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rl69
07-02-2018, 06:43 AM
If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also….And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me….So likewise, whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be My disciple. LUKE 14:26-27, 33
If the closest relationships of a disciple’s life conflict with the claims of Jesus Christ, then our Lord requires instant obedience to Himself. Discipleship means personal, passionate devotion to a Person— our Lord Jesus Christ. There is a vast difference between devotion to a person and devotion to principles or to a cause. Our Lord never proclaimed a cause— He proclaimed personal devotion to Himself. To be a disciple is to be a devoted bondservant motivated by love for the Lord Jesus. Many of us who call ourselves Christians are not truly devoted to Jesus Christ. No one on earth has this passionate love for the Lord Jesus unless the Holy Spirit has given it to him. We may admire, respect, and revere Him, but we cannot love Him on our own. The only One who truly loves the Lord Jesus is the Holy Spirit, and it is He who has “poured out in our hearts” the very “love of God” (Romans 5:5). Whenever the Holy Spirit sees an opportunity to glorify Jesus through you, He will take your entire being and set you ablaze with glowing devotion to Jesus Christ.
The Christian life is a life characterized by true and spontaneous creativity. Consequently, a disciple is subject to the same charge that was leveled against Jesus Christ, namely, the charge of inconsistency. But Jesus Christ was always consistent in His relationship to God, and a Christian must be consistent in his relationship to the life of the Son of God in him, not consistent to strict, unyielding doctrines. People pour themselves into their own doctrines, and God has to blast them out of their preconceived ideas before they can become devoted to Jesus Christ

square butte
07-02-2018, 07:50 AM
Thank you for the scripture and word this morning - I have struggled with this one for years

USMC87
07-02-2018, 08:21 AM
Amen and thank you for a great lesson.

Blackwater
07-04-2018, 03:36 PM
This is an interesting, and in some ways, challenging, passage. Does it mean that we can own our things and love our family, provided NOTHING therein supercedes our love of Christ? This has long been my take on it, for I do not think Christ ever intended for us to actually hate our parents, etc. I believe it's merely a reminder to keep our perspective and priorities in the proper order.

Anyone got another interpretation? My understanding of the scriptures goes only so far, and I love to learn from others who have other insights.

Wayne Smith
07-05-2018, 07:46 AM
Depends on your parents. I had the blessing of Godly parents, our children do as well. I have clients who do literally hate their parents for what they have done and are doing.

I agree, for those of us who have Godly parents the issue is the relative importance of them vs God, but then they taught us that as well.