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BHuij
12-27-2017, 04:26 PM
I'm building my first AR-15 right now, it's basically a vanilla M4 with a 1:7 or 1:8 16" barrel. In addition to shooting j-word reloads for longer ranges, which I can do for about $0.20/round, I'd like to be able to make plinking rounds from lead for shooting at 100 yards and closer, because I can do those for like $0.13/round.

I'm aware that I want to aim for an FPS of around 1800 or so since I'm using water-dropped COWW alloy. Ideally a 6-cavity mold would be cool since I'd like to be able to quickly pump out a lot of plinking boolits. But the only .224 6-cavity mold I'm finding is a round nose flat point by Lee. I've heard rumors that one tends to have feeding errors.

Would I be better served with a different mold to avoid feeding errors? I also think maybe it makes sense to go for something a little heavier than 55 grains since my twist is going to be pretty fast.

Mold recommendations and all other wisdom welcome. Thanks in advance!

blue32
12-27-2017, 05:05 PM
I never had issues with j word spire points feeding in my AR. I doubt it would be a problem with cast but I've yet to run any in mine.

Mr_Sheesh
12-27-2017, 05:08 PM
The OP was asking if they needed to worry about bullets OTHER THAN Spire points having feeding problems, not if spire points would have failures to feed, though.

Moleman-
12-27-2017, 05:21 PM
Don't shoot 223 cast, but do shoot cast .358" and .430" Wide flat nosed bullets in straight walled cartridges out of ar15's which is harder to get to feed well as they're almost the same size as the chamber opening. Too soft and they can catch on the feed ramp/lugs, but as long as they make it past the lugs and at least hit the bevel on the chamber a straight walled wide flat nose will feed. Being a bottleneck you have a greater advantage since the chamber mouth is much bigger than a straight walled.

KrakenFan69
12-27-2017, 08:17 PM
I'm running the Arsenal 225-61 Elvis mold which is a flat point and have had no issues with it.

http://arsenalmolds.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=109


Kraken Fan #69

runfiverun
12-27-2017, 08:41 PM
the new LEE is a copy of the rcbs 055s it will feed in an ar rifle no problem.
it will also shoot in a 1-8 no problem.
use a good alloy and sort by weight and they will shoot past 2700 fps no problem.

dkf
12-28-2017, 01:16 AM
I can feed the HTC226-100 through my ARs just fine and that boolit has a flat point of .129". I only shoot .223 in ARs and I only use bullets 62gr or heavier.

mto7464
12-28-2017, 07:42 AM
the new LEE is a copy of the rcbs 055s it will feed in an ar rifle no problem.
it will also shoot in a 1-8 no problem.
use a good alloy and sort by weight and they will shoot past 2700 fps no problem.

So you have a link to that mold>?

Boolseye
12-28-2017, 09:21 AM
I have that boolit, never one ftf in my AR.

BHuij
12-28-2017, 11:17 AM
Fantastic feedback, thank you all. Sounds like I was getting worried about nothing.

Jack Stanley
12-28-2017, 12:24 PM
So you have a link to that mold>?
Found it at the top of the page

https://www.titanreloading.com/lee-precision-reloading-equipment/lee-molds/bullet-molds/22-cal/lee-6-cav-mold-c22555rf

Jack