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2 dogs
04-21-2018, 04:28 PM
This design is set up to maximize the case capacity in the many .44 Special Ruger sixguns that are out there. That does not mean it will not excel in other applications. The most important thing to note here is the crimp to nose length of .410 inches. To determine if this bullet will fit in your revolver, measure your cylinder length with an empty case inserted to get the overall length. Subtract the case length from the overall length to get your available nose to crimp length. Remember, many of us have had great success with deep seating a cast bullet, or in other words, simply ignoring the crimp groove and instead simply crimping to suit. The Miha molds come with a set of pins for solids, a cup point, a small hollow point, and a large hollowpoint. Miha will set the prices when he is ready, but they are always a bargain.

Next, these group buys can take some time. I am confident however because of the great number of us who own and regularly shoot the 44 special that this one will take off. in the meantime, no whining please. Be patient. These buys close abruptly so don't dally.

Last, some guys want plain base, some gas checks, some 2 cavity, some 4 cavity molds. Miha normally tries to please everybody, but remember we really need at least 15 participants for each to make this a go. List your forum handle, your DISGUISED email address, and type of mold you would like to purchase. Payment is via pay pal. Delivery is by US mail.

Many of us have had great success with the 640 nose design. Remember, Elmer Keith had great success on small and medium game with his own 235 grain hollow point. This one should be even better.
NOTE #1 THIS BULLET WILL DROP AT .434"

NOTE #2 THIS BULLET WILL MAKE FOR A BAD *** 44 MAG BULLET AS WELL. DO NOT DISCOUNT THE GC OPTION. IF I CAN PUSH THE SOLID 429215 AT 1550 PLUS FPS, IM BETTING THIS ONE AT 235 GRAINS WILL BE CLOSE TO 1500 FPS.

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4 Cavity GC List

01. mhkilgore AT mac DOT com....1 mold
02. Tja6435 AT gmail....1 mold (.434")
03. markdafedman AT gmail DOT com.....1 mold
04. vfluckey AT midco DOT net....1 mold (.432")
05.
06. landshopkins AT aol DOT com....1 mold (.434")
07. farmbif AT aol DOT com....1 mold
08. bluewrench 75 AT g mail DOT com....1 mold (434")
09. Brad_Hartwick AT Hotmail DOT com....1 mold (432")
10. greggoryashley at yahoo dot com....1 mold (.434")

4 Cavity PB List

01. Schockley AT icloud DOT com....1 mold (requesting a .432" Dia)
02. shutupandjump AT yahoo DOT com....1 mold (.434") *Add a set of handles
03. namovlov AT bigpond DOT com....1 mold (432")
04. tja6435 AT gmail....1 mold (434")
05. krott AT tds DOT net.....1 mold (.432")
06.

2 Cavity Gas Check

01. anthonyb45 AT verizon DOT net....1 mold

Lee 6 Cavity Style Plain Base Mold List

01. j_bownes AT yahoo DOT com (requesting a .432 Dia)

2 Cavity PB List

01. pariswoodworking AT yahoo DOT com....1 mold
02. russpenny AT dodo DOT com DOT au....1 mold

6 cav Hitek solid
...
01. greg AT watch mans tower DOT com....1 mold

Nueces
04-21-2018, 05:20 PM
I'm in for a 4 cavity brass with gas check and all pins.

mhkilgore at mac dot com

Measurements show this will fit a Charter 44 and leave about 0.070" shy of the chamber mouth.

bluejay75
04-23-2018, 11:14 AM
Ask Miha if he will make this as a 6 cavity 'Lee Style". If so. I'm in for a j underscore bownes at yahoo dot com-.432- 6 Cavity PB.

2 dogs
04-25-2018, 03:34 PM
Ask Miha if he will make this as a 6 cavity 'Lee Style". If so. I'm in for a j underscore bownes at yahoo dot com-.432- 6 Cavity PB.

I added you to this list, I'm sure Miha can do a Lee style mold for you, however the mold description states the bullet will drop at .434" and you are requesting a .432". It remains to see if Miha can modify that.

