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nagantguy
10-20-2017, 06:12 PM
Based on the number of threads in the truck and barn gun thread figured why not.

the perimeters are a bit different here ,water mud and rust are almost a given and the chance for loss is higher but you guys and ladies are a resourceful "out of the box" bunch the type who if something isn't readily available or cost effective you just make your own or improve upon what you already have.

Smoke4320
10-20-2017, 06:17 PM
Mini gun

MUSTANG
10-20-2017, 06:22 PM
When on the boat, I carry either:

Stainless S&W model 60

or

Stainless S&W model 65

or

Kimber Stainless 1911

Kraschenbirn
10-20-2017, 06:26 PM
3" SP101 with (2) shotloads and (3) JHPs in my tacklebox...wife has a "thing" about snakes and some of the backwaters we often canoe have an abundance of the critters.

Bill

Tom W.
10-20-2017, 06:53 PM
Mossberg makes the Mariner Shotgun, should that be what you need.

Or at least they did.....

waksupi
10-20-2017, 07:06 PM
I got a Hi Point .45 pistol specifically for this purpose. After having lost dozens of guns over board, I wanted a cheap one to lose next time.

historicfirearms
10-20-2017, 07:30 PM
I keep loosing all my guns in tragic boating accidents, so I would recommend not taking a gun near a boat at all if you want to keep it.

smokeywolf
10-20-2017, 07:44 PM
One that floats[smilie=1:.

Seriously, I'm with waksupi.

Petrol & Powder
10-20-2017, 08:05 PM
Need more criteria.

Handgun?

Rifle?

Shotgun?

Big/little boat ?

Fresh water/ Salt water ?

A friend of mine carries an old Glock 19 in a canoe or kayak on a river. Fairly rust resistant, lightweight and no big deal if lost.

In a former life in South Florida; you would be considered insane to go to sea without a pump action shotgun. There were maritime models made but you could do better if you made one yourself. A Remington 870 that has been sent to Robar for a NP3 finish on ALL of the steel parts, remains hard to beat.

The AR-7 has a lot of merit in back country around water.

If you might end up on shore in bear country, a stainless steel rifle in 45-70 may be a better option. Plus the ammo is a bit more water proof than shotgun shells (although I've seen some ingenious methods to make shotgun shells water resistant).

If your potential threat is human, the gun needs to be on you at all times. If your threat is on shore and maybe has four legs, a long gun is a better way to go.

In any event, rust is the first enemy and loss is the second.

WebMonkey
10-20-2017, 08:18 PM
Flare gun with sub caliber inserts.
Lanyard tied to a float.

Smokingun
10-20-2017, 08:25 PM
I'm not a Tupperware gun fan at all but I have a glock 30 for all the reasons you listed. It stays in my Jeep or gets thrown in the tackle box.

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MaryB
10-20-2017, 09:00 PM
HiPoint C9 9mm... $129 new...

Outpost75
10-20-2017, 09:13 PM
Back when I was regularly on RIBs we kept an M2HB forward, two M240s amidships and for OMG a Mk19 aft.

country gent
10-20-2017, 09:16 PM
2" bore punt gun mounted in the boat. Actually some thing reliable and rust resistant, I would also perfer a chrome lined bore for as much protection as possible. A the least a good pump gun finished in one of the bake on paints heavily sand blasted before application of the paint. Stainless is good or a plating over a rough surface. There are floats thatrelease when it hits the water so if its dropped over board chances are better for a recovery. maybe attached on front of forearm or under barrel. Offside of buttstock might work also. If a wood stock I would epoxy ( one of the bar top epoxies would be good here) finish all surfaces of it. A fiberglass or synthetic stock set would be even better.

