 1.227 and have not had issues with feeding. Unfortunately some 1911's just don't like SWC bullets.

DxieLandMan
12-14-2018, 12:16 PM
Those are some nice ones but I always had issues with SWC so I went back to FMJ and never had a feed issue after that. Nice looking boolits though!

DonMountain
12-14-2018, 12:19 PM
That looks identical to the loads I use, with absolutely no feeding or shooting issues in my S&W model 1917. Its the most accurate cast projectile I have ever used in that firearm. So I cast plenty of them!

toallmy
12-14-2018, 12:45 PM
I have a hard time deciding witch I like better 185 or 200 gr swc .

mdi
12-14-2018, 12:47 PM
Yep, some guns don't feed SWC bullets consistently. My RIA 1911 will digest anything I can fit in the magazine, but my Ruger P90 will have 2-5 failures to feed per magazine when 200 gr SWC are loaded...

44MAG#1
12-14-2018, 12:48 PM
I have a 230 fr rnfp I like best.

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Char-Gar
12-14-2018, 12:50 PM
I tried several hundred rounds that looked just like those in my Springfield Trophy Match last year. No mater what I did there were feeding issues. Gave up on the SWC's and went back to round nose and had 100% success. I am getting ready to cast a bunch of round flat nose to try now.

How to solve your feeding issues with cast bullets in any 1911 pistol;

1. Remove the barrel from you pistol.
2. Mail it to DougGuy (PM him on this board) for his full treatment. He will throat the barrel, polish and contour the feed ramp as needed and re-crown the muzzle. The charge is $60.00 which includes return postage and the turn around time is just a few days.
3. Put the barrel back in your pistol.
4. Any round that will feed through your magazine will now feed 100% in your pistol providing you used a proper taper crimp.

mattw
12-14-2018, 12:54 PM
That is my goto bullet in 45ACP. If it does not feed well... then off to the dremel to polish the ramp and it will feed well!

I load them in my plinking Norico down to about 575 FPS and up to full house for my other guns. Love the hole a SWC leaves, my old eyes can see it from the firing line!

Moleman-
12-14-2018, 01:24 PM
I've put easily tens of thousands of the lee 200gr swc out of a Colt, Springfield, Kimber, a S&W 4506, and a thompson 1927A1. Likely close to 100k just out of the colt and 4506. Makes me happy too, even though I load for other pistol cartridges including a .355"x.754" that a lot of guys dislike.

Texas by God
12-14-2018, 02:11 PM
Here is a fine cartridge. My number one round for a semi-auto.

232061

Again I mean no hurt, harm, anguish or turmoil by my post I have posted on this posted subject. I am not baiting, trolling or calling out anyone. I am making a post based on my experience, knowledge and/or belief or opinion. That is all.

Yep x 3; Lee clone of that one seated just like that over 5grs of Bullseye every day. Yes, I shoot a lot of factory ball as well but the 200 swc is the favorite. Someday I hope to take a bow range deer with it.

ShooterAZ
12-14-2018, 02:32 PM
I have 3 versions of that same basic mold, the RCBS 201 SWC, the Noe H&G 68 clone (5 cavity), and the Lee version (6 cavity). Of the 3, the RCBS 201 SWC is my favorite. It doesn't rain boolits like the other two, but it's easy to cast with and casts a perfect boolit every throw. All of them are as accurate as I can shoot, and feed fine in all my 1911's. I also load them with 5 gr Bullseye. It's a true classic design.

daloper
12-14-2018, 03:19 PM
My RIA loves SWC. I also us the Lyman 452630 (200 gr. SWC). I have a 6 cavity MP clone coming. That Iron mold is getting a little heavy in my older age.

marek313
12-14-2018, 03:20 PM
I find H&G 68 clones to be very accurate. I have Saeco PB #68 which shoots great but it will not feed reliably in my FNX45. I recently purchased CZ97 and they work great in that gun. Some guns are just more picky then others but #68 is a great bullet for 45acp.