Mal Paso
04-25-2018, 07:42 PM
What is the diameter of the nose just ahead of the forward drive band assuming .434"? Looks like the nose will be in the cylinder throat. With .434" too much sizing and the forward drive band will extend all the way to the ogive.

I would go for a 4c plain base HP if .432 is available. 429421 at g mail dot com

Is there a particular powder you have in mind?

Thanks!

Lefty SRH
04-27-2018, 05:23 PM
Im interested but Id like to see a .432” diameter also

2 dogs
05-01-2018, 08:16 PM
What is the diameter of the nose just ahead of the forward drive band assuming .434"? Looks like the nose will be in the cylinder throat. With .434" too much sizing and the forward drive band will extend all the way to the ogive.

I would go for a 4c plain base HP if .432 is available. 429421 at g mail dot com

Is there a particular powder you have in mind?

Thanks!

In reference to the diameter you ask about it won't touch a sizer forward of the crimp groove, it's tapered slightly and won't interfere with the cylinder throat.

For what I want, I will likely do 2400 or H110.

I can sign you up if you like and notate that you are requesting a .432" diameter. It is up to Miha to decide to make it or not.

2 dogs
05-01-2018, 08:17 PM
Im interested but Id like to see a .432” diameter also

Thank you for your reply. I can sign you up if you like, but as I mentioned above, it is up to Miha to decide if there is enough demand to make the .432" diameter molds.

bluejay75
05-01-2018, 08:39 PM
Thank you for your reply. I can sign you up if you like, but as I mentioned above, it is up to Miha to decide if there is enough demand to make the .432" diameter molds.

2 Dogs....Please verify that. Looks like the full diameter carries a few thou beyond the crimp groove. If it does not I can’t use this boolit. I wanted to crimp beyond the crimp groove with a collett crimp to get into the lands of a Handi Rifle notoriously long throat but maybe shorter than the crimp groove.

2 dogs
05-02-2018, 12:36 PM
Bluejay75, the full diameter does not carry up beyond the crimp groove. It is tapered slightly.

bluejay75
05-02-2018, 12:40 PM
Has this been run before? If it hasn’t...ask the designer if he can carry full diameter beyond the crimp groove.

Lefty SRH
05-02-2018, 10:03 PM
4 cavity, plain base, all the pins, 432” diameter
Schockley at icloud dot com

Mal Paso
05-02-2018, 10:10 PM
In reference to the diameter you ask about it won't touch a sizer forward of the crimp groove, it's tapered slightly and won't interfere with the cylinder throat.

For what I want, I will likely do 2400 or H110.

I can sign you up if you like and notate that you are requesting a .432" diameter. It is up to Miha to decide to make it or not.

I was hoping for a full size drive band ahead of the crimp groove. All my throats have been reamed and I like having the bullet in the throat for accuracy. Your bullet would also allow for high bulk powders. I'll watch this one for now and see how it develops. Lyman tapered the 429421 to make sure it would fit every gun. I got a noticeable increase in performance and accuracy switching to NOE's 429421 with 3 full size drive bands.

DougGuy
05-02-2018, 10:11 PM
It would be better to have the mold drop .434" then size and lube to .432" accordingly, rather than risk certain alloys dropping undersized.

2 dogs
05-03-2018, 01:58 PM
Has this been run before? If it hasn’t...ask the designer if he can carry full diameter beyond the crimp groove.

This is a very successful design that has been run before, just not on this venue. The curvature of the ogive relates to how the bullet will engage the rifling of the barrel. It is not presented exactly in the drawing.

In a single shot, you certainly can seat your bullet as far forward as your particular chamber allows and since there is no bullet jump due to recoil like a revolver would display you could largely ignore the location of the crimp groove again based on the dimensions of your particular chamber. Just because the design here was intended for a seperate purpose doesn't mean a careful and knowledgeable handloader couldn't squeeze a bit more versatility out of it. In particular, we have long since learned we could simply ignore the location of the crimp grooves on all of the 640 designs, especially in our 32s, and used them in all different length cylinders with no change in accuracy or other detrimental signs.