Artful
10-20-2017, 09:17 PM
I don't go boating anymore - but what fit the bill in the past

.410 snake charmer
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bf/e1/b3/bfe1b323fdc759de87cb350c43227492.jpg

Stainless Remington 870 12 ga
http://basspro.scene7.com/is/image/BassPro/661992_10217919_is

Stainless Ruger Mini-14
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VFfsy7Bu7qo/UYqQLQFp-gI/AAAAAAAABpU/s2Uqb_YsRN4/s1600/Ruger-Mini-14-Tactical-15-500px.jpg

Ruger Stainless 357 Revolver
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/GP100-CYLINDER.jpg
Revolver because I don't want to slip on an ejected round/case

Important thing is rust resistance

If you are going up against something and you need to shoot an engine
I'd be wanting a stainless bolt action in at least 375 H&H Mag

Ruger / Savage whatever

runfiverun
10-20-2017, 09:32 PM
I hunted the great salt lake for 25 years.
one or two times I had to use the gun as a paddle.
ruger red labels are not the best gun for that.[smilie=1:

I had the best luck with Winchester black shadow type shotguns.
the superX-2, Browning gold, and the 1300 lasted the longest, I still have both of them [second X-2 now] the Browning got traded in [kind of miss that one]

for just lake fishing I like the Ruger MK-2 target, it has accounted for a few rock chucks and a Turkey from the boat.
it has a lanyard which I like, and it fits in the tackle box just fine.

M-Tecs
10-20-2017, 09:49 PM
Stainless Remington 870 12 ga
http://basspro.scene7.com/is/image/BassPro/661992_10217919_is


That SS would be nickel plating
https://www.remington.com/shotguns/pump-action/model-870/model-870-special-purpose-marine-magnum

Biggin
10-21-2017, 12:21 AM
+1 on the 870. Stainless would be nice but it is nickel plated.

starmac
10-21-2017, 12:27 AM
One that floats[smilie=1:.

Seriously, I'm with waksupi.

I actually bought one that floats just for that purpose, at the time they were put out as a charter arms ar7. It was one of the firearms that I can count on one hand that went down the road. The only thing about it that suited my needs was it floated.

MUSTANG
10-21-2017, 10:08 AM
Back when I was regularly on RIBs we kept an M2HB forward, two M240s amidships and for OMG a Mk19 aft.

Sounds like your underarmed; need to go back to the 106 recoils rifle to "Plus Up" that load.

quilbilly
10-21-2017, 01:19 PM
My Savage S/S 311's have been with me in duck boats and more recently hunting kayaks for the last 30 years. All of my hunting has been in saltwater (or at least brackish). There isn't much bluing left on either but they are never allowed to sit once I get home but are taken down and oiled thoroughly inside and out. Next week will be the first trip out since the ducks are in and the tides are right to launch the kayak.

runfiverun
10-21-2017, 02:09 PM
Bill.
those 311 and 312's are starting to be sought after if they are in good workable shape.
the very early 312's are actually very nice guns and were rebranded higher end 'plain janes'

starmac
10-21-2017, 02:31 PM
I received my first firearm, a 20 gauge single shot at 9 years old. The very first outing with my new shotgun was across the ship channel to some islands that had some pretty good rabbit hunting.
By the time we got back there was surface rust on my gun, I thought my brand new gun was ruined. lol
Dad had me wipe it down and all the rust came off very easily, leaving no trace. I learned that day that a blued gun is fine for even a saltwater boat gun, unless a guy just wants to leave it on the boat and not take care of it.

Quilbilly, if my old M99 savage is any indicator, it is my opinion the steel savage used back then (30's) was somewhat rust resistant. Mine had hardly any blueing on it when I got it in the 70's and even after several years on the gulf coast, she didn't rust.

texasnative46
10-21-2017, 02:40 PM
To All,

My preferred Boat Gun is a 12 gauge single-barrel. = IF you are stopped/questioned about having a firearm on board, tell the G&F officer/USCG that it's for shooting sharks.
(I once had a NICE 12-gauge pump "confiscated" by a G&F officer. = NEVER again.)

Having lost more than one NICE gun while afloat, I'll keep carrying my cheap single-barrel, as if it is stolen/lost over the side, I won't weep.
(Where it's lawful, I also wear a S&W 9mm Shield on my belt 24/365.)

yours, tex

PS Paul
10-21-2017, 04:25 PM
[QUOTE=Artful;4182919]I don't go boating anymore - but what fit the bill in the past

.410 snake charmer
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bf/e1/b3/bfe1b323fdc759de87cb350c43227492.jpg

Stainless Remington 870 12 ga
http://basspro.scene7.com/is/image/BassPro/661992_10217919_is

Stainless Ruger Mini-14
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VFfsy7Bu7qo/UYqQLQFp-gI/AAAAAAAABpU/s2Uqb_YsRN4/s1600/Ruger-Mini-14-Tactical-15-500px.jpg

Ruger Stainless 357 Revolver
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/GP100-CYLINDER.jpg
Revolver because I don't want to slip on an ejected round/case

Important thing is rust resistance

If you are going up against something and you need to shoot an engine
I'd be wanting a stainless bolt action in at least 375 H&H Mag

Ruger / Savage whatever[/QUOTE
I was GM in sporting goods in Seattle for a number of years. Leading up to halibut season each year, we couldn't get our hands on enough of those little snake charmer 410 single shots!! Brings back memories!!

