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cbashooter
01-09-2017, 12:37 AM
I believe its a sergeants rifle pattern,all steel.furniture. It has two crown proofs.one on lock in not legible(AR maybe? ) but has 1865 under it.one on the tang in JG under a crown.note odd band attachment of rear sight.lock is solid and back side has multiple "M" in circle on various parts.
Bore is actually not a rusty mess.

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fgd135
01-09-2017, 06:59 PM
Don't really know but I am guessing an Indian-made reproduction? The rear sight attachment is odd and the hammer angle to the cone isn't quite right. Is it a smoothbore or rifled?
The lock proof mark is also suspect but your photo is not sharp, so hard to really tell.

cbashooter
01-09-2017, 07:52 PM
It doesn't appear to be Indian made. I have seen have been marked to replicate the Enfield guns. But then again who knows

cbashooter
01-09-2017, 07:53 PM
It is rifled. Many of the Indian guns were Smooth Bore. The workmanship in the gun is quite nice. Not crude like that stuff they found in Nepal

59sharps
01-10-2017, 11:57 PM
post it on the N-ssa site they will know

Ithaca Gunner
01-11-2017, 02:19 PM
It's a Land Pattern, (army) sergeant's rifle, similar to the Naval Pattern 1858 which Parker Hale reproduced in the 1970's except with brass fittings and a 5 groove 1:48" barrel. There were several patterns of this rifle, differing I believe in groove and twist of the barrel mostly. Given the date 1856 on the lock, I think this one may be a 3 groove. I don't have my books handy right now.

Ithaca Gunner
01-11-2017, 02:48 PM
Just remembered, these were also made in Belgium and maybe France also besides England. Very popular with Confederate sharp shooters, (forget about the Whitworth, these far outnumbered them). Also Brazil issued a very similar rifle at the time.

1Hawkeye
01-11-2017, 06:06 PM
My guess is Pakistan or Afghanistan. The rear sight is totally wrong and so is the lock marking not to mention the through pin in the forend it looks like a lot of the ones vets are bringing back from the sandbox.