Beagle333
05-24-2018, 03:16 AM
4-cav HP PB .434

shutupandjump at yahoo dot com

2 dogs
05-25-2018, 02:08 PM
updated

6pt-sika
05-28-2018, 05:13 PM
I’m relatively intrested in 432 or 434 a brass two cavity GC HP mold and a brass 4 cavity GC Solid mold . However I’m NOT committing to anything that’s not priced etc !

6pt-sika
06-03-2018, 09:56 PM
Okay assuming a 4 cavity brass HP mold is 135 Euros before the discount I’d be up for a BRASS 4 cavity .432” GC HP with all the pins . Sika6pt05 at aol dot com my zip is 22960 for the tracking number .

6pt-sika
06-07-2018, 09:23 AM
Please remove me from this group buy Sika6pt05 at aol dot com. I was able to acquire a slightly used one . Thanks !

2 dogs
06-15-2018, 10:42 AM
OK, I had a bit of a rough week. Been out of town. Pipe busted in my ceiling. Lost my iphone. Get back to the computer and I get this private message:

Remove my name from the 44 Terminater group buy I got a used one from someone already . I posted for you to remove my name almost two weeks ago and you've failed to do so .

Craig

sika6pt05 at aol dot com

Craig, I count 8 days not 2 weeks. If that is all the courtesy you can extend me you can sign up for your group buys with someone else please.

Ramslammer
06-24-2018, 04:25 AM
2 Dogs
we all appreciate the efforts of all honcho's. Thanks from me as I've got a few you've run before. Please keep up the good work.
Juddy

ps if this goes to .432 i'll be interested

Good Cheer
06-27-2018, 09:23 PM
2dogs,
Question for you.
In the section between the curvature of the nose and the full diameter body, is this area's diameter designed to interact with the bore diameter in the Ruger .44? In the past I've found that having a blunter nose and tapered bore rider portion in front of the full diameter body worked well, hence my asking here. Used a rather largest lube groove to not go over on weight but also because "fletching" works, same as how it was found that minie balls with lube grooves could use a slower twist than without lube grooves.
I'd started drawings for a Ruger .44 Special design last week and oh, here's your Group Buy Discussion! So maybe I'll be in if the diameter can go up to cast .433-.434 and if the forward (possibly bore rider) portion dimensions are available.

Beagle333
06-28-2018, 09:04 PM
I'm #2 under the 4cav PB list. (shutupandjump) I'd like to add a set of handles, please.

Bump for interest!!! This is a really great mold!!

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/shutupandjump/cast%20boolits/58423734-F8B0-47ED-B6FF-8A34807639B9_zpsyptk0ts3.jpg

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/shutupandjump/cast%20boolits/B2D15C57-3E3F-43C0-AE70-CE36435912ED_zpsgdj8auo3.jpg

am44mag
06-28-2018, 09:57 PM
I know you said the price will be set later, but what's a ballpark estimate? $100? $150? Also, what kind of handles will the 4 cavity molds need? Lees?

For right now, I'm interested in the 4 cavity plain base mold.

email is paris woodworking at yahoo, though it might be better to just PM me.

2 dogs
06-29-2018, 03:52 PM
2 Dogs
we all appreciate the efforts of all honcho's. Thanks from me as I've got a few you've run before. Please keep up the good work.
Juddy

ps if this goes to .432 i'll be interested

We can put you on the list with a .432" diameter request. I would be surprised if you are the only person who has asked for such. The worst that could happen is Miha would say maybe next time....Let me know!

2 dogs
06-29-2018, 03:55 PM
2dogs,
Question for you.
In the section between the curvature of the nose and the full diameter body, is this area's diameter designed to interact with the bore diameter in the Ruger .44? In the past I've found that having a blunter nose and tapered bore rider portion in front of the full diameter body worked well, hence my asking here. Used a rather largest lube groove to not go over on weight but also because "fletching" works, same as how it was found that minie balls with lube grooves could use a slower twist than without lube grooves.
I'd started drawings for a Ruger .44 Special design last week and oh, here's your Group Buy Discussion! So maybe I'll be in if the diameter can go up to cast .433-.434 and if the forward (possibly bore rider) portion dimensions are available.