megasupermagnum
12-14-2018, 03:39 PM
I get the most puzzle look when I tell people I'll take 45 ACP over 10 mm auto any day. "You must like 1911's." Nope, I just think 45 ACP has it all over 10 mm. 10mm is no slouch when sending 200 grain bullets at about 1150 fps, but a 45 ACP can send a 255 grain bullet out at 850-900 fps, at 1/2 of the pressure. Brass is everywhere for free, guns are often hundreds of dollars cheaper.

jmort
12-14-2018, 03:58 PM
What post #11 says

one-eyed fat man
12-14-2018, 04:50 PM
Saeco #067 230 grains from old wheel weights, 5.0 grains Bullseye. Feeds in everything I own, shoots well. See no reason to change.

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8mmFan
12-14-2018, 05:09 PM
My Springfield XD's definitely do not do well with SWC's. Round nose bullets cycle all day long with them.

gwpercle
12-14-2018, 05:23 PM
No problems with SWC in any of my 45's. Colt Gold Cup , Colt Commander, AMT hardballer and Star model PS....every one fed them like a champ....even won a few NRA Bullseye Match trophies with SWC's in the 45 acp . The problem might be you aren't holding your mouth right .
Gary

Mk42gunner
12-14-2018, 06:06 PM
I got started with the .45 ACP using the Lyman 452460. It works fine in my Kimber so I looked no further. I now have three molds for that boolit, two DC and a four cavity All three drop ACWW in to the range of 205-207 grains so I really don't see the need to get rid of one of the DC.

They do look very short and stubby when loaded to 1.16", but they feed and do what I need my .45 to do. Which is go bang every single time I pull the trigger.

Robert

Stork
12-14-2018, 06:17 PM
No problems with SWC in any of my 45's. Colt Gold Cup , Colt Commander, AMT hardballer and Star model PS....every one fed them like a champ....even won a few NRA Bullseye Match trophies with SWC's in the 45 acp . The problem might be you aren't holding your mouth right .
Gary

Gary, now those are just purdy!
Also my favorite bullet in my wad guns, hardball gun, truck gun & carry gun. My first wad gun is closing in on 80,000 of a combination of those and H&G 130's through it & still holds 10 ring or better @ 50 yds. Full disclosure, I do have about 500 Lyman 460's and a thousand Zero 185 JHP's in that 80k
Al

big bore 99
12-14-2018, 06:22 PM
Been working just fine for me for many years.

tazman
12-14-2018, 08:26 PM
My Springfield XD's definitely do not do well with SWC's. Round nose bullets cycle all day long with them.

The original XD in 45ACP had issues with the SWC. This problem was corrected in the XDM. I have both versions of the pistol.
For the Early XD, I load the Lee 452-200-RF and it works perfectly.
I wanted a 200 grain boolit for it and this one fits the bill.
My 1911 pistols in 45ACP will all feed the H&G 68 clones as well as the Lyman 452460. Hard to tell which one shoots better.

Taterhead
12-15-2018, 09:27 PM
5.0 grains of 452AA under the Lee clone of the #68 shoots very well from a 1911.

Very nice photo, 44!

Boolseye
12-16-2018, 11:10 AM
The only hurt, pain or anguish I can imagine is one of those things coming at me!
The .45 is an amazing all-around caliber, no question.

ioon44
12-17-2018, 10:08 AM
I used a lot of 452AA back in the 1990's with the H&G 68 with my 1911 and I have not use any powder in the 1911 that did not work great.

anothernewb
12-17-2018, 10:22 AM
also my favorite. love the 1911 platform, and love the 45acp cartridge.

lightman
12-17-2018, 10:39 AM
I've cast and shot more of that type bullet than any other in 45 ACP. It works well in all of my pistols. I started with a RCBS 45-201 and eventually scored an original H&G 68. They both cast great.

jsizemore
12-17-2018, 01:35 PM
Here is a fine cartridge. My number one round for a semi-auto.

232061

Again I mean no hurt, harm, anguish or turmoil by my post I have posted on this posted subject. I am not baiting, trolling or calling out anyone. I am making a post based on my experience, knowledge and/or belief or opinion. That is all.

