NYer's- They're coming for your guns!!!

[Bret4207]

Excellent link to a listing of current anti-gun legislation fromthe NSSF. Better act now boys, Patterson will sign anything that crosses his desk!

http://www.nssf.org/legal/links/NY061608.cfm

Below is a list of the anti-gun / anti-small business bills now in the NY Senate Codes Committee:

Assembly Bill 6525A: This bill would require FFLs to have a minimum of $1,000,000 liability insurance. Additionally, AB6525A calls for new sales and reporting requirements for all NY firearms retailers. Assemblywoman Amy Paulin (D-88) is the sponsor.

Assembly Bill 7331: This bill would expand the ban on semi-automatic "assault weapons" and require the ballistic imaging (commonly and erroneously referred to as ballistic "fingerprinting") of all semi-automatic "assault weapons." The bill has been sponsored by Assemblyman Matthew Titone (D-61).

Assembly Bill 2772: This bill would ban the sale, use or possession of any rifle chambered .50 caliber or larger. This bill would require gun-owners in possession of these firearms to surrender them to state authorities. This bill has been sponsored by Assemblywoman Patricia Eddington (D-3).

Assembly Bill 829: This bill would prohibit the sale of any handgun that doesn't contain a childproofing device or mechanism incorporated into the design of the handgun. It has been sponsored by Assemblyman Steve Englebright (D-4).

Assembly Bill 9819A: This bill would mandate the flawed technology of firearms microstamping and ban the sale of any semi-automatic handgun not equipped with "microstamping" technology. This bill has been sponsored by Assemblywoman Michelle Schimel (D-16).

Assembly Bill 3447: This bill would ban the sale or possession of frangible ammunition. AB3447 has been introduced by State Assemblyman David Koon (D-135).

Assembly Bill 76: This bill would require the mandatory "safe" storage of all firearms. AB76 has been sponsored by Assemblyman Harvey Weisenberg (D-20).

Assembly Bill 3451: This bill would expand the ballistic imaging program in New York – a program that has cost New York taxpayers tens of millions of dollars and is "credited" with solving no crimes. This bill has been introduced by State Assemblyman David Koon (D-135).

These bills will have no impact on crime and only serve to hurt law-abiding citizens and businessmen in the Empire State. Please contact your State Senator immediately and respectfully urge him or her to oppose these dangerous bills.

Find your state senator at NSSF's Capwiz site. Enter your zip code to find your state senator.

New York State Senate switchboard: (518) 455-2800

To join the NSSF, please contact BettyJane Swann, NSSF Director of Membership.

Please forward this legislative alert to other firearms enthusiasts, sportsmen and gun owners.

[Bret4207]

And in the Assembly too!

Anti-gun Bills Flood New York State Assembly

Numerous anti-gun bills are slated to be voted on in the New York State Assembly. The National Shooting Sports Foundation and the New York State Association of Firearms Retailers are encouraging all sportsmen, gun owners and firearms enthusiasts to contact your state assembly member immediately, urging them to oppose these anti-gun bills:

Assembly Bill 6525A, sponsored by State Assemblywoman Amy Paulin (D-88), would create new sales and reporting requirements for licensed firearms dealers and require dealers to carry a minimum of $1,000,000 of liability insurance.

Assembly Bill 9819A, authored by State Assemblywoman Michelle Schimel (D-16), would seek to ban the sale of semi-automatic handguns not equipped with so-called "microstamping" technology. The bill requires all semiautomatic pistols sold in the state to microstamp an array of characters that identify the make, model and serial number of the pistol on the firing pin, which would copy the characters onto the cartridge case upon firing.

Assembly Bill 7331, sponsored by State Assemblyman Matthew Titone (D-61), would expand the ban on semi-automatic "assault weapons," as well as require the ballistic "fingerprinting" (registration) of all semi-automatic "assault weapons" owned prior to a specified date.

