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psychbiker
09-14-2017, 04:17 PM
Looking for a mold for a s&w colt revolver and a 45 colt Henry rifle.

Would a H&G 34 be a good mold for both of these and also sized for 45 auto handguns too?

gwpercle
09-14-2017, 06:30 PM
The H&G #34 is an excellent choice for the 45 acp / 45 auto . It replicates the USGI ball profile.

For 45 Colt, that will depend on the revolver, the #34 is listed as .452 and some 45 Colts are .454 are larger. The revolver's throat and barrel dimensions will determine this.

The Henry rifle in 45 colt...I would not use it. I like a boolit with a flat meplate on the nose and a crimping groove that I can roll crimp into. With lever guns the primers sit on the boolit nose below it. A flat spot just sounds a whole lot safer than a round nose on that primer considering the magazine spring pressure plus the recoil when firing . I do not want a magazine full of rounds going off on the first shot.

I would get two moulds, The H&G #34 for 45 acp and a proper designed 45 Colt mould, reloading will be a whole lot simpler.

Gary

psychbiker
09-14-2017, 08:54 PM
Thanks for the post.

I have a good 200gr iron swc mold for 45acp already. It's heavy but a great mold. Think it's an old Lyman 452460. The flat point for colt bullets makes sense. It didn't even occur to me bout the points setting off the primers. I def want a 454 mold for
The safe side. Allows me to size down.

Kosh75287
09-14-2017, 09:47 PM
+1 on suitability for pistol & revolver but not for rifles with tubular magazines.

You might look at the Lee 230gr. Truncated Cone. It has a large meplat that won't act like a firing pin on a primer in front of it. It has a rounded shoulder, which is unlikely to cause feeding problems in either an automatic pistol or carbine. It has a ballistic coefficient somewhat inferior to that of a Lee 230-2R LRN, but better than the 200gr RNFP, and much better than the 200gr. LSWC. BCs usually don't mean much at defensive pistol ranges, but for hunting or long-range handgunning, it can make a diff.

Landy88
09-14-2017, 11:46 PM
You might look at the Lee 230gr. Truncated Cone. It has a large meplat that won't act like a firing pin on a primer in front of it. It has a rounded shoulder, which is unlikely to cause feeding problems in either an automatic pistol or carbine. It has a ballistic coefficient somewhat inferior to that of a Lee 230-2R LRN, but better than the 200gr RNFP, and much better than the 200gr. LSWC. BCs usually don't mean much at defensive pistol ranges, but for hunting or long-range handgunning, it can make a diff.

That's what I went with, given like advice here, for an ACP do it, almost, all and an LC useful, if not as comprehensively so as for the ACP, mold.

azrednek
09-15-2017, 04:25 AM
This is what I use in S&W and Ruger 45 revolvers and Rossi lever in 45 Colt. I use the plain base version but also have an older Lyman single holer with gas check I use for Ruger only loads.
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=41_443&products_id=3511

EDIT: can't vouch for it in a Henry but it flows easily in my Rossi

psychbiker
09-15-2017, 12:09 PM
How would this 230gr Keith mold do? $80 and a 5 cavort is pretty nice.

http://arsenalmolds.com/products?product_id=52&limit=99999999999

Victor N TN
09-15-2017, 05:52 PM
I've got this in a 6 cav H&G mold from before WW2. I LOVE IT...! I've used it since I started IPSC back in the early 1980s.

gwpercle
09-15-2017, 07:13 PM
Thanks for the post.

I have a good 200gr iron swc mold for 45acp already. It's heavy but a great mold. Think it's an old Lyman 452460. The flat point for colt bullets makes sense. It didn't even occur to me bout the points setting off the primers. I def want a 454 mold for
The safe side. Allows me to size down.
The 452460 saw me through 2 decades of NRA Bullseye shooting. I even won a first place trophy in a G.I. service pistol match with it ( my only first place trophy)....great boolit .
Gary

azrednek
09-17-2017, 03:55 AM
The 452460 saw me through 2 decades of NRA Bullseye shooting. I even won a first place trophy in a G.I. service pistol match with it ( my only first place trophy)....great boolit .
Gary

I've discovered over the years just about any 185-200gr cast bullet on top of 4.0-4.5 grs of Bullseye gives me the best shot to shot accuracy in any handgun of any caliber I've hand loaded for.