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David R
11-02-2005, 05:46 PM
Win primer
44 grains WC860
311644 190 gr quenched ww + 5% tin
Av 1602 ES 38 SD 14

10 shots 50 yards 7/8"....One ragged hole.

This is out of my Wally world Stevens 200 308.

A good day at the range.

David

Ben
11-02-2005, 06:28 PM
I just learned something.......I figured that WC - 860 would be far too slow for a .308 Win.

I'll have to try that load in my rifle.

Ben

Headstamp
11-02-2005, 10:49 PM
David,

How do you like that 200 Stevens thus far?


Regards

Buckshot
11-03-2005, 12:03 AM
..........David, how'd it burn? Didja have to do the "860 Flick" ?:D

............Buckshot

David R
11-03-2005, 04:02 AM
Headstamp,

I love the rifle. It is a shooter. Not pretty, but shoots well. That is all I wanted. I figured its the luck of the draw. I got a good one. I feel I got more than I paid for.

Buckshot,
Some unburned powder was in the chamber. I clean my guns frequently anyhow. Sometimes I "mass" clean them all. I think I could shoot for a day with out having any problems. I was amazed at the accuracy.

This load is a keeper. I have 50 in a box ready to go.

Buckshot
11-06-2005, 04:42 AM
.........David, try 2.0grs of H4198 under that load of WC860 and see if it doesn't clean it all up and give you another 50 fps or so.

Or not :D

...............Buckshot

9.3X62AL
11-06-2005, 09:59 AM
That WC-860 powder is some amazing stuff--and still cheap, too. I am revisiting the 45-70 with this stuff, loading a little more 4198 underneath the main charge cleans up the powder pretty well and really boosts the velocity from its rather sedate previous performances.

The 30-06/#311291 loaded with a full case of the stuff yielded 2100 FPS over Buckshot's chronograph a while back. Not much debris in the bore, either. Another revisit is pending in a different rifle in the near future.

PatMarlin
11-06-2005, 10:34 AM
How'd it work in the past for the 45-70 Al?

I passed on the WC680 to fill my order, and got 2- 4895's instead cause that looked like the most usable powder for most all my rifles.

I wanted to get some WC844, but Hitech didn't have any, so I got the 820, 4895, and 872.

Buckshot
11-07-2005, 08:17 PM
..............Pat, go to CASTPICS and check the surplus powder load data for the 45-70. I have velocities for the straight charge (really dirty, bad) and the duplexed ones. 3.0grs of H4198 cleaned it all up.

...............Buckshot

9.3X62AL
11-07-2005, 10:36 PM
Pat--

Using the Lee 405 PB, my load of 3.0 x IMR 4198 underneath 48.0 x WC-860 barely gave 1000 FPS, left a little debris behind, but did shoot accurately. I moved to 5.0 x 4198/46.0 x 860, and the bore was quite clean and the rounds hit higher on target at 50 yards. This needs some more shake-out, for sure--the recoil is noticeably stronger, so there's more velocity. Gotta chrono some of these, and accuracy seems to be equivalent to the weaker loads.

PatMarlin
11-10-2005, 09:17 AM
Thanks.