Assembly Bill 3451, introduced by State Assemblyman David Koon (D-135), would expand New York's failed ballistic imaging program even after a study by the National Academy Sciences was released stating it does not work to solve crimes.

Assembly Bill 2772, authored by State Assemblywoman Patricia Eddington (D-3), would ban the sale, use or possession of any firearm with a bore diameter .50 caliber or larger. This bill would require gun owners in possession of these firearms to surrender them to law enforcement.

Assembly Bill 829, sponsored by State Assemblyman Steve Englebright (D-4), would prohibit the sale of any handgun that doesn't contain a childproofing device or mechanism incorporated into the design of the handgun.

Assembly Bill 76, sponsored by State Assemblyman Harvey Weisenberg (D-20), would require the mandatory storage of all firearms.

Assembly Bill 3447, introduced by State Assemblyman David Koon (D-135), would ban the sale or possession of frangible ammunition.

Assembly Bill 9543, authored by State Assemblyman Michael Gianaris (D-36), would require purchasers of antique firearms to undergo a background check.

New York State Dealers in the Crosshairs

Anti-gun legislator Eric Schneiderman (D-31) in the New York State Senate is trying to circumvent the committee process to further his agenda. Sen. Schneiderman is trying to petition Senate Bill 2404 out of committee to the floor.

The intent of this legislation is to impose impossible requirements and restrictions on federally licensed firearms dealers that will in the end force each and every dealer out of business. SB 2404 and its supporters only have one goal in mind, and that is closing down firearms dealers. The most onerous requirement of the legislation is the imposition of liability insurance for the illegal use of a firearm that is legally transferred by a licensed dealer. It is understood that insurance companies will not write these policies, thus putting the dealers in a position where they cannot meet the "condition." Among other things, this legislation mandates redundant reporting requirements and security measures that would be impractical to implement.

NSSF, joined by the affiliated New York State Association of Firearms Retailers, is encouraging all sportsmen, hunters and firearms enthusiasts to contact their local members of the New York State Senate, urging them to strongly oppose this anti-business and anti-gun legislation along with the sponsor's attempt to bypass the committee process.

[Morgan Astorbilt]

Anybody notice the party affiliation of the clowns introducing these bills? Been out of NY almost thirty years, and don't miss it a bit! Well, not the politics, anyway.
Mogan

[runfiverun]

and if they pass this, please don't turn them in box them up and ship them out here.
at least you can get a jab in at the end of the fight.
remember the whiskey rebellion after the revolutionary war?
that shaped this country as much or more then the founding fathers.

[sundog]

Morgan, I got out of the Air Force in 76 (wound up in the Army after that) and could have gone back to live in New York. I felt something was 'wrong' there and decided not to. Good move on my part. What's really a same is that New York is such a beautiful state, so varied. When I grew up on Long Island it was rural and small towns. I miss it the way it was. Upstate too, but it's New York and the clowns apparently have taken control.

R5R, rebellion, you say?

[keeper89]

Get ready for more of the same nationwide if Hussein gets elected as prez!!

[Morgan Astorbilt]

Sundog, You wouldn't recognize the Island today. Suffolk County looks more like Nassau, or even worse, Queens. Not much room to hunt, except out on the forks, and the traffic is terrible.
Morgan

[cabezaverde]

Thanks Bret,

My office is literally down the hall from David Koon. Maybe I will stop by tomorrow.

[Old Ironsights]

Freg 'em. Start making your own. You'll need them soon enough.

[crowbeaner]

Notice that all of the "sponsors" have "D" in front of their district. Now you know why I'm a Republican and don't vote for a dumbocrat if they run for DOGCATCHER! The current governor is legally blind and can't see what is happening around him. Do you really think he READS those bills? He got in on Spitzer's coattails, and he has to go along with the current crop of idiots to make his mark.

[Bret4207]

Crowbeaner- Young Prince Andy Cuomo feels the same way! I have a feeling he'll be even worse. At least Patterson seems to be showing some fiscal responsibility, unlike his predecessors.