Geezer in NH
10-21-2017, 05:14 PM
Come on the answer to all three questions is whatever is in my pocket at the time. Geeesh!

starmac
10-21-2017, 05:53 PM
Come on the answer to all three questions is whatever is in my pocket at the time. Geeesh!

What works for one may be totally useless to another, anything I could fit in my pocket would never work for any of the three questions.

merlin101
10-21-2017, 06:32 PM
I carry a old HR 9 shot .22 when canoeing, that way if I lose it no biggie.

tommag
10-22-2017, 01:39 AM
A good holster for my handgun. Next is a tethered. $49.95 Spanish mauser with a $34 6.5 Swede carbine barrel. If I lose the carbine, no great loss. If I lose whatever pistol I'm wearing, ... Well, I guess it's secondary, as I'm dead.

jaysouth
10-22-2017, 09:43 AM
My boat gun is an H&R topper in 20 ga. I removed all the oil with acetone and coat it with JPW once per year. On a stock cuff are two #4 buck and 3 71/2s. It is stowed in a case that looks like an expensive rod case.

quilbilly
10-22-2017, 01:19 PM
Bill.
those 311 and 312's are starting to be sought after if they are in good workable shape.
the very early 312's are actually very nice guns and were rebranded higher end 'plain janes'
I know. I almost hate to take my 20 ga 311 out onto the salt chuck. Almost. That 20 ga feels sooo.. good and makes so many ducks fall out of the sky that I hardly ever take out the 12 ga anymore unless the geese are hanging around the bay.

funnyjim014
10-22-2017, 01:40 PM
Old beat up single barrel with assortment of shells. Also a handgun with a lanyard loop attached to me. As far as a rifle.... idk. Old shoot able bolt? Sks seems to almost always work no mater how gunked up

rintinglen
10-24-2017, 05:29 AM
A model 66 has gone to sea with me a couple of times. I took a post 64 m-94 with me in a canoe but in a floating Gun Case That I bought from Cabelas some years ago. I think a stainless 22 with a lanyard might have some use

David2011
10-24-2017, 05:26 PM
To All,

My preferred Boat Gun is a 12 gauge single-barrel. = IF you are stopped/questioned about having a firearm on board, tell the G&F officer/USCG that it's for shooting sharks.
(I once had a NICE 12-gauge pump "confiscated" by a G&F officer. = NEVER again.)

Having lost more than one NICE gun while afloat, I'll keep carrying my cheap single-barrel, as if it is stolen/lost over the side, I won't weep.
(Where it's lawful, I also wear a S&W 9mm Shield on my belt 24/365.)

yours, tex

What was the reason for taking the shotgun? It's not illegal to cyarry guns on boats in Texas last I heard. I'm in Texas at the moment and have 20+ years of boating experience in Tx.

Snow ninja
10-25-2017, 12:02 AM
I got a Hi Point .45 pistol specifically for this purpose. After having lost dozens of guns over board, I wanted a cheap one to lose next time. that pretty much ensures you'll have it forever.

RPRNY
10-25-2017, 12:50 AM
5" is the minimum acceptable caliber in a boat gun, single turret. Normally, I'm a " go big or go home" advocate but the weight of 10" - 12" guns is an issue and the advances in naval ordnance make the 5" gun very versatile.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/US_Navy_070111-N-4515N-509_Guided_missile_destroyer_USS_Forest_Sherman_%2 8DDG_98%29_test_fires_its_five-inch_gun_on_the_bow_of_the_ship_during_training.jp g/1024px-US_Navy_070111-N-4515N-509_Guided_missile_destroyer_USS_Forest_Sherman_%2 8DDG_98%29_test_fires_its_five-inch_gun_on_the_bow_of_the_ship_during_training.jp g

jonp
10-25-2017, 04:55 PM
Hi Point. Clean it when you can, if it falls overboard you won't cry like you would with a SW Model 19

