22 bullet question

[Lloyd Smale]

whats a trick to stand them up to bake. I dread the thought of standing up a 1000 little bullets and then having them fall over! I tried the dump and bake with 38s and wasn't impressed. I get a much better and consistant finish with the bullet standing. If someone would make an aluminum plate with a bunch of little holes drilled in it to stand those little buggers up in id buy one in a second. thought about the wire screen method but it leaves bare spots where the bullet contact the wire and these are going to be 900fps plinkers.

[Randy C]

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k286/rd2560/6%20mm%20loading%20block%20640x360.jpg
I have a nice aluminum block from clodhopper it was a gift we trade back and forth on toys for shooting. I will post a PIC in a bit.
I don't know if something like this would work for coating bullets

[Littlewolf]

find some 1/8" alum plate and go to the local welding / machine supply store and get a drill bit a couple thousandths larger than the gascheck shank and get some sharp point jewelers crosslock tweezers
drill a managable patern of holes in the plate use the tweezers to get those lil buggers into the holes

[Bzcraig]

I've not had a problem with 55gr 22's falling over. I'll do some 70gr this weekend.....,

[Lloyd Smale]

twice now ive dumped a tray of 38 bullets over. Id hate to think what these club hands would do with 22s!!
I've not had a problem with 55gr 22's falling over. I'll do some 70gr this weekend.....,

[Lloyd Smale]

id take a few of them if hed make them at a reasonable price!!! they wouldn't have to be near that thick.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k286/rd2560/6%20mm%20loading%20block%20640x360.jpg
I have a nice aluminum block from clodhopper it was a gift we trade back and forth on toys for shooting. I will post a PIC in a bit.
I don't know if something like this would work for coating bullets

[6bg6ga]

Looks pricy.

Some guy on ebay is selling a smaller version of the tray above and thinks its gold plated.

Almost makes a guy want to purchase a $1500 mill with a nice vice and several mill cutters. Lets see...just paid $1 a lb for some scrap aluminum.
About 15 minutes or less work to produce the above pictured item. They ought to sell for $50. :kidding:

[Lloyd Smale]

yup id be willing to pony up 20 bucks for one if they held more bullets. time a guy bought enough to do a batch of bullets hed be into what it would cost to buy 2000 bullets. Someone here needs to make them that hold about 200 bullets at a time

[6bg6ga]

yup id be willing to pony up 20 bucks for one if they held more bullets. time a guy bought enough to do a batch of bullets hed be into what it would cost to buy 2000 bullets. Someone here needs to make them that hold about 200 bullets at a time

That would probably be a reasonable price for the scrap aluminum and minimum time to machine it. If I just had that mill in my garage Lloyd I'd send you one.

[Ia.redneck]

Hey Lloyd, go to Amazon.com and search for "Pratipad".
Its a silicone potholder pad with little hex shapes on the surface, and they hold a 22 cal bullet upright perfectly.
I got the idea from someone here, works great! You can bake them at 400 degrees with no damage.
You can get a 2 pack for $15

[KSUJedi]

Shameless plug/reposting of the silicone trivets/potholders la.redneck is talking about with some picks of them loaded up with pills for baking.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?p=3508801

[Lloyd Smale]

thanks I did some searching and ordered 6 different silicone trivets to try.
Shameless plug/reposting of the silicone trivets/potholders la.redneck is talking about with some picks of them loaded up with pills for baking.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?p=3508801

[Phantom30]

Bought a couple of those 7 inch square silicon trivets on Amazon, Going to try on my new 80gr 224 arsenal mold drops

[igolfat8]

Why not use HiTek coating then you don't have to worry about standing them up!

[Lloyd Smale]

well the silicone trays came. the hex ones fit 22 bullets perfectly but theres no way I can take tumbled bullets with coating on them and stand them up in them holes that close together. I ended up with 3 that had bigger square holes that I could actually put bullets in but they fell over easily. I guess the hex ones would work great if you were going to stand bullets up and spray them. but there pretty much useless to me.

Smoke suggested just dumping them so I tumbled them for only 10 minutes to get a light coat. Dumped them on non stick foil and baked them. Took them out and air cooled them and repeated it then water dropped it. They came out as good as any bullet ive stood up.

[farmerjim]

I use the silicone potholders from amazon. I use tweezers to stand up the boolits in every other hole in a row, and staggered between rows. Approximately 250 to the tray takes about 12 minutes per tray to stand them up.

