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Pressman
10-24-2018, 07:55 PM
Looking around a semi-local gunshop today they told me a guy I knew had been in with an early TC Hawken that he wanted to sell on consignment. I forgot to ask condition but knowing this guy it is likely unfired.
This is an early model for around the mid 1970's give or take. He was told it would maybe sell for $125.00 so he took it home.

I am not a big TC fan, but it intrigues me. What is a fair value for a 90/95% gun?

KEN

1Hawkeye
10-24-2018, 09:11 PM
For a 1970's T/C Hawken In excellent shape 375.00 to 425.00 for a minty one would not be unreasonable.

hylander
10-24-2018, 11:22 PM
I just bought one off of Gunbroker for $350
Which I think is a good price for an excellent 95% condition.

mooman76
10-25-2018, 10:11 AM
It really varies allot. Some areas of the country seem to be flooded with them used and go cheap and some areas don't have that many used, especially in good shape so of coarse they go higher. The time of year matters too. This time of year with hunting going on they go higher. There are also less to chose from. CVA quit marketing sidelocks and went the way of the inlines as well as other companies. Many people seem to be buying them and parting them out on ebay. They can get more money for the parts than the whole rifle. I would have jumped all over it at that price and I need another ML like I need a hole in the head.

Buzzard II
10-25-2018, 11:35 AM
Buy it now!

RustyReel
10-25-2018, 01:18 PM
That's kinda the gunshow asking price around here. Personally I would not pay that for one. Bought one a couple of months ago from a pawn shop (90% gun) for $120 OTD. Also one earlier this year via on-line auction (45 Cal/ 95% gun) for $165 shipped. Just gotta keep watching and asking.....Most black powder guys around here like either real old or real new (inline) stuff. TC Hawkens are neither.

Tackleberry41
10-25-2018, 01:49 PM
Well there's what people say its worth, and what you can actually get for one. I had a pretty old TC hawken 50 cal w the factory scope set up and scope. Very nice shape. Best offer I got was $150, and there were few offers. Side locks is a niche market with alot of supply and low demand. I had a really nice 54cal Lyman took me 2 years to sell it. I got offers, but insultingly low.

So I put the scope on another gun, and irons on the TC. Worth $150 for me to keep it.

mooman76
10-25-2018, 02:28 PM
Allot of sellers don't really like to deal with used ones because they quite often sit a long time before selling.

Pressman
10-25-2018, 03:09 PM
Thanks for the input everyone. It will be of great help negotiating a sale for this one.
FYI: I got a 50 cal Lyman a few weeks ago that came from the same person, new in the box or so it looks for $200. I thought I had won the lottery on that one.

Ken

Rich/WIS
10-25-2018, 03:59 PM
Local pawnshop here has one, looks new, asking $250. Bought mine (guessing 80-85%) off another forum a couple years ago with the TC peep sight for $205 shipped.

Texas by God
10-25-2018, 06:12 PM
I sold an 85% condition Renegade .54 for $200 the other day and was happy to get that.

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RU shooter
10-25-2018, 08:07 PM
As others have said it varies with location here in Pa a clean early TC and if it's a flintlock would be premium priced if a cap lock the price drops way down and would be a hard sell to anyone . In this area 375-425 for a flinter cap lock 200 bucks .

pietro
10-25-2018, 08:16 PM
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The reason the selling price varies by region is that, in some areas, frontstuffer hunters all want modern/scoped inlines with synthetic stocks, and side hammer guns will have a few birthdays on the used gun rack in those areas.

My state/area is like that - which is why I've bought T/C's in excellent shape for $100-$150, cash.

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rockrat
10-25-2018, 09:35 PM
$150-$200 around here. Everybody wants inlines

Tackleberry41
10-26-2018, 02:11 PM
Shop near me for a long time would not take a side lock, period. No trades, no consignment. As most have learned they move really slow, so just took up space in the shop. His son took over and will allow consignments.

The lyman I had was really nice, just not something I had alot of use for. Got it cheap at a police auction for $90. I even knew people in a muzzle loader club. No those guys wanted high end guns. Low end people want inlines, so does not leave many buyers. Would think a gun that retails for $700 would sell for a better price. And mine was an old one with solid brass ramrod. $200 was best I could get.

It was funny I got lower offers for a complete TC hawken then just a barrel sells for on ebay. I looked a new barrel was $250, used $150. A stock was another $100. But in one piece was only worth $150, with the scope. Not like I'm out alot, only paid $75 for it.

Tasbay
10-26-2018, 02:40 PM
Cripes the prices you guys are quoting almost make me cry. Very few T/C sidelocks made it to New Zealand and now they sell for around $500USD in interesting condition. I picked up a Hawken 50cal flinter about 28yrs ago for $300nz and its still my favourite ball shooter.
If only someone would export all those rubbish & worthless T/C sidelocks that no one wants out of the U.S it would certainly help tidy up a few gun cupboards and pawn shops.