[crowbeaner]

Hey Bret; if the last price increase on cigarettes of $1.65 per pack shows fiscal responsibility, I'm not gonna like his tenure. He stinks just like the rest of his political ilk.

[wills]

Hey Bret; if the last price increase on cigarettes of $1.65 per pack shows fiscal responsibility, I'm not gonna like his tenure. He stinks just like the rest of his political ilk.

Switch to Cee-Gars!

[Bret4207]

Hey Bret; if the last price increase on cigarettes of $1.65 per pack shows fiscal responsibility, I'm not gonna like his tenure. He stinks just like the rest of his political ilk.



Hey! I said "at least"! OUCH!:mrgreen:

[REDTAIL]

we get rid of Elliot Spritzer and we get a gov who is leagely blind with that as-h--e Andrew Como as attorney gen i did not vote for any democrats in ny ever never we have to keep calling up our rep sen and ask them to knock down these bills

[Heavy lead]

Sounds like they are burning the hippie lettuce in the legislatures up there in NY, just making up crap. They've got investment banks going belly up all over Wall Street and tons of illegals and once again the law abiders get targeted. Maybe they'll pass a bill that'll put a microchip with a gps in every factory loaded cartridge, yeah, that's a better idea. How about serial numbered bar coded rifled guns, yeah, even better. :-D

[Bad Water Bill]

Here in Crook oops Cook county Il we are fighting a law to have all boolita individually serial numbered by 01-09. Also the brass. Crook oops there I go again county home of Durbin, Daley, B H O, Her majesty H R C, And our governor. Must be something in the water or their parents or grand parents hung around the stadium in 1943 & 4 and it messed with their genes

[Dano67]

Update on Pending Firearm Legislation in the Empire State

Friday, June 27, 2008

On Tuesday, June 24, the 2008 New York State Legislative Session closed with the following anti-gun bills failing to pass in the State Senate.

Assembly Bill 6525A, sponsored by State Assemblywoman Amy Paulin (D-88), would have created new sales and reporting requirements for licensed firearms dealers and would have required dealers to carry a minimum of $1,000,000 of liability insurance.

Assembly Bill 9819A, authored by State Assemblywoman Michelle Schimel (D-16), would have banned the sale of semi-automatic handguns not equipped with so-called "micro-stamping" technology. The bill requires all semiautomatic pistols sold in the state to stamp an array of characters that identify the make, model, and serial number of the pistol on the firing pin, which would copy the characters onto the cartridge case upon firing.

Assembly Bill 7331, sponsored by State Assemblyman Matthew Titone (D-61), would have expanded the ban on semi-automatic “assault weapons,” as well as requiring the ballistic “fingerprinting”(registration) of all semi-automatic “assault weapons” owned prior to a specified date.

Assembly Bill 3451, introduced by State Assemblyman David Koon (D-135), sought to expand New York’s failed ballistic imaging program.

Assembly Bill 2772, authored by State Assemblywoman Patricia Eddington (D-3), would have banned the sale, use or possession of any rifle with a bore diameter .50 caliber or larger. This bill would have required gun owners in possession of these firearms to surrender them to law enforcement.

Assembly Bill 829, sponsored by State Assemblyman Steve Englebright (D-4), sought to prohibit the sale of any handgun that doesn’t contain a childproofing device or mechanism incorporated into the design of the handgun.

Assembly Bill 76, sponsored by State Assemblyman Harvey Weisenberg (D-20), sought the required mandatory storage of all firearms.

Assembly Bill 3447, introduced by State Assemblyman David Koon (D-135), would have banned the sale or possession of frangible ammunition.


It was crucial that all of these measures were voted down in order to protect the Second Amendment rights of all gun-owners in New York State.

Info from NRA website

[Bret4207]

As my good friend and partner in crime points out, those were last years bills. Stand by for NEW!!! IMPROVED!!! bills this session.