Kosh75287
10-25-2017, 06:03 PM
I think whatever you decide on, stainless or corrosion-resistant is your friend. For inland waters ,where ranges are likely to be shorter, any stainless S&W K-frame or Ruger medium frame would work. Have a local gunsmith attach a lanyard ring to it, and put a lanyard on it. If one can be found, a stainless steel side-by-side shotgun, 20 gauge or larger, with 22-24" barrels and exposed hammers would probably work. Put a lanyard on THAT one, also.

If you're looking for something to use in coastal waters, you are likely to need something with more reach. I'm not sure how to advise you on that. Maybe an SKS?

Rcmaveric
10-25-2017, 08:44 PM
I carrt my Highpoint C9 with me while boating and fishing here in the swamps. Darn gators.

MUSTANG
10-25-2017, 09:22 PM
5" is the minimum acceptable caliber in a boat gun, single turret. Normally, I'm a " go big or go home" advocate but the weight of 10" - 12" guns is an issue and the advances in naval ordnance make the 5" gun very versatile.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/US_Navy_070111-N-4515N-509_Guided_missile_destroyer_USS_Forest_Sherman_%2 8DDG_98%29_test_fires_its_five-inch_gun_on_the_bow_of_the_ship_during_training.jp g/1024px-US_Navy_070111-N-4515N-509_Guided_missile_destroyer_USS_Forest_Sherman_%2 8DDG_98%29_test_fires_its_five-inch_gun_on_the_bow_of_the_ship_during_training.jp g


All I got to say is OoooooooRahhhhh on your choice of ordnance tailored to your vehicle.

Lloyd Smale
10-26-2017, 06:28 AM
when I was in the coast guard our drug interdiction boats and teams had m16s and 870 pumps. None were stainless. Its not like your dragging them behind the boat. A blued 870 or ar15 wiped down with oil a couple times a year will work fine

charles1990
10-26-2017, 07:51 AM
The new Mossberg Shockwave with the short shell adapter. In a rust blocking bag, clipped to the center console. Doesn't even look like a gun.

Blackwater
10-26-2017, 09:58 PM
All sorts of answers to this question, according to what you expect to need/want to do with the gun. My favorite "river gun" is a Ruger Mk II std. model with the barrel chopped to @ 4" and with a Lyman shorty ramp and 1/16" white bead front sight. Rear should be adjustable, so you can sight it in very finely. A snake's head isn't very big, and that little 1/16" white bead is the best sight I've found (for my eyes at least) in that situation. The Mk II/III/I's are supremely reliable, and if the cut and crown job is good, VERY accurate to boot. It's flat and short, so it tucks away and stays out of the way until needed well, and can be carried either straight draw or crossdraw. I generally prefer a suitably sized nylon holster for its good protection of the gun, in the kidney position, with my knife & pliers just in front of it. That's worked very well for me on my beloved Ogeechee River, a rather small river that's full of all sorts of swamp dwelling critters, some of which can bite back, but very few of which are of much size.

If I feel the mood to carry something larger, I've carried revolvers a lot in either .357 or .44 mag, and have carried one of my 1911's a fair number of times. Being a reloader, the revolvers get preference because the autos tend to toss empties in the drink. But they work just fine as well, if they're accurate. A lot of the stuff one might want/need to shoot is very small, so accuracy is more than just something that's "nice to have." It's pretty essential.

Even with the .22's, revolver or auto, I've had a couple of occasion where a drunken "river rat" made some aggressive comments and moves on me, but when they saw the pistol, thought better of it. As the very old saying goes, "first, have a gun!" That turns a lot of potentially nasty situations into just another inconsequential encounter. Just watch out, and make SURE you see the snakes before they see YOU!

lksmith
10-29-2017, 10:57 AM
I'd have to agree on the Hi point. They are cheap and go bang every time (in my experience).
Hi point is about perfect as a Truck/boat/camp/whatever gun for when you want protection, but don't really want to take a chance on losing or ruining one of you nice guns. Also you can't beat their "unconditional, no questions asked" warranty.