1Hawkeye
10-26-2018, 03:57 PM
Since S&W bought and gutted T/C Iv'e noticed that some folks are slowly starting to collect the older T/C's especially the seneca and cherokee models with a little bit of interest in the hawken, renegade, and big bore as well.

243winxb
10-26-2018, 05:07 PM
Came in kit and factory finished. Flink and cap.

139. Thompson-Center Arms Model Hawken Flintlock Rifle. Serial # 25170. .50 caliber black powder flintlock rifle. 29” octagon barrel with a very good bore. The blue finish on the barrel is in good to very good condition with a few dings and some spots of fine rust. The lock is case colored and in very good condition with fine rust at the pan. The brass butt plate, patch box, trigger guard, nose cap, and ferrules should polish out nicely. The walnut stock is in fair to good condition with small dings and scratches. Original sights. Action works fine. Includes the ramrod. This lot also includes an extra flintlock barrel in .45 caliber. The barrel is from a kit and is finished in a greyish patina. It also has the original sights and the ramrod. Sold For 280.00
http://www.horstauction.com/18septgun/images/139.JPG

Bob in St. Louis
10-29-2018, 05:30 PM
Did you buy it?
I picked a nice one up a few months back (I've got a thread on it) for $150.
My local farm and home store sells the unfinished kits for $250.

indian joe
10-29-2018, 07:31 PM
Thanks for the input everyone. It will be of great help negotiating a sale for this one.
FYI: I got a 50 cal Lyman a few weeks ago that came from the same person, new in the box or so it looks for $200. I thought I had won the lottery on that one.

Ken

If that Lyman is a Great Plains (am not real familiar with their models) then the TC at 125 is about right - might be comparable as shooters but not in the same paddock for looks.

Pressman
11-01-2018, 07:37 PM
I have not bought it, yet. Still working out a trade deal with a Winchester riot gun that I really don't need.
Ken

Bob in St. Louis
11-01-2018, 07:51 PM
haha!!
I can definitely understand that!

bob208
11-01-2018, 09:11 PM
I have one been carrying it for 2 years now trying to get $200 for it I have shot it. it shoots great with patched round balls have not tried maxis in it.

BPJONES
11-02-2018, 12:51 PM
A nice T/C Hawken or Lyman will fetch about $350.00 where I am. Price drops quickly if abused or pitted bore.

dondiego
11-03-2018, 11:10 AM
But we don't know where you are.

marlin39a
11-03-2018, 12:41 PM
The shops in my area try to get $300 - $400 for Hawkens and Renegades. Not many are seen though. Most have been neglected. I always look for the early ones.

BPJONES
11-04-2018, 05:46 PM
But we don't know where you are.

Manitoba, Canada

Pressman
05-03-2019, 10:27 PM
To follow up, I got the TC today. It was in the shop on consignment and the price was what the shop thought it was worth. What I didn't know was a fully stocked range box was included.
The gun has been shot and well cared for by looking at the metal. Looking at the stock is another matter. It has been slop coated with polyurethane. While it looks great at 20 feet, up close it is terrible. However there are no dents, scrapes or gouges in the wood so getting it to look presentable should not be too difficult.

But, best of all it is a shooter, and ready for some range time.

Now I need to quit buying guns and get back to buying reloading tools.

Ken

GL49
05-04-2019, 01:28 PM
......Now I need to quit buying guns ......

Ken

I almost fainted. I didn't know that was possible.:bigsmyl2:

Bob in St. Louis
05-04-2019, 11:37 PM
So.. "worst case", you've got some sanding and finishing in your future.
Not too bad.
I've not shot mine in many MONTHS.... but when I asked the family to have a "gun day" (and of course I put a bunch of yummy food on the smoker which helped them), loaded the backyard with all the guns, ammo, and etc... they finally came around and got some 'miles' on the T/C this afternoon.
Cleaning sucks though. But I do enjoy giving the final rubdown and polish.

1Hawkeye
05-05-2019, 12:37 AM
If the serial number starts with a K then it left the factory as a gun kit. Which could explain the polyurethane coating. My lgs put out a real early TC Hawken this afternoon with a powder horn and a sling in good shape for 200.00

Der Gebirgsjager
05-05-2019, 11:29 AM
I almost fainted. I didn't know that was possible.:bigsmyl2:

It's one of the usual 7-step self-help programs..........

SSGOldfart
05-05-2019, 11:54 AM
I've got over a dozen in the safe.I'll grab the T/C Hawkins 50cal 9 out of 10 times. Why they keep growing in numbers is beyond me???? I've not shot the inline in over 10 years now?.
You got a good deal,if you want your money back shot me a pm.I 've got room for a couple more.(See) lol.

quilbilly
05-05-2019, 01:33 PM
Mine is about the same age and is a wonderful PRB shooter easily getting under 2MOA for me when my eyes were better. I probably harvested 20 black-tail and mule deer with it.