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JBinMN
10-09-2017, 06:48 PM
I ran across this while I was looking around & had never seen it, or heard mention of it before. I am thinking that I am not the only one. Apparently made in 1718. Well before our founding fathers composed the Dec. of Independence & more importantly the U.S. Constitution. In Particular, the 2nd Amend. of that document.

So, when someone says that the founding fathers could not have imagined firearms other than muskets. you can mention this Puckle gun to them & say when it was made.

This shoots down that argument, IMO. (< pun intended as it fits... LOL )
;)

A pic of one of them:
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/aa/33/92/aa33926e8a4fb27cd39a4715346577e4.jpg

Anyway, here are a couple videos & a couple links to some articles for more info if ya choose to look them over...:

Short video showing one of the models firing(German I think):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nTqV7o2jE8

Longer video with a lot of info:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPC7KiYDshw

First article:
http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/The-Puckle-or-Defense-Gun/

2nd article ( wiki)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puckle_gun

Enjoy! I hope some of ya find it as interesting as I did.
:)

popper
10-09-2017, 08:09 PM
Actually, he made two, IIRC neither was sold. Most of what you see are reps. It's actually a knockoff of OP's ideas and didn't work very well. Yes, the idea has been around a while. IIRC the Chinese had a multi barreled bamboo fused 'repeater'.

JBinMN
10-09-2017, 08:22 PM
Well, the second longer video had a historian feller on there & he said that they did make 2 and they were sold to some Duke or Earl of some sort in England. The Brits Royal Navy turned him down for some reason.

The one in the video that the historian was showing was made up of original parts & some replica part. Don't speak German( or whatever it is) so I am not sure about the one they fire in the shorter video using the "match light(punk) method rather than the flintlock method. Maybe they were mssing the parts there... :???:...

Pucket himself fired one 63 times in 7 minutes somewhere to demonstrate it , averaging 9 shots per minute, which was well over anything like it in that era.

Don't know who the "OP" is that ya speak of, & what "ideas" ya mean that he might of made a "knock off", but this Puckle fella got a patent for this in England too.

[ I usually use "OP" as "O"-riginal "P"-ost(er), but I reckon you do not mean me anyway. ;) ]

I am not an authority on this stuff, I am just repeating what that historian feller said & what I read in the links.

Sure would like to know who did it before this Puckle, if someone made one before him. I am not really an "aficionado, but some of this stuff is kind of interesting in a trivia sort of way.
:)

Still thought it was pretty cool.
;)

KCSO
10-09-2017, 08:41 PM
Round bullets for Christians and square for turks!

abunaitoo
10-09-2017, 10:13 PM
Looks lie it would be a nice project to make.

M-Tecs
10-09-2017, 10:28 PM
Nice machine work in them .

M-Tecs
10-09-2017, 10:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFoF9WPVTKg

M-Tecs
10-09-2017, 10:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crW2W6nmLDs

M-Tecs
10-09-2017, 10:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbKDkOAi6Mo

JBinMN
10-10-2017, 02:28 AM
Thanks for sharing the videos, M-Tecs!

Very cool!
:)

Gonna go watch them.
:)

popper
10-10-2017, 09:57 AM
JB Looks like the first to use a single barrel with separate firing chambers - so really new idea? IIRC from a few years ago when I saw the vid, the carriage was flimsy, cost was high and reloading was slow. Plus the Brit military wasn't keen on 'new' stuff. Still an impressive machine that fires projectiles (machine gun?).

Boaz
10-10-2017, 01:27 PM
I love seeing these old guns , thanks for the post !

Artful
10-12-2017, 07:38 PM
Ferguson rapid fire breech loader from 1776, 7 shots per min.
https://www.forgottenweapons.com/ferguson-breechloading-flintlock-video/

https://videos.full30.com/bitmotive/public/full30/v1.0/videos/forgottenweapons/db2cfad70e58e93bff4872b858cf23a0/854x480.mp4

Beerd
10-13-2017, 07:50 AM
pass the coffee, please.
I read "Pucker" Gun :wink:
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