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abunaitoo
04-13-2017, 10:54 PM
I could look it up, but I know guys here like to play the "What is it????" game.
I know it's a bench rest round.
Base is a 30.30 case.
Caliber is, I think, .22.
So what is it???????
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jsizemore
04-13-2017, 11:12 PM
219 Zipper or Donaldson Wasp
birch
04-13-2017, 11:40 PM
+1 for zipper
abunaitoo
04-14-2017, 01:14 AM
Must be 219 Donaldson.
I have RCBS dies for it, but no 219 Zipper dies.
Thanks.
bensonwe
04-14-2017, 05:35 AM
.225 win?
jsizemore
04-14-2017, 06:19 PM
Case length for the Zipper and 225 are both 1.938". The DW is 1.75. Shoulder diameter is .365" for the Zipper. Both the 225 and DW are .406" at the shoulder.
varmintpopper
04-14-2017, 07:41 PM
http://stevespages.com/jpg/cd219zipper.jpg
varmintpopper
04-14-2017, 07:44 PM
219 Wasp

http://stevespages.com/jpg/cd219wasp.jpg
jonp
04-15-2017, 09:13 AM
Shoulder too steep for zipper
SSGOldfart
04-15-2017, 12:14 PM
Maybe a Gray Reader wildcat ? Kinda looks like a 224Raptor or a 6mm. Raptor???
jrmartin1964
04-15-2017, 12:37 PM
Just comparing to the cartridges illustrated in P. O. Ackley's "Handbook for Shooters and Reloaders", it looks quite similar to these:
.219 Donaldson Wasp
.219 Zipper Improved (Ackley)
.22-.30/30 Improved (Ackley)
Tenbender
04-15-2017, 09:35 PM
219 Zipper Ackley Imp. I have made and shot thousands of them. It is a pain to make from 30 30 but about the only way to go today.
By the way. The 225 Winchester is the same . Only the rim is different.
Ken in Iowa
04-18-2017, 10:22 PM
I always told myself that I would buy a Donaldson Wasp if I encountered one in good old school configuration.

never found one...
Bloodman14
04-19-2017, 01:23 AM
Excuse the hijack, but I have a 30-40 Krag round that has been necked down to .22 something with a hemispherical-shaped shoulder. As soon as I find it, I will post pics. If anyone has any info on this wildcat(?), I would love to know.
Ken in Iowa
04-19-2017, 02:01 PM
Excuse the hijack, but I have a 30-40 Krag round that has been necked down to .22 something with a hemispherical-shaped shoulder. As soon as I find it, I will post pics. If anyone has any info on this wildcat(?), I would love to know.

pics would be good. There were some interesting wildcats based on Krag rifles and single shots using the Krag case.

I have cartridges of the World and Ackley's handbook, so we should be able to ID it with pics and measurements.
runfiverun
04-19-2017, 09:14 PM
I'd bet it's in Parkers book, or the hand loaders manual of cartridge conversions.



this one appears to be the wasp or the Ackleyed version.