As I have pointed out before, those dimensions are the intellectual property of the designer. I am not at liberty to disclose them. I can tell you this is and has been a very accurate and successful bullet design already well proven. Let me know if you would like to be added to the list.

2 dogs
06-29-2018, 04:00 PM
I know you said the price will be set later, but what's a ballpark estimate? $100? $150? Also, what kind of handles will the 4 cavity molds need? Lees?

For right now, I'm interested in the 4 cavity plain base mold.

email is paris woodworking at yahoo, though it might be better to just PM me.

My last group buy 4 cavity mold was from Euros to dollars 137 and change. So it should somewhere in that ballpark I would think. Let me know if I can add you to the list.

Miha has handles but most people use Lee 6 cavity handles since they probably already have them on hand.

am44mag
06-29-2018, 06:34 PM
My last group buy 4 cavity mold was from Euros to dollars 137 and change. So it should somewhere in that ballpark I would think. Let me know if I can add you to the list.

Miha has handles but most people use Lee 6 cavity handles since they probably already have them on hand.

Did a little digging on some of the older group buys. Is a 2 cavity going to be made again? If so, add me for a plain base HP version of that!

Thanks.

Ramslammer
06-30-2018, 05:01 PM
G'day two dogs.please put me on for a 4 cav pb hp in .432
Thanks Juddy

2 dogs
06-30-2018, 07:20 PM
Did a little digging on some of the older group buys. Is a 2 cavity going to be made again? If so, add me for a plain base HP version of that!

Thanks.

I don't see that even if a single person wants a 2 cavity mold that Miha would not make it for that person. He has been outstanding to deal with. Don't worry. I will get you on the list and you will be happy. Thanks for your confidence. Do me the favor and be sure I got you on the list correctly. Please remember that English is not Miha's first language.

2 dogs
06-30-2018, 07:26 PM
G'day two dogs.please put me on for a 4 cav pb hp in .432
Thanks Juddy

Hi Juddy, I realize I am a bit of a dimwit and should by now have it memorized but do you think you could do me the kindness of reminding me just one more time what is your email address plz?

Ramslammer
07-01-2018, 04:17 PM
Sorry 2 Dogs



i thought of this on a plane ride last night. namovlov at bigpond dot com

2 dogs
07-02-2018, 06:06 PM
updated.

tja6435
07-23-2018, 07:42 PM
4 cavity hp gas check .434"

Tja6435 at gmail

2 dogs
07-24-2018, 05:09 PM
updated

Dr-Greg
08-05-2018, 09:41 PM
.432 6 cav Hitek solid if I can do that

greg ((att)) watch mans tower ((dott)) comm

zip: 65552

tja6435
08-06-2018, 09:30 PM
4 cavity HP PB .434"

tja6435 at gmail

3584ELK
08-10-2018, 02:26 PM
I'm also in for a 4 cavity brass with gas check and all pins. Email is markdafedman at g mail dot com.

Thank you for running this buy!

2 dogs
08-10-2018, 11:07 PM
4 cavity HP PB .434"

tja6435 over der at gmail

Please check your email on my list to be sure I got it correctly

2 dogs
08-10-2018, 11:11 PM
updated, thanks guys, please check my work and let me know if I can do anything to make this better.

Dr-Greg
08-10-2018, 11:35 PM
updated, thanks guys, please check my work and let me know if I can do anything to make this better.

I think you missed me? See post #37

tja6435
08-14-2018, 10:58 AM
Sorry, both of mine are just tja6435 at gmail

Thanks

thraxx
08-14-2018, 03:16 PM
this one keeps getting my attention, please put me down for:

vfluckey at midco dot net - 4-cav HP, GS

jaydub in wi
08-15-2018, 10:21 PM
I'm in. I would like 4 cav HP with all the pins. I'll take a .432 if available. A.434 would work too. krott AT tds DOT net

tja6435
08-16-2018, 09:41 PM
Gaining steam!

AnthonyB
08-16-2018, 09:51 PM
.434 two cavity GC if that is an option for anthony b (no spaces) 45 at verizon dot net. Four cavity if no two cavity option. MP has me in his contacts!
Tony

2 dogs
08-19-2018, 07:08 PM
Sorry, both of mine are just tja6435 at gmail

Thanks

Please check my work and let me know.

