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44man
01-18-2017, 03:49 PM
Have to shoot yet. The RD 265 at .433" was hard to chamber but sized at .431" they fit good. I was sure I had a .432" but not. I swore I had all sizes. We will shoot tomorrow with AA2230, 5744 and 4198. Just below max loads.
My friend has factory loads and the bullets are all different.
I hope the RD will shoot.
OOPs, it is a .444. I can't change the heading.

jedomejd
01-18-2017, 05:55 PM
44man I'm about to start loading for a Marlin1894 in 44mag. Are there any bullet types I should avoid or any I should try first. Will the loads I have for my SBH even be close to good in the rifle, I use H110 in the SBH.

44man
01-19-2017, 10:52 AM
I never got the .44 to shoot and do not know if the .444 will until we shoot today.
I will come back later.

44man
01-19-2017, 06:24 PM
We shot today so go to the cast boolits forum to see.

17nut
01-19-2017, 07:12 PM
44man I'm about to start loading for a Marlin1894 in 44mag. Are there any bullet types I should avoid or any I should try first. Will the loads I have for my SBH even be close to good in the rifle, I use H110 in the SBH.

It depends!

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm153/Chickenthief/Skydning/Marlin/Nominal%20Bore%20Dimensions%20Doc1%20small_zpskfqu gtfi.jpg (http://s295.photobucket.com/user/Chickenthief/media/Skydning/Marlin/Nominal%20Bore%20Dimensions%20Doc1%20small_zpskfqu gtfi.jpg.html)
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm153/Chickenthief/Skydning/Marlin/Bore%20Dimensions%20Doc1%20small_zpsyiez020c.jpg (http://s295.photobucket.com/user/Chickenthief/media/Skydning/Marlin/Bore%20Dimensions%20Doc1%20small_zpsyiez020c.jpg.h tml)

As you can see the MG barrels run big and that is why the Marlins have a bad reputation for not shooting cast worth a hoot.
My Marlin 94 44MAG 1972 gun on the other hand slugs .4295" so i'm golden ;-)
The RD moulds are made to accomodate the Marlins and my 240gr casts in the .433-.434" range.

NOE does .434" molds:
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=37&osCsid=har3ds25enm2h2qlehftqir0k5

And Swede even make most of the RD designs too:
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=71_81

longbow
01-19-2017, 09:09 PM
Yes! Avoid:

- SWC designs ~ apparently some Marlins don't mind them but mine did... didn't feed worth a hoot!
- watch OAL as Marlins do not like anything over factory OAL unless you modify the cartridge stop
- slug your barrel but you will likely need moulds that cast at no less than 0.433" (that large groove diameter is a SAAMI spec, but who knows why?)
- don't use boolits over about 270 gr. in 1:38" twist barrels

I modified my carrier so the gun would feed the Mihec H$G #503 and modified the cartridge cartridge stop to allow longer OAL.

My best success to date is with the H&G #503 at 258 grs. solid and the Mihec 434640 RNFP at 270 gr. solid. The H&G #503 feeds pretty reliably now with the gun modified but the Mihec 434640 feeds slick, if I had gotten that mould first I would not have modified the gun! Both boolits give good accuracy. The RanchDog 265 gr. design should also do very well.

Longbow

runfiverun
01-20-2017, 01:49 AM
found your other 4 for ya Jim.

most 444's have a larger barrel.
they done them that way cause [shrug] I dunno it's bigger than a 44?
431 is pretty normal.

Bird
01-20-2017, 04:57 AM
The aa2300 load will surely light up the sky.

44man
01-20-2017, 11:02 AM
Larger boolits were hard to chamber but .431" fit better. Chamber is tight.
Thanks for the "4".
My neighbor is a skinny man and got beat green until he bought a pad. Overhangs the stock some but he is happy now. He wants to buy a mold and I ask "WHY" use mine. But you need to get the checks. I don't go to the belt to get metal.

44man
01-20-2017, 11:07 AM
The aa2300 load will surely light up the sky.
For sure but less recoil then 4198. I think it is close to 3031. Yes drive the .444 to jacketed.
Most loads met the boolit base.