Boy Howdy! I'm gonna go into the salt bidness.

[bubba.50]

we got just enough snow to get the ground covered & V-dot laid down so much brine on I-81 the road looks like it was painted or white-washed. gonna get into the salt bidness & get a contract with the state.

[Bohica793]

You'll have to wait for the Governor to run out of relatives and in-laws first.

[Eddie Southgate]

What you will really likely have to wait for is to get paid !

Eddie

[Skunk1]

Beet juice. That's what I should get into. They pretreat the roads around here as soon as snow or ice is mentioned.

[dragon813gt]

we got just enough snow to get the ground covered & V-dot laid down so much brine on I-81 the road looks like it was painted or white-washed. gonna get into the salt bidness & get a contract with the state.

Be glad they did. PennDot did not pretreat the Turnpike today. We got some strong squalls that dumped enough snow quickly the make a mess of the roads. Lots of people pulled off the side of the road due to the conditions. Storms weren't predicted so they didn't prepare.

[starmac]

I do not think salt or beet juice would have helped in my case today. The wind came up while I was going in to load. I jokongly told the logger he might have to send the skider out with me to bust drifts as they were a foot high or so 10 minutes after he had plowed. Once I was loaded it wasn't too bad till I got near the top and then it was 4 foot of drift> I called him on the radio and he ask if he could get around me and handle it with the plow on the pickup. I told him I had to back all the way back off the mountain before he could get around, and I couldn't see how far the drift was.
It turned out to be about a 1/4 mile for the big one, so then had to wait on the skidder to get there. lol
Then I got stuck 6 miles out and tore up a chain. GRRRR

[runfiverun]

heck starmac just swing by a couple of frack sites.
you should be able to pick up a half dozen single or dual tire chains, a couple of 8lb. hammers and 1-2 stop bars no problem.

[starmac]

I doubt they have chains I could use, but they might. lol It is a fer piece to a frack site from here though.
I have extras, and I will replace the busted crosslinks on this one, even though the rails have seen better days.

[NavyVet1959]

What is this "snow" stuff of which thou dost speak?

[starmac]

We put 6 to 12 inches of it fresh on the log road last night, so I could better see the moose tracks and see where the wolves were working, it is nice when you are the first one on the road after a fresh snow.

[runfiverun]

it ain't so nice when the idiot behind you ain't got the sense to stay in your tire tracks and you can't get back out.

[OS OK]

Do you guys carry a survival pack with food or blankets or such for when there is a possibility of getting stuck somewhere between cities or out in the boonies?
I live on the snow line in the Sierra Nevada's, it's great to see every year when a 1 foot dusting appears but the novelty soon wears off and I'm glad to see it gone.

[waksupi]

Do you guys carry a survival pack with food or blankets or such for when there is a possibility of getting stuck somewhere between cities or out in the boonies?


All year round.

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

we got just enough snow to get the ground covered & V-dot laid down so much brine on I-81 the road looks like it was painted or white-washed. gonna get into the salt bidness & get a contract with the state.
You'll have to make a trip to Cleveland...to a salt mine...under Lake Erie.
I just recently learned of this place, and never would have dreamed about 1/4 of the US's road salt comes from a underground salt mine under Lake Erie...to me that is just about the craziest thing I've ever heard of.

https://www.wired.com/2016/05/venture-surreal-salt-mine-2000-feet-lake-erie/


EACH YEAR, CITIES throughout the US scatter 19.5 million tons of salt on icy, snowy roads. Few people give it any thought beyond complaining about the stuff turning their car into a rusty heap, or pause to wonder where it all comes from. A lot of that salt is mined in Ohio, pulled from the remains of massive inland sea that dried up more than 400 million years ago.
This vast deposit lies 2,000 feet below Lake Erie. Enormous machines drill into great veins of halite, extracting huge chunks that other enormous machines crush into bucketloads of salt that ascend on conveyors. It is a strange world of long tunnels and cavernous spaces illuminated by headlamps and floodlights. “It’s so beautiful,” says photographer Ricky Rhodes (http://rickyrhodes.com/morton-salt-mine). “It’s an industrial process, so most people don’t think of it that way. But it’s a beautiful thing most people don’t get to see.”