Looks like I could load your ammo in my pistol.

OS OK
12-17-2018, 01:52 PM
The Lee TL-452-200-SWC's work well too, I run these at 900FPS, good target & prolly pretty good SD round too. Easy on the 1911.

https://i.imgur.com/1tSpghu.jpg

Petrol & Powder
12-17-2018, 01:57 PM
I use the SAECO #069 version of that 200 grain H&G #68 SWC and it feeds fine as long as you seat it so that very little shoulder shows above the case mouth.
It is a fantastic round.

fredj338
12-17-2018, 03:54 PM
I reload for something like 25 diff calibers, most handgun, but I always have had an affinity for the ole 45acp. I also load mostly 200gr, but switched to a truncated cone for more reliable feeding in diff platforms. Funny the old 1911 is the least finicky platform when it comes to bullets?

trixter
12-20-2018, 01:16 PM
My Springfield XD's definitely do not do well with SWC's. Round nose bullets cycle all day long with them.
Hmmm, My XDm in 45acp, and my XDs in 9mm both love the semi wadcutter boolits, I have no feeding problems with either one.

tazman
12-20-2018, 01:45 PM
Hmmm, My XDm in 45acp, and my XDs in 9mm both love the semi wadcutter boolits, I have no feeding problems with either one.

The original XD in 45ACP had issues with the SWC. This problem was corrected in the XDM. I have both versions of the pistol and can verify that the early XD 45acp pistols didn't work right with SWC type boolits and the XDM works perfectly with it.
For the Early XD, I load the Lee 452-200-RF and it works perfectly.

Walks
12-20-2018, 02:08 PM
I grew up on the .45 AUTO. First center fire auto I ever fired, I think I was 7-8 yrs old. 1911, Love at first shot.
I use a light load with a #452488 stubby WC in my Gold Cup.
A stout load with the RCBS 45-201-KT ( H&G 68 CLONE FB ) Clean holes in paper and feeds in anything ( no moslem made guns for me ).
And old faithful Hardball Load, #452374 cast hard over a max charge of UNIQUE.

My Very Favorite Auto-loading handgun.
The 1911 in .45 Auto, the way it's supposed to be.

rsrocket1
12-20-2018, 02:23 PM
Saeco #067 230 grains from old wheel weights, 5.0 grains Bullseye. Feeds in everything I own, shoots well. See no reason to change.

232070

For a minute there I thought you stole my picture. This is from my first batch of Lee TL230-452-TC's many years ago. I love these bullets. They never jam in my 1911 or XD45 and perform great. The big heavy boolits fall like rain from the 6 cavity mold, probably the easiest casting bullets of all.

https://images3.imgbox.com/e3/80/1ii0QXSt_o.jpg

I now PC them instead of TL them. Makes for less smoke.

43PU
12-20-2018, 03:03 PM
I’ve killed several deer with the lee 200swc just like that, the furthest shot was 35 yards, it looked like someone poked a sharpened pipe through that deer it was impressive, I was using VERY soft alloy almost pure with some tin added I think it was 7-8BHN

Boolseye
12-30-2018, 09:07 AM
I’ve killed several deer with the lee 200swc just like that, the furthest shot was 35 yards, it looked like someone poked a sharpened pipe through that deer it was impressive, I was using VERY soft alloy almost pure with some tin added I think it was 7-8BHN

Out of a handgun?


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GhostHawk
12-30-2018, 09:18 AM
I have to admit I find .45acp a bit intimidating in a handgun. But it a Carbine, Yeowsa, what joy!

I know most won't brag about a Hipoint period. But I love my Hipoint Carbine in .45acp.

Even with just a Red Dot scope it was turning in very acceptable accuracy from 50 to 100 yards. That's all I need. And for hunting the thick stuff, can you say "Made to Order?"

Boolseye
12-30-2018, 11:18 AM
Out of a carbine, with a gain of 200 fps or more over a pistol, you are talking about a decent deer rifle out to 50-75 yds.
I would consider that a humane brush gun with the right load.

+1 on the hi-point :-). Dad has the 4595, it's great.

