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Southern Shooter
07-21-2018, 02:28 PM
I cast the Lee TL240-430-SWC using wheel weights and mixed-recycled boolit lead. 99% of the time I am using Alliant Powders like Unique and Power Pistol. I am puzzled, though. The boolit design is not a Keith SWC, it is not a Speer swagged SWC, and it is not a RNFP...Or, is it??? So, when loading this boolit in my .44 Special, which load/boolit design should I lean towards?

Thanks.
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tazman
07-21-2018, 03:33 PM
SWC, just like Lee describes it.

am44mag
07-21-2018, 03:38 PM
It's a SWC, and they shoot very well. It's my go to bullet for 44 mag.

Southern Shooter
07-21-2018, 03:49 PM
Yes, it is a SWC. But, so is the Keith design. And, as is the Speer LSCW. But, the loadings are quite different from each other.(see Alliant's page)

It is my understanding that the Speer boolit is of a softer lead. And, I would think that my wheel weight TLs would be harder. So, would the loading be closer to the Keith style? Do I need to consider the surface bearing area? Just trying to learn, here.
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Texas by God
07-21-2018, 04:45 PM
I load them as any other 240gr swc. I've used them in .44 spl, .44 mag, and 44-40 and they are great in all three. I cast them from coww and haven't pushed them past 1000 fs.

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tazman
07-21-2018, 04:50 PM
The bearing surface is the main culprit in the load differences. The more bearing surface, the more pressure and less powder. I am not certain where the Lee TL boolit would fall on the bearing surface range with all those tiny grease grooves. Just start with a starting load and work up until you are satisfied.

reddog81
07-21-2018, 05:01 PM
Typically the load data for swagged bullets is going to be for light loads. Using data for other cast 240 SWC's would be appropriate.

EMC45
07-21-2018, 05:03 PM
Load weight-wise for a 240gr. bullet. Seat to crimp over the top driving band or the first groove down. Start mild and progress from there. TL bullets shoot well.

Bookworm
07-21-2018, 08:17 PM
I load those to crimp in the top groove. I use SWC data, and generally start in the lower half of the data.
I've driven those Lee TL430-240SWC boolits to 1200 fps, 50/50 CWW/Pb. I use 45/45/10 (Recluse lube), and also use BLL. Both lubes work well.

They are my go-to boolits for my 44 Mags. Easy to cast up a bunch in a hurry, no sizing required, quick to lube, accurate.

JonB_in_Glencoe
07-21-2018, 10:34 PM
while I prefer traditional lube groove style boolits,
If I were to load some of those Lee TL boolits,
I'd use 240gr SWC data...try the Starting load and work up, as with most any other cast boolit load.