Lyman mold 512138 ????????????

[triggerhappy243]

Looking at am obsolete mold. It is a lyman 512138. Is this for 50 cal. Muzzle loaders or something else?

[square butte]

I believe that mold is for a 50-110/450 WCF ( 1886 Win ). Probably to heavy for a 50-95 Express (1876 Win. )

[Good Cheer]

triggerhappy, I use it paper patched in a .52 bore.

199570

[triggerhappy243]

ok, so it is too big for my renegade.

[Good Cheer]

Well, not necessarily...

Something that I've done with a fast twist .50
199586 Cute lil' booger aint it?

is to cast fifty cal rifle bullets and swage them through a .499 diameter and shoot them lubed. That smooshes things a whole bunch but if you're gonna shoot a lubed lead boolit and make it expand in the barrel from below bore diameter all the way up to groove diameter I figgered well it's getting smooshed any how. And as you can see by the looks of the shorty carbine I was thinking smack down penetration (very large east Texas rhinos) rather than finesse or long range accuracy. I achieved huge penetration power and the boolits were as accurate as I was.
I don't know how accurate the 512138 could be made in your Renegade but it might behave as a TC Maxi-Hunter.
199587
Maybe it could be sized down to allow the rear to load into the muzzle and the front bands to engrave on the rifling.

[Good Cheer]

Found four slugs that hadn't been patched. With soft lead they're .510 diameter, 427 grains, 0.870 long.
My down and dirty Greenhill says that they're too long for a 48" twist but hey, supposedly so are the Maxi-Hunters.
I'm tempted to size down these rascals, stick a fifty barrel on the Renegade and see if they make round holes or oblong ones. By the old TC manual the max loads for 460-470 grainer in a .50 is way much more than I'd want to put behind these.

[bedbugbilly]

go here and scroll down - it will tell you about the mold -

http://ps-2.kev009.com/ohlandl/Cast_Bullet/Ideal-Lyman_Molds/Ideal-Lyman_Mold_Descriptions.html

[Good Cheer]

Yo triggerhappy.
I just sized down these slugs to .501 diameter, went to go look for the .50 Renegade barrel... and I don't have one any more. Well, I thought I had a percussion fifty left. Uh duh...

Triggerhappy, if you'd like to see if these four rascals will not keyhole in your barrel (I'd suggest card wads and lots of FFg per the TC load manual), PM me a mailing address. There's one that got a little off center on the nose punch but three that sized up real nice with lanolin-olive oil-beeswax lube. That's all I've got but you're welcome to them. And if you'd rather have .499 diameter or just .499 diameter on the back half or 3/4's that can be done in five minutes. I don't have a .500 diameter die.
Any how, yell if you want to.

[triggerhappy243]

I do not have anything to size something that big. The lead I am using has a tint of antimony and a little difficult to get down the bore. But groups lights out at 100 yards.

[Good Cheer]

Okie dokie. I will try them in the shorty fifty fast twist.

[Good Cheer]

Well I'll be. Found the fifty Renegade barrel.
Don't never ever wanta hafta pack up and move again no more.

Checked a down and dirty twist calculator and came up with a ball park figure of 43" for the 512138. I don't think it really needs that much but I'd love to find out first hand!