Texas by God
12-30-2018, 05:45 PM
I was hoping for a close shot this morning.
200 swc in my Ballester. The deer didn't show up.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181230/70b57c57d14f86aca3dd53f92b985c5f.jpg

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Tazman1602
12-30-2018, 06:08 PM
Here is a fine cartridge. My number one round for a semi-auto.

232061

Again I mean no hurt, harm, anguish or turmoil by my post I have posted on this posted subject.

Agreed, that bullet shoots great through every 45 Auto I own.....(I have a couple....)

Art

Winger Ed.
12-30-2018, 06:23 PM
Being able to affordably feed a Series 80 Gold Cup was how and why I got into casting.
I use a Lee 200 SW 6 hole mold and a old RCBS SW 190.
When I first got the Colt, a buddy who is a jeweler had all the right stuff to polish the rails & throat.
I reduced the load down and use a lighter spring to try and make it last forever.
It gulps and swallows anything you put into it.

OS OK
12-30-2018, 06:36 PM
Have been shooting the Lee TL 452-200-SWC's PC'd @ 900 FPS (really good round) for a long time and wanted to try their TL-452-230-RN's. @ 832 FPS (seems like lighter recoil than the 200g.'s) This is the experimental color batch...really want a color that says FMJ but my clear copper PC is a bit anemic looking.

https://i.imgur.com/OsO0IVr.jpg

I mixed a bit of red with the clear copper hoping to rich it up but I think I overdid it a lil'bit.

https://i.imgur.com/oZO6vfk.jpg

Echo
12-30-2018, 07:06 PM
A lot of SWC feed problems come from the magazines, not so much the ramp. But the RN -374 (for example) will feed forever. I used MANY -460's when I became a civilian and Uncle Sugar wasn't providing my ammo any more, and had absolutely NO problems, after I jacked the BE load from 3.5 grs to 3.6 grs. No problemo...

Mr_Sheesh
12-30-2018, 09:22 PM
I really need to get a short video showing how easy a 1911 is to control, with just your thumb and trigger finger touching the gun.

You do need the grip safety disabled (as you're holding the pistol as low in your hand as possible, to reduce muzzle flip), and an extended safety and beavertail safety (probably.) Then you lock it down with just your thumb, and just touch the trigger with the tip of your trigger finger, it's usable as an accuracy drill to see if you are pulling the trigger properly or not. If you didn't disable the grip safety, it'd probably put the gun on safe, so you disable it to make sure. (And you make darn sure people have GOOD habits on the gun safety rules, not trusting a safety, not crossing others with the muzzle etc.!) You don't want a limp wrist for this; I've seen a tiny gal do this and she was doing fine, the 1911 would flip up, of course, when fired, but she'd just bring it back down on target and fire again.

A hot 44 Mag load, that can hurt your hand; a factory 45 ACP load, not so much.

tazman
12-31-2018, 01:07 AM
I did have an issue with recoil from a 1911 45ACp. After practice, I learned to get used to it. In my defense, I do have arthritis in my wrists and fingers. Not disabling but troublesome.
I find I can handle recoil from hot 45ACP, 44 special, and 357magnum without much trouble. Anything more just gets too painful and is no longer fun to shoot.
I might as well hit myself on the wrist with a ball pein hammer. It would be just as much fun.

Mr_Sheesh
12-31-2018, 01:40 AM
I have some arthritis all over, now; Light, fortunately, so I think I'll be OK short of 44 Mag hot loads, which always hurt "a bit"; I expect they'll sting more now. I do plan to soak hands in the Paraffin bath I got some time ago, though to a large extent I use that to warm my hands up in Winter, instead of to reduce pain LOL

Ball Peen Hammer on hands = OW, no bueno!

Boolseye
01-01-2019, 09:42 AM
Taken when I was considering selling some CBs
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tazman
01-01-2019, 12:03 PM
Very nice.

JBinMN
01-01-2019, 12:51 PM
also my favorite. love the 1911 platform, and love the 45acp cartridge.

Ditto. Just makes me smile thinking about it. LOL
;)