Howbouta Gator Check Buy Again?

[PatMarlin]

Holy cow... what did I start this time?.. :mrgreen:

Checks arrived and perfect. Thanks to Sir Felix.. [smilie=w:

[454PB]

Your wife is a saint........

[Tristan]

Some pics........ felix


Now that you've had a week's rest, you ready to do it again? [smilie=1:










DON'T SHOOT! I WAS ONLY KIDDIN'!!!




I appreciate your wife and your efforts to bring this off. I only wish I had more disposable income at the time and could have doubled up (or more).

THANKS AGAIN!!

- Tristan

[swampmaster]

I missed out on this buy any chance of another in the not so distant future?

[PatMarlin]

Yeah Felix... ready to get right back on that horse?..
Bwaaaaaaaahaaa.. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I think the distant part was right Swampmaster, but not the "not so" part.. :drinks:

[felix]

If the health holds out, we might do it again. Tommy is going to help with setting up an all night computer that can be logged into for orders, and for Larry to constantly monitor. ... felix

[Leftoverdj]

Felix, I'm assuming that you are not through shipping? I have not seen my name. I'm not hurrying you, just need to know when to look for a package so the PO won't bounce if back.

[felix]

Emmett, your order was shipped on 4/28. Anybody else missing theirs? ... felix

Go to page 21.... 04-30-2006, 05:00 PM

Please send me your address again. Want to make sure the addy is correct in our data base.
Might have been sent to kingdom come instead of to your house. ... felix

fmr72901atJunodotcom

[Leftoverdj]

False alarm, Felix. I sprinted to the PO and just caught them. Looking good.

[felix]

That's good! Now the only person we have to worry about is FINN45. ... felix

[Heavy]

Like swampmaster I missed the boat also. Post loud and clear on the next gas check buy. You guys have taught me more in this last year of snooping than my last 30 of hit and miss casting. Back in the 70's started the paper patch 30 cal. route and just stuck with it till now. PB pistol and paper patch rifle was all I ever messed with. Kept it simple with the lee sizers and stuff.

[Finn45]

Nothing to worry yet and I'm not short on checks here; thanks to my friends in the US. It will take 1..2 months and sometimes it takes more time than is advertised, but I haven't lost anything yet. Thanks to Felix and all others involved; not very easy task I'm sure. Me too have a new shopping list waiting for the next round :drinks: .

[felix]

For the next time, we might have a minimum dollar value just to keep folks from "testing the waters". The shear number of orders is more of a hassle than the large orders, at least head wise. Physically, the large orders are more work, but also more fun because of the challenge in getting them shipped in the minimum amount of packaging material. ... felix

[6pt-sika]

How much do you "think" the price will increase with the same volume order ?

[felix]

By this time next year? 50 percent! ... felix

[redneckdan]

I'll be intrested in the next check buy also. I do agree that prices will go up drasticly unless the metal market tanks before then.

[Junior1942]

Felix, do the next group buy in 30 caliber only and with a 5k minimum. Might even do multiples of 5k only, i.e., 10k, 15k, etc., etc. Be easier to keep up with the orders that way.

[felix]

Sounds like a plan, Junior. Others have mentioned likewise. ... felix

[felix]

Perhaps, the best measure would be in even pounds worth. ... felix

[Junior1942]

I just opened a new box of Hornady 30 caliber gas checks and weighed them on a precision scale. 1,000 = 4455.2 grs.

[felix]

Junior, please do the same with the Gator's. ... felix

[madcaster]

HeHeHe,
Go fer it Felix,i have more of what was in that last package!!!

[felix]

It would be just a whale of a lot easier to use a cup of a certain size and knife edge the cup and then dump the contents into a bag. One cup would be "light" and the next cup would be "heavy" on average. So, if a minimum would be two cups per order increment, the measure of checks expected would come out within reason. So, we might have to say a certain number of cups per order would be a good method. Just a way to cut time down dramatically. I really don't think any of us care that we have 1000 checks in that bag. We are after quality (uniformity) and physical cost most primarily.

I designed the computer hardware (board and components) and software, and wrote the software code, for the likes of Frito-Lay (as a consultant to them via Micracle-Packaging Corp). The law at that time stated that a "case" or product must meet weight as a minimum, but the bags inside can be all over the map in terms of weight, volume). Based on that, the bags of stuff on the store shelves must be investigated by the consummer. So, compare bags before buying one.
Now, if you are buying 5 bags, who would care. Close enough is good enough. Grab the bags and leave so the line at the cash register does not get too long while contemplating what each bag has in it. ... felix

[Tristan]

Man, 50% price increase? Ow!

