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Blacky Montana
10-30-2018, 10:02 AM
Ok guys.. Trying to get more manuals. Lyman has so many different ones. Is the Cast Bullet Handbook a actual reloading data book, or is it just teaching to cast.

Blacky

ericandelaine1975
10-30-2018, 10:08 AM
Both. It has good load data in it as well as good information about casting. Its worth every penny.

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Dusty Bannister
10-30-2018, 10:09 AM
It is an actual manual, with data for 45 colt bullets up to 300 grains. It also provides a lot of information for new casters that might benefit us that have been playing the game but can use a refresher.

JonB_in_Glencoe
10-30-2018, 10:19 AM
IMHO, the Lyman castbullet handbook 4th Ed. is the best reloading manual for the beginner boolit caster.

ericandelaine1975
10-30-2018, 10:43 AM
IMHO, the Lyman castbullet handbook 4th Ed. is the best reloading manual for the beginner boolit caster.Agreed

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Blacky Montana
10-30-2018, 10:56 AM
Thanks guys.. so many Lyman books wasnt sure which to get.

ericandelaine1975
10-30-2018, 11:00 AM
Thanks guys.. so many Lyman books wasnt sure which to get.All of them. Lol

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ericandelaine1975
10-30-2018, 11:01 AM
Seriously the casting book will give you alot of info.

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mikeatl
10-30-2018, 12:29 PM
Some say 3 is better than4 but I don't know ,I have all 4 of the handbooks and 9 of the regular Lyman reloading books. I know , way to many but what can I say? Mike

tazman
10-31-2018, 07:49 AM
If you use any of the older powders, you need manuals that list data for them. Some of the new manuals don't cover the old powders any more, some of which are still available.
If you use the newest powders, you need the newest manuals. Trying to keep up to date on powders is a job in itself.

ericandelaine1975
10-31-2018, 07:50 AM
If you use any of the older powders, you need manuals that list data for them. Some of the new manuals don't cover the old powders any more, some of which are still available.
If you use the newest powders, you need the newest manuals. Trying to keep up to date on powders is a job in itself.That is a very true statement.

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northmn
10-31-2018, 08:19 AM
I utilize the Lyman manuals the most. I have the cast bullet handbook #3 and the 48th addition of the reloaders manual. Now there is lots of data available on the internet. Hodgdons and Accurate Arms are pretty good. Alliant is not so good.


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Wayne Smith
10-31-2018, 09:57 AM
The same is true of old cartridges, especially wildcats. My old Sierra has data for the 257 Roberts AI. Bet you won't find that in the new ones!

jmort
10-31-2018, 10:10 AM
Agree with getting Lyman Cast 4th. The 3rd edition is good as well. I have a couple of the 45th Lyman Manuals and the 50th. The 45th are really useful to me.

ericandelaine1975
10-31-2018, 11:36 AM
well the new ones aren't as nice as the old ones. Who wants load data that suddenly drops down 2 grains between editions.. yada yada.

lyman cast #3 changed a lot when it became #4. lots of good stuff gone im toldI noticed the same thing between the regular Lyman 48th and 49th editions. My guess is someone done something stupid and they cut back the loads of the gun manufacturers got cheaper on their guns. I'm leaning more towards the first one.

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Blacky Montana
10-31-2018, 12:10 PM
I guess the one that doesnt change is actual Black Powder.. I got 2 or 3 cans of GOEX FFg.. Plus Tripple 7, Shockey Gold, and maybe Pyrodex.. Use to shoot muzzleloaders a lot..lol

jmort
10-31-2018, 12:36 PM
Some of the older manuals had data that was never pressure tested but published. You can usually tell by merely looking for the pressure data. No data, then use caution. Also, there is no direct correlation between CUP and PSI. But you can figure it out.

gwpercle
10-31-2018, 12:44 PM
If you think you're confused now, just wait until you start looking at all the data from 5 or 6 different manuals and none of them agree....
I will tell you this...reloading is not an exact science and seldom do two manuals agree .
Gary

ericandelaine1975
10-31-2018, 12:53 PM
If you think you're confused now, just wait until you start looking at all the data from 5 or 6 different manuals and none of them agree....
I will tell you this...reloading is not an exact science and seldom do two manuals agree .
GaryYou got that right.

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northmn
10-31-2018, 01:39 PM
I have seen a few differences where the primers and cases differ. Most manuals go with the same case primer combination ie Winchester primers in Winchester cases. I have an old Lyman manual that lists loads for the 44-40 up to 2000 fps and another old manual that lists some pretty hot 45 Colt loads. I really think that some of what you see is what Winchester ran into back before WW2 when they had some hotter loads for those old BP cartridges. They were 92 and 94 loads but many folks did not read the boxes. Same for some of the loading data. I suspect more than a few Colt Peacemakers got loosened up a bit shooting some of those 45 Colt loads, even though they were for Rugers. Same for the 44-40 loads. As one wise individual stated "Its impossible to make anything fool proof because fools are so ingenious"

DP

GregLaROCHE
10-31-2018, 04:13 PM
Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook is first choice. Lee’s reloading Manuel has a lot of good stuff too.

There’s stuff on the internet, but most powder manufacturers only give data for jacketed bullets.