50 beo ar15

[odfairfaxsub]

Just made some noe 502-325 bullets last night from 2/3 wheel weight clip on and 1/3 range lead w 2 percent Tin

39.0, 40.0, 41.0, 42.0 gr imr 4227 w cci large pistol mag primers. 16 inch barrel. Powder coated 1 coat w harbor frieght red sized to .501.

Will provide results when I can

[Outer Rondacker]

Oh man you are just tossing gas on the fire. I just got my 50 and the only part I am waiting on is the brass to load up some ammo. Can you post up a few pics. I will be keeping track of your results as I think the 325 bullet should work well. If so I might have to find me one of these moulds.

[Gunslinger1911]

Haha, Maybe we can trade around some boolets when I get my MIHEc 385 hp

[Lloyd Smale]

Ive tried a few cast bullets (the mihec 385 in solid and hp forms was one of them) in mine. I got exceptable but it took a lot of load development to get there. when I did find a load we tried it in my buddys beo and its sprayed the same load all over the paper. the hp was kind of useless as to make it shoot even minute of deer it took at least 18bhn and basically turned it into a solid. Softer alloys wouldn't even keep 5 shots on the paper at a 100 yards. Also I worried a bit about plugging up the gas tube. Now I do a lot of pc so maybe I will give the cast another try. I kind of gave up on the cast and shoot reineer plated bullets in mine. The solid will shoot one inch 100 yard groups all day long and the hp 1 1/2. Accuracy was easy to find with them and there fairly cheap. I don't go out and shoot my beo 500 times in a session. It gets more like 500 rounds a year so buying a 1000 bullets lasts me a while. Ive taken deer with both bullets and both killed real well. the hp did quite a bit of damage though so youd want to avoid a shoulder shot. My first guess as to the accuracy is that the twist in the beo just doesn't stabilize heavier bullets all that well. Groups at 50 yards actually weren't bad. right around 2 inch but seemed to open up fast as the range got longer.

[Outer Rondacker]

I just loaded 10 rounds in the ladder test as well. The rounds will not chamber fully and once they do I can not open the bolt. Any suggestions?

[odfairfaxsub]

Well I worked today and tomorrow it’s raining. I’m making my beo bullets from 2 parts wheel weight and 1 part range lead/pure mix, powder coated and dropped from the tray into water to quench. I believe these will be hard enough as the plated bullets tend to be softer lead from what I heard but believe none of what you hear and half what you see..... I know for a fact I can get prob better than 1.5 inches at 50 yards and no more than 3 inches at 100 and I think I could possibly live w that. I’ll tune it in and out I have imr 4227 loaded up in my test shells but later I’ll work some up w h110 and then lil gun. I know I’ll find something that’ll work

[odfairfaxsub]

Oh I should post my twist rate loyd to help w data for those thinking about this mold or one like it

[Lloyd Smale]

stay away from lilgun. especially if your like me and do a mag dump once in a while. I tested mine with full power lilgun loads and loads with wc297 side by side and after 10 rounds as fast as I could shoot I could have about lit a cigarette of the barrel after the little gun rounds and my barrel was just a smoking! the 297 load doing the same would alow me to even touch the barrel quickly without burning my fingers. Lilgun burns HOT! Its why people tend to stay away from it even in mag handguns. Freedom arms wont even warrantee a gun that has forcing cone damage if lilgun was used. I use mostly 297 because I bought a bunch when it was cheap. 4227 and 110 would be a much better choice for you. Ive even had good luck with aa9 on the fast side and 1680 on the slow side. Id love to give you a bunch of loads but had a fire about 5 years ago and lost all my load data and since then ive used 297 about exclusively.

[odfairfaxsub]

So I shot factory rounds and they did super, tried my noe 400 gr mold (cast at 385 gr) and got 1 1/2 in group at 50 yards w reloader 7, then came the 325 gr mold


Horrible horrible horrible. I believe it’s because of powder choice. It’s not about plain based...... my 385 gr bullets were plain based and hardly have drive bands. I’m going to try h110 and lil gun and report back.

[odfairfaxsub]

Loaded a bunch of these w lil gun. Also got some of the same bullets but w gas checks loaded the same. Going to find out if gas checks make a diff or not and also if lil gun will work.

[Outer Rondacker]

Im keeping an eye for the results.

[mehavey]

See: https://thefiringline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6252605&postcount=11

[odfairfaxsub]

Oh thanks for the share man

[Outer Rondacker]

Yes thank you for sharing that. I was going to try and change mine out if I had issues. Now I know to check it if this happens.

[odfairfaxsub]

Well I did the thing I hate most. Start a thread about a idea and never even provide my findings

I remember..... the results were dismal. So bad it was tragic and tear jerk in nature. lil gun was bad and h110 was bad. Trust me I ran ladder loads and it was bad bad bad. My gun threw 1 foot groups as I recal. Gas checked design did better but feed issues maybe due to the width of the nose, maybe the coal, maybe a lot of things. I sold the mold to my dad and traded him all the bullets I made for pure lead bricks in exchange.

My bud likes the mold in his gun. He manipulated the coal to feed a little better than it was doing in my gun but however I use a more pointed design now and have zero feed issues. If I were you trying for a 50 mold buy one w a more so pointed nose and gas check doesn’t hurt.

[rockrat]

I use the Lee 440 gr in my Beo. over Re7. 2" groups at 100yds are the norm.

[odfairfaxsub]

My buddy like those 440s. He coats and gas checks them too. He did some figuring w out quickload which kinda scares me sometimes and he’s using lil gun. Reloader 7 seems to work good. Even w book data I don’t seem to have a complete burn of powder and primers indicate no pressure issues at all. W these heavy bullets reloader 7 is the cats meow.

[Jared]

I also use the Lee 440s over RL7 to get about 1550 FOS. My rifle feeds them without any trouble and will do 1.5 to 2” at 100 for 5 shots.

[odfairfaxsub]

Yeah. There’s a bunch out there loving that lee 440. He really cares for that mold a bit. Good price on it to. There was a guy using that mold, no gas check, powder coated, full power, and gets like accuracy that I get but w a mold that cost a 1/3rd and the economics of no check.