Don't forget stopguncontrol exists to fight this stuff nationwide.

[crowbeaner]

They never, never, never EVER give up. Just a brief reprieve from the onslaught. "We are going to hammer guns on the relentless anvil of political strategy..." US SEN Chuck Schumer- DEMOCRAT

[singleshotbuff]

I find it amusing that, even though all of these types of bills (and not just in NY) have a D after their sponsors names, some gun owners will still vote democrat.

I'm not pointing fingers just at members of this board, or even people in NY, as my own father in law is the same way. He's been a gun owner and hunter for longer than I have been alive, but he'll still vote democrat because the steelworkers union he used to be in told him so.

When I ask him how he can vote for dems, given their proven track record of anti-gun stances, he just tells me "there are other issues". I just laugh and think to myself that if we lose this "issue", all the other "issues" won't matter in the long run.


SSB

[Scrounger]

I find it amusing that, even though all of these types of bills (and not just in NY) have a D after their sponsors names, some gun owners will still vote democrat.

I'm not pointing fingers just at members of this board, or even people in NY, as my own father in law is the same way. He's been a gun owner and hunter for longer than I have been alive, but he'll still vote democrat because the steelworkers union he used to be in told him so.

When I ask him how he can vote for dems, given their proven track record of anti-gun stances, he just tells me "there are other issues". I just laugh and think to myself that if we lose this "issue", all the other "issues" won't matter in the long run.


SSB


I am not a Democrat (Or a Republican) but I would like to offer a possible reason: It is damn hard to buy guns when you're unemployed, no work for months on end, gas is $4 a gallon and your family is hungry. Have you looked at the economy lately? Think maybe some people want to change things? Not saying that voting "D" will change things, just saying maybe they HOPE it will...

[singleshotbuff]

Scrounger,

Agreed that people are looking for hope. As far as "looking" at the economy, I have been unemployed for almost 2 years now, I am aware of how things are, trust me.

I guess my view is that the "hope" these people are being offered is a direct road to socialism and ruin for this great nation. To me the guns "issue" is no longer about buying toys. I believe that it will sooner or later come to having to use my "toys" to defend myself and my family, which to me will make all other "issues" moot.

I also am not saying that a "R" vote will fix a damn thing, but hopefully it will slow the slide to being a third world nation. At least until we can figure out to fix the mess we're in.

I am not a McCain supporter by any stretch of the imagination, in my opinion he is borderline unstable. However he is not OPENLY socialist like the other 2 knuckleheads.

I guess since I was downsized from a good job and have been unemployed for so long I SHOULD be a democrat. I just don't expect anyone to help me out but me. I just wasn't raised that way.

SSB

[Old Ironsights]

SSB: I hear you. I've been essentially unemployed since 1995 when I bought the lie that going back to Uni at 30 would make me more employable.

All it did was give me a $40K debt load and 4 years out of the work force. Been temping &/or working for my parents ever since.

Unfortunately PC hiring policies/ "EEOC" check boxes don't leave many options for a 40 y/o white guy with no political connections.

We are no longer a meritocracy - if we ever truly were - not when Gooberment Check Boxes and Lawyers with Quotas can tell you who you can and cannot hire.

Bring on the Collapse. Ragnarok & Roll Baby. At least I'll be good for somthing again.

[Dano67]

Should have thought to post this with my earlier post. Not only do they have D's by their names but all but one is from the NYC/Long Isl. area. The other is from the City of Rochester. As I said to my rep in my e mails the people from the rest of our State are sick and tired of City people trying to impose their lifestyles on us.


District 88 - Westchester Co. , Just above NYC
District 135 Monroe County (Read Rochester NY)
District 16 and 20 Nassau Co, Long Island
District 61 Staten Island NY
District 3 and 4 Suffolk Co. Long Island
District 36 Queens, NY
District 31 NYC,NY