Ohio produces 5 million tons of rock salt every year, much of it mined by Morton Salt. The company opened a mine in Fairport Harbor, 30 miles east of Cleveland, in 1958. Today the mine employs about 170 people, 110 of whom work underground, pulling 1.3 million tons of salt from the earth each year. Most of it is used to de-ice roads.
Morton Salt’s parent company, K+S, invested $10 million in the operation not long ago and invited Rhodes to photograph the mine for the company newsletter. He embraced an opportunity to visit a place few even know exists. “A lot of people locally don’t even know that this is a thing in Cleveland,” he says.

More info at link...

[HABCAN]

What waksupi said: it's just common sense! ALL YEAR 'ROUND.

[runfiverun]

my day to day work bag generally had a change of clothes, 3-4 cans of food, water/soda, medicine, extra gloves, a book, 3-4 packs of smokes, and some extra spare things like tools and fuses and such.

[funnyjim014]

Here in Buffalo our roads are white with salt for months a year. The huge amount of salt we go threw is staggering. This is a salt barn. Each town has one and will be empty each spring. 186704

[OS OK]

You'll have to make a trip to Cleveland...to a salt mine...under Lake Erie.
I just recently learned of this place, and never would have dreamed about 1/4 of the US's road salt comes from a underground salt mine under Lake Erie...to me that is just about the craziest thing I've ever heard of.

https://www.wired.com/2016/05/venture-surreal-salt-mine-2000-feet-lake-erie/

Reminds me of one that used to be under a lake in Louisiana . . . Lake Peigneur sinkhole disaster - YouTube (http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrSbmdx_5BYvQcAOFZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEycDB2aXZ rBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDVUkyQzNfMQRzZWMDc3I-/RV=2/RE=1485926385/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.youtube.com%2fwatch%3fv%3dddlr GkeOzsI/RK=0/RS=BNE9DUtBd4IJNKrA1GAqCySGNZk-)

[kingstrider]

Living down south I tend to forget it still snows in other places. I sure don't miss it.

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

Reminds me of one that used to be under a lake in Louisiana . . . Lake Peigneur sinkhole disaster - YouTube (http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrSbmdx_5BYvQcAOFZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEycDB2aXZ rBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDVUkyQzNfMQRzZWMDc3I-/RV=2/RE=1485926385/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.youtube.com%2fwatch%3fv%3dddlr GkeOzsI/RK=0/RS=BNE9DUtBd4IJNKrA1GAqCySGNZk-)
I've seen a Doc on PBS about that...Crazy stuff.

[JWT]

Huge salt mine under Detroit. They used to run tours 40yrs ago. Now it's used for storage. I have been told there is virtually 0% humidity.

[starmac]

Well guys, I am glad it snows. There is no possible way to even get to where we log until the ground freezes hard enough to hold a load up, then with no snow it is so rough it beats seriously on a truck even at 10 mph. lol

The wind blew on the mountain again last night, it took the skidder over 3 hours this morning to punch an 8 foot path through a mile or so of 5 foot drift. I wound up being the only truck today, and they originally told me to turn around and go back empty.

[leadman]

I got to see snow on the mountains just north of where I live in Phoenix, Az. The ski resort in Flagstaff got 8' of snow last week. I only have to get in the snow if I want to. Does make for a nice change sometimes though.
It was in the mid 70s here today. This is the good part of the year.

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16299144_10158221786700192_6343864374777138486_n.j pg?oh=106dde1363392089b0e3b1c4c5b37715&oe=58FF4FCE

[starmac]

Leadman, do you ever go up to Crown King?? I always liked going up there and escapeing the heat, but probably hard to get to if they have much snow.