View Full Version : 9mm 147 TC group buy?
glockfan
02-20-2018, 10:46 PM
would it be something interesting for some of you guys?
i need a groovless .357 mold in 9mm,and i ended up with this repro of the hornady XTP i've modified to turn it into a little shorter TC at .610 AOL. of course this is intended as target boolit. after some verifications about the gravity center, the .610 AOL came as the correct lenght for the mod'ed design.
i thought that maybe if there's some interest in it we would be able to save a little via a group buy?
anyways here is the partial draw using some of TOM's canevas. the final look of the boolit on paper will be available after tom's return from vacation.
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505Reloader
02-20-2018, 10:58 PM
I’m interested
oteroman
02-21-2018, 01:03 AM
Interested
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krokodyl33
02-21-2018, 09:38 AM
I’m interested
ikarus1
02-22-2018, 11:32 AM
So it's basically a Hornady HAP in cast lead? I'm interested
jmort
02-22-2018, 11:45 AM
Looks good
Would like gas check option
If this is from Accutate, no need for a group buy
With a .25" meplat, this will hunt and kill most anything
Many forget, Lead Bullets Technology
glockfan
02-22-2018, 12:48 PM
Looks good
Would like gas check option
If this is from Accutate, no need for a group buy
With a .25" meplat, this will hunt and kill most anything
Many forget, Lead Bullets Technology
well,i need to speak with tom about an hypothetical ''group buy'''. does it save us some money if we have 10 guys in line for the same mold? that's what i need to know.
otherwise, this design will end up into its design catalog for anyone to purchase. for one i'm ordering a 6 cavities in brass (if it is possible).
so, a little update about this custom mold. i've been able to find some time to break it in ,and the result is over my expectations. this mold rock. on 400 boolits i've casted from COWW lead, ALL...yes,i say ALL boolits are at 146grs.variation is inside 1..yes 1 grain.and they all show .358 diameter.i'm not joking at all. maybe i must cast more with it to see some larger discrepancy,but all cavities drop virtually the same size-weight-diameter.
amazing.sweet bustin AMAZING,nothing less.
my good shooting buddy was with me,in fact we were both casting in stereo LOL...and he was completely stunned after numerous measurements.
anyways......i'm trying to upload some pics,but for some reasons the admin won't let me i don't know why.
Rafe Covington
02-22-2018, 10:03 PM
I would be interested also.
Rafe
glockfan
02-26-2018, 12:10 AM
i hope to get tom's approval for this design by the end of the week ,will let everyone know what can be
done .
as i'm a newbie here i don't know if the idea of a group buy involving accurate molds is futile
, i'd be very happy with only a 10% off and a free top punch ; perhaps it 'll happen with 15 of us in line for that mold ; i honestly don't know .
however i'm getting my mold done as soon as Tom approves it so the draw will be on Tom's catalog .
glockfan
03-02-2018, 02:41 PM
well,good news. the design is now ready to be turned into real molds.
a short story, my initial design was about to drop 153 grs boolits with coww give or take.
now, that boolit is , for me ,gonna see the core of its use in the ipsc-uspsa production-CO class,so i wanted to keep it at 147,then asked Tom to bring on the corrections needed to get the boolit to drop at around 147grs or a little lighter ; to achieve that, he shortened the ogive AND bearing to keep the original balance intact.
as for the group buy Tom explained that given the volume of work he experience, it doesn't
worth it ,and i perfectly understand that .
however,here's Tom's version of the hornady XTP he submitted.
all i know is i'm gonna get my order in for a 4 cavities brass.i'd like a 6 because this mold is going to see a lot of lead ,so a 6 would be very handy from this point of view ; anyhow a 4 is always better than a 2 haha.