2 dogs
08-19-2018, 07:09 PM
this one keeps getting my attention, please put me down for:

vfluckey at midco dot net - 4-cav HP, GS

I have you down on the Gas Check side. Is that correct?

2 dogs
08-19-2018, 07:12 PM
I'm in. I would like 4 cav HP with all the pins. I'll take a .432 if available. A.434 would work too. krott AT tds DOT net

Jason, I tried to call but missed you buddy. Need to know plain base or gas check please Sir.

2 dogs
08-19-2018, 07:14 PM
Ok, I think I have it up to date. Please let me know.

Yes, it is gaining steam. Share the link. Everybody needs this mold!!

jaydub in wi
08-19-2018, 07:48 PM
Sorry about that. Make mine a PB please
Jason, I tried to call but missed you buddy. Need to know plain base or gas check please Sir.

Sent from my SM-G920R6 using Tapatalk

2 dogs
08-19-2018, 07:55 PM
updated

thraxx
08-20-2018, 10:20 AM
I have you down on the Gas Check side. Is that correct?

yes, gas check, please. I think I'd like the .432 as well

2 dogs
08-21-2018, 01:56 PM
yes, gas check, please. I think I'd like the .432 as well

updated

FLYCUTTER
08-29-2018, 12:35 PM
I am looking for a .432 nothing larger, 4 cavity brass GC w/all pins. RunderscoreKARKatATTdotNET Thank you 2 dog for running this buy. You have a thankless job my friend.

2 dogs
09-02-2018, 11:07 PM
Updated

russ4570
09-27-2018, 06:09 PM
russpenny at dodo dot com dot au
QTY 1x
2 Cav PB, All pins, 0.432
thankyou

Lefty SRH
10-06-2018, 10:09 PM
2dogs, it doesnt matter to me whether its .432” or .434” diameter.....I dont want to miss out on this mold. Ill size accordingly....
Lets get this thing rolling....sign up guys
Hats off to the mold group buy HONCHOS!

2 dogs
10-12-2018, 11:38 AM
Updated.

Lefty SRH
11-02-2018, 01:36 PM
Lets get some more guys signed up for this buy.

shell70634
11-02-2018, 07:32 PM
I'd like a 4 cavity with gas check and all pins. Email is landshopkins at aol dot com.
.434

Thanx Shelly

2 dogs
11-03-2018, 02:52 PM
updated

farmbif
11-12-2018, 02:16 PM
sign me up--- 4 cavity gas check all pins farmbif at aol dot com

looking forward to this one

2 dogs
11-15-2018, 03:05 PM
updated

Lefty SRH
12-11-2018, 02:35 PM
Back to the top

tradbear55
12-17-2018, 01:40 PM
I'd like a 4 cavity GC, .434 HP.
bluewrench 75 at g mail dot com
zip code 26034 for tracking

2 dogs
12-18-2018, 05:16 PM
updated

bpatterson84
12-25-2018, 08:18 PM
4 cav, 432, PB, pins, handles.

Is hitek an option? Would it still have the crimp groove?

rocpyro at gmail dot com

MAJ H
12-29-2018, 08:58 PM
4 cavity 432 GC HP all pins Brad_Hartwick AT Hotmail.com

2 dogs
01-04-2019, 08:47 PM
4 cav, 432, PB, pins, handles.

Is hitek an option? Would it still have the crimp groove?

rocpyro at gmail dot com

To answer your question, I would say if there was enough demand Miha would certainly build you one. I have one guy down for a hitek mold, I can add you with the request for a crimp groove and see what shakes out.

updated.

km101
01-13-2019, 05:35 PM
Ok, I’m not familiar with these buys so I will ask a dumb question. Is the Lee style 6 cavity mold available as a hollow point, or is it just flat point?

And are there any prices?

tja6435
01-13-2019, 09:21 PM
Ok, I’m not familiar with these buys so I will ask a dumb question. Is the Lee style 6 cavity mold available as a hollow point, or is it just flat point?

And are there any prices?