Now I'm *REALLY* sorry I didn't buy more!!

;-)

[Junior1942]

Junior, please do the same with the Gator's. ... felixI'll do it in the morning. But I didn't order any 30 caliber. I'll weigh what I ordered--32, 357, and 44.

[Lloyd Smale]

Hell im ready for buy #2 no matter how you do it!!!! Should have ordered twice what i did but the funds were a little tight. A man can never have enough primmers surplus powder gaschecks or lead!!!! (thats a hint for some other good group buys pal!!)

[Beau Cassidy]

I would be good for at least another order of the same size as my last. Probably a lot larger. That ought to make for a really good start.

Beau

[Junior1942]

Gator checks weight:

1,000 @ 323 = 5071.0 grs

2,000 @ 35 = 6847.4 grs (While the bag is marked 2,000, I suspect it contains only 1,000. No, I don't want a refund--I'm happy.)

1,000 @ 430 = 7805.4 grs

[felix]

Junior, that problem would have been formulated before I got the shippment! Perhaps, the 358 checks are thinner by a considerable margin. Do you have an old Hornady box you can verify volume with? ... felix

[StarMetal]

Okay fellows...I have some OLD Hornady 35 cal gaschecks. 1000 of them weigh 7340 grains. I miked the center bottom of one and it's .0115

Hope this helps.

Joe

[felix]

Thanks, Joe. ... felix

[felix]

I found approx 2000 gator 35's upstairs, well hidden. 435 grams on cheap kitchen mechanical scale. About ONE pound! ... felix

[StarMetal]

Felix,

I guess we both overlooked my error, I meant to say 2000 Hornady older 35 cal gaschecks weigh 7340 grains, which is slightly over a pound. How thick are those gator ones you just found? Can you mike one?

Sorry about amount the error but the weight is correct.

Joe

[Junior1942]

I found approx 2000 gator 35's upstairs, well hidden. 435 grams on cheap kitchen mechanical scale. About ONE pound! ... felixWell, 6847.4 grs is "about" 7000 grs or "about"ONE pound, so I must have 2,000 checks, huh?

[n]

I'm ready for round 2. The Gator Checks I received in the GB are of excellent quality. Next round I will definately order a larger quantity. I only got 10,000 in the first round. Maybe Gator Checks could become a regular item here. Could Felix swing a deal of that nature? Maybe something that didn't need a honcho.
Nighthunter

[felix]

Possibly, if I remain a half-way honcho. ... felix

[no_1]

What do you mean? Please define half-way honcho. If it is help you need, what can we do to help?

Robert

Possibly, if I remain a half-way honcho. ... felix

[felix]

Distribution. ... felix

[no_1]

What would be your ideal way to do it?

[felix]

Gotta' think about it. Transportation cost is a real killer. ... felix

[C A Plater]

I wonder how many gas checks can be stuffed into one of those USPS flat rate boxes? ;)

[felix]

3 of those boxes plumb full went to one person. A 800+ dollar order. 60-70 pounds per box? Just a guess. ... felix

[Beau Cassidy]

One of my flat boxes from felix had 10K (or was it 15K?) .44's in it. Might have been able to get another 5K or so in without too much trouble. That was double boxed which is highly recommended since it is also the box that the PO decided to torture test.

Beau

[steveb]

Im checking in very late in the game here but is this group buy still ongoing??? If not whens the next one???

[felix]

Check back in around December. Make sure you save enough cash between now and then for possibly 5K minimum per caliber. ... felix

[swampmaster]

Check back in around December. Make sure you save enough cash between now and then for possibly 5K minimum per caliber. ... felix

So I know approx cash to keep onhand what was the average price per k or 5k

[felix]

Assume 15 bucks per K, anyway, for an average of normal checks. The 50 calibers will be much higher, say 30 bucks per K. Just speculation. ... felix

[Finn45]

Finally! Box full of gas checks arrived today in fine condition. Took about two and a half months, maybe they broke an oar or two on the way here. Big thanks for Felix & co.

[RANGER RICK]

I thought shipping to Alaska was slow !!!! Holy smokes at that rate I would of had to order 100,000 gas checks at a time !!!!!!!!

RR

[felix]

100K checks minimum per order, 5K per caliber minimum? That might be required to get the prices reasonable. If orders are made this way, the next GB will have to start earlier than 6 months in advance of delivery. In Reijo