[KSUJedi]

Ditto, I tumble, use tweezers to stand up in holes and space them a few holes and 1 row apart to give me room to use the tweezers, still fits quite a few boolits on a trivet. Don't try to load up every hole, just use another trivet, can process quite a few relatively quickly like that. Placing into hole will likely slightly mar the coat on the base, but that gets covered with gas check in subsequent sizing. If shooting plain base/no gas check, admittedly this may not give perfect base coating.

[Ballistics in Scotland]

You can get perforated stainless or aluminium sheet on eBay, and stand the bullets in the holes, nose down. That will leave a little ring around the ogive, but I can't see that doing any harm. ⅛ and ¼in. holes are a lot commoner than 3/16in., which would be ideal for .22 bullets if you can get it in a small quantity. There must be kitchen trays, strainers etc. too, which would let you out of propping a sheet up on something.

[Moonie]

I saw the silicone mats discussed above and as I've got a new 22 Nosler upper to feed I dug out an old NOE 60gr mold I've not used in years and decided that perhaps I should give it some love. I bought the mold to feed a sons AR-15 in 5.56 but never got around to it and he since sold the upper. Hopefully it will be a fun project.

[Smk SHoe]

Not to try to hijack the thread, but a guy on ebay sell the aluminum loading blocks for 20$ each. Holds 50 rounds. beautiful machine work. I have 5 of them. 3- 223 size case and 2 for 308 win sized cases. great loading blocks.

[Smk SHoe]

long range accuracy (http://stores.ebay.com/long-range-accuracy?_trksid=p2047675.l2563) is his ebay store for the loading blocks. I may send him a message and see if he could make a block with a hole just big enough and deep enough to hold a .223 bullet to bake with out falling over

[buggybuilder]

I PC with silicone mats. But when I lube bullets, I take 4 primer trays and glue them so they are two trays wide and two trays high. Drill every other primer hole on the top trays. This is good for 100 bullets. Place bullets inverted into primer trays. Hope this is clear 'cause I can't post pics....but it rreally works well for me.

[tankgunner59]

I have done this. I bought a package of assorted tweezers at HF for cheap that has a pair of crosslock tweezers in it. Took a piece of roof flashing bent the sides down to make legs, then I drilled holes in the flashing just large enough for the gas check shank. The tray fits into the pan that came with my toaster oven. After baking the boolits and cooling just pick up each one with the tweezers and put them in your bullet box. The only place the PC doesn't adhere is a line on the GC shank, I crimp on a GC and no problem. This works great. :-)

[bluejay75]

JB weld and 22 lr cases. Draw a grid in a the pan that you plan on using. JB weld the cases to pan. I go nose down and only powdercoat in clear. Works with 9mm cases for 38 caliber and 40 cases for my 44s.

BREAK.....

But I rarely use this method now that I understand flowout.

1. I use a very fine mesh strainer (comes in sets of 3 from Bed Bath and Beyond, use 2 smaller ones donate the other to the kitchen).
https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/stainless-steel-mesh-colanders-set-of-3/1011508006?categoryId=12106
2. Bake at 450 for the first 5-7 minutes
3. Shake the basket in between to dislodge the flowout settled in the bottom and repositions the bullets.
4. Then set at 400 for an additional 15 minutes.

This gives me nearly 100 percent coverage with very few spots or overcoats.

[popper]

Lloyd, try HiTek at that fps. 2 thin coats and you can just dry & cook on a mesh tray. WD the last coat or use hard ally. I got good results in 30/30 @ 1250 170gr & unique. IMO the coating was too thick, first try.

[alamogunr]

I don't powder coat so this suggestion may not be practical. Could a tray be fabricated using 1/4" hardware cloth for dividers? Even using alternating openings would accommodate a lot of boolits.

[Motor]

I've not had a problem with 55gr 22's falling over. I'll do some 70gr this weekend.....,

You absolutely have to post a photo. I cast some today. There is no way I was going to even attempt to stand them on their bases to PC. You must be using a spray gun.

Motor

[Motor]

I don't powder coat so this suggestion may not be practical. Could a tray be fabricated using 1/4" hardware cloth for dividers? Even using alternating openings would accommodate a lot of boolits.

Yes absolutely. Cut to size then bend the edges 90' to create a short standing rack.

Motor