As a rule of thumb, Mihec doesn't do hollowpoint molds in aluminum, which the Lee style 6 cavity mold is. It's looks like it's a solid point, plain base only offering on that mold. But I may not be 100% on that.

2 dogs
01-15-2019, 07:06 PM
Ok, I’m not familiar with these buys so I will ask a dumb question. Is the Lee style 6 cavity mold available as a hollow point, or is it just flat point?

And are there any prices?

The six cavity molds are not available in HP, only the 2 and 4 cavity molds.

Price is somewhere in the 130 range for the 2 cavitys and 150ish (somebody correct me if you have better numbers) on the 4 cavity molds. Keep in mind, there are trade deals being made between countries around the world so price might be affected by tariffs.

tradbear55
01-26-2019, 08:04 PM
Bump it up.

big bore nut
02-05-2019, 08:33 PM
I'd like a 4 cavity brass GC HP with all pins .434. greggoryashley at yahoo dot com
Thanks, Big Bore Nut

2 dogs
02-06-2019, 11:18 PM
updated

Lefty SRH
02-25-2019, 07:59 AM
Bump, lets get this group buy moving

bpatterson84
02-28-2019, 01:35 PM
Looks like I'll be going in a different direction, If I could be removed from the list please and thank you. #6 on plain base

2 dogs
03-02-2019, 01:13 AM
Looks like I'll be going in a different direction, If I could be removed from the list please and thank you. #6 on plain base

Got you squared away Sir. Thank you.

Updated.

FLYCUTTER
03-26-2019, 11:48 PM
I'm sorry, but please remove me from this group buy.

2 dogs
04-03-2019, 02:36 PM
I'm sorry, but please remove me from this group buy.

It would help me alot if you would remember to tell me what email address I am removing to save me from having to sift through page after page to find out what I am editing out.

updated.

2 dogs
04-03-2019, 02:37 PM
This group buy is closed

tja6435
04-04-2019, 12:51 AM
Closed to go into que to run (hopefully)?

tja6435
04-11-2019, 12:19 PM
So I guess not?

tja6435
04-15-2019, 02:45 PM
FYI, the honcho sent me a PM letting me know that this has gone into que to be made. I was worried we didn’t get the minimum amount and it was closed and would not go into quite. I think this is a unique boolit and will shine in the .44 special and magnums

MiHec
04-16-2019, 04:46 AM
PayPals are out!
If you missing one, send me PM

Lefty SRH
04-16-2019, 06:32 AM
Invoiced paid, cant wait to see this bad boy!

tja6435
04-16-2019, 09:39 AM
Both invoices paid, thanks Miha!

Lefty SRH
04-16-2019, 10:32 AM
Both invoices paid, thanks Miha!

Both?

tradbear55
04-16-2019, 12:37 PM
Both?

He ordered 2 molds.
My payment went out this morning as well. Miha's molds are the best.

MiHec
04-18-2019, 05:05 AM
shipping numbers

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RH012253951SI 26034 Chester, WV US
RH012253965SI 35614 Athens, AL US
RH012253996SI 3691 Kiewa AU
RH012254020SI 54952 Menasha, WI US
RH012254033SI 78620 Dripping Springs, TX US
RH012254047SI 57110 Sioux Falls, SD US
RH012254064SI 70634 Deridder, LA US
RH012254237SI 60451 New Lenox, IL US
RH012254245SI AL 35503 JASPER US
RH012254254SI 62899 Xenia, IL US
RH012254268SI 25075 KARANY CZ
RH012274815SI WA 98271-8616 MARYSVILLE US
RH012274829SI 14895 NEW WELLSVILLE US


You can track them here

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Lefty SRH
04-18-2019, 04:22 PM
Awesome, Im gonna go sit by my mailbox

am44mag
04-19-2019, 01:54 AM
Just got my invoice paid. Looks like I'll have a new toy to play around with over the summer. :D

Beagle333
04-19-2019, 08:35 AM
Paid!!

tja6435
04-23-2019, 03:45 PM
Both of my molds arrived today in good shape. Absolute works of art, I wish I was able to fire up the pot and cast some boolits but that’s still a ways out yet.

Lefty SRH
04-30-2019, 06:34 AM
I will be picking mine up today from the post office.

am44mag
04-30-2019, 06:51 PM
Got mine a couple of days ago. It's an absolute work of art, and the bullets it spits out are fantastic. I'm in the process of testing some loads for my S&W 629 now.

Lefty SRH
04-30-2019, 09:21 PM
Got mine a couple of days ago. It's an absolute work of art, and the bullets it spits out are fantastic. I'm in the process of testing some loads for my S&W 629 now.

Id be interested in your results. I got this mold originally for my 44spl Flat Top. But since then I bought a M69. Im curious what both guns do with this bullet.

am44mag
05-01-2019, 02:49 AM
Id be interested in your results. I got this mold originally for my 44spl Flat Top. But since then I bought a M69. Im curious what both guns do with this bullet.

So far so good. I haven't been able to test all the different styles of hollow points the mold came with yet, but it's showing a lot of promise. My M629 seems to favor the large hollow point (mine casts right at 240 gr). It'll be the weekend before I can get back out to the reloading bench, but I'll keep y'all updated.

am44mag
05-13-2019, 01:58 AM
Sorry it took me awhile to get back to ya'll. It's been a crazy week. Had a big old oak fall and take out two fences, and had to take down a smaller dead tree so that it didn't do the same to my shop. Here's my results. The chrono results might be off, I'm not sure. It's been acting odd lately. They don't seem to be unrealistic, just a bit slower than I was expecting. I'd be interested in seeing what kind of results others are getting with this bullet.

Alliant 2400 seems to be a good powder for this bullet, no surprise there. All the different versions of this bullet seem to shoot about the same, but the Penta HP groups a bit looser for me. I'll have to play around with that one a bit more. I'm very happy with the accuracy of this bullet overall. Recoil is manageable, but you start to feel in in your bones after round #75. I was happy to see that my 629 had plenty of room in it's cylinder for this big beautiful bullet. I was worried that I might have to regulate this bullet to 44 special only. It also fit in my Rossi 92, though the flat nose version seems to like to hang up a bit. You have to work the lever with some authority to get them to feed right. Playing with the OAL would probably fix that. I haven't had a chance to test the expansion of these bullets, but I did try to catch one in some one gallon water jugs. I used the small hollow point, and it went through five of those jugs. It completely obliterated the first and second jugs, jugs three, four, and five had a decent sized hole in them. All I could find was a TINY little piece of the bullet in jug five. I didn't chrono that bullet, but based on a couple of others I did chrono, I'd say it was probably going between 1550-1600 FPS out of my Rossi's 20" barrel. These things are a hoot and a half to play around with. I could shoot water jugs with them all day long. They're kind of smokey, but that's part of the fun. It kind of makes you feel like a gunslinger in the old west when your gun lets out a puff of smoke with each shot. :D

As with any data you find online, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. I tested these loads in MY gun and took MY safety into MY own hands. If in doubt, DON'T USE IT. Find a safe load and work up from there. I'm posting this data only for the sake of passing on my results.

Gun used - S&W 629 - 6" barrel, Rossi 92 - 20" barrel

Bullet diameter - 0.430"

Lube - Simple Lube

Mould - Miha 44 Terminator - PLAIN BASE


44 Magnum load data --------------------------------------------OAL - 1.680"


BULLET-------------------POWDER---------VELOCITY (6")------VELOCITY (20")


Flat point (255gr) ---- 20.5gr (2400) --- 1241 FPS ---------- 1568 FPS

Cup (248gr) ---------- 19.5gr (2400) --- 1193 FPS ---------- 1550 FPS

Small HP (245gr)----- 20.0gr (2400) --- 1212 FPS

Penta HP (245gr)----- 20.0gr (2400) --- 1218 FPS

Large HP (240gr)----- 19.5gr (2400) --- 1215 FPS


I did not see any pressure signs up to 20.5gr of 2400, which was what I chose for my max load originally. You MIGHT be able to load these hotter (I'd use extreme caution in doing so), and I'll probably play around with doing that soon. I might play around with some other powders like Blue Dot and H110 too.

Beagle333
05-13-2019, 10:35 PM
I got mine today! Thanks for that information too, Aaron.