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krokodyl33
03-03-2018, 10:41 AM
How do you make the biggest aol. What do you think?
glockfan
03-03-2018, 10:54 AM
How do you make the biggest aol. What do you think?
aol is now at .580 from .610 it was originally.
he reduced the distance between the base and shoulder of the ogive-bearing transition to .355 from .393 it was .
jmort
03-03-2018, 11:14 AM
Will be interested to see what the weight of a finished bullet is.
glockfan
03-03-2018, 07:32 PM
Will be interested to see what the weight of a finished bullet is.
it might hit 147 with COWW. quality molds may drop at +0.01....0.02.....but not supposed to drop undersize or lighter . extrapolating on the lead type i'm confident 147,but honestly 145 is as nice to me. not much changes regarding my typical load for a coated bullet. as long as there,s no notable variation from cavities to cavities,i'm good to go. this round is of course a target round. i don't expect it to be overly accurate past 30 yards, but i'm confident of one ragged hole at the typical distance shot in uspsa-ipsc. Tom tried to keep the balance of the round while removing 0.030 of the total aol.
RedStar Raider
04-09-2018, 10:18 PM
I'm interested in a 4 or 6 cavity brass mold.
karlB
04-11-2018, 01:41 PM
I'm interested too, diameter .356 would be nice
NYBushBro
04-17-2018, 10:00 PM
Sounds like a winner.... keep us informed of any updates.
glockfan
04-18-2018, 12:44 AM
hey guys......i've got my mold . a work of art if anything. due to some events i got only some time left to cast a hundred boolits with it...should have taken pics of my targets, but anyways i can say it's a really accurate boolit....enough for the matches anyways.
i hi tek'ed them and resized to .356 it gives the expected results. i loaded them over 3.5grs of VV320 at 1.130COAL .while i haven't chrono'ed the few i've shot ,i'm confident i'm hitting 125-130 PF.
for those interested the reference number on the accurate mold website is 35-145M.,..as mentionned earlier, there's no possible group buy with accurate mold .tom explained that it doesn't worth it for him,and i understand that .
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sukivel
04-18-2018, 04:53 AM
Any pics of a loaded round?
glockfan
04-18-2018, 09:22 AM
no. loaded a hundred only since i've got it. i'm busy with unexpected things right now....and when i'll restart casting, i might have to work on my 40S&W stock which is low right now. got my 40 mold from Tom also, still hasn't tried it.
Lakehouse2012
04-18-2018, 10:13 AM
no. loaded a hundred only since i've got it. i'm busy with unexpected things right now....and when i'll restart casting, i might have to work on my 40S&W stock which is low right now. got my 40 mold from Tom also, still hasn't tried it.Is this thread still a "mold manufacturer needed" or have your requirements been satisfied? I can't tell while reading this thread.
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glockfan
04-18-2018, 12:17 PM
Is this thread still a "mold manufacturer needed" or have your requirements been satisfied? I can't tell while reading this thread.
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no . it was originally meant as a tentative group buy . btw this mold is a mod'ed hornady XTP replica,and since i was set to get this mold done by accurate mold, i thought back then that a group buy would have been cool for a little savings , but it never came to fruitition in that regard. now the last few posts.....i think guys did not read the whole thread because they would had realize it isn't a group buy anymore, only a thread related to a mold i got done by Tom at accurate mold.
as for being happy about how it turned out,well yes, i am, nothing out of the ordinary,i mean i've shot a 100 only,but so far it meets my expectations as far as accuracy goes....not much to add about it really...
if the point is now that the thread serves nothing ,well,feel free to delete it.
glockfan
06-08-2018, 09:12 AM
ok guys .i've been able to find some time to break this mold in,so a little update on the results i've got with the accurate mold Tom sent me .
one word. amazing.
all 4 cavities drop at 146grs.i've cast 400 boolits with it to date,and i've measured them ALL. the 4 cavities weight 146grs with only less than 1 grs discrepancy.also,they all drop at .358 diameter (!!!) and 580 AOL .i know it seems incredible, but it is what it is.
my good shooting buddy couldn't believe his eyes. he's a lee user,and he told me he never seen a mold dropping such consistent boolits in ALL cavities.
here's some pics of the boolits . they're just a tad frosted, which is what i wanted, because i've learned on the forum that lightly frosted boolits shoot the best. not sure i'm correct,but seems the consensus , however , anyone , correct me if i'm wrong.
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i'm about to resize them at .357,and i will follow through with the results regarding accuracy of this boolit once i settle with a good load.
glockfan
06-08-2018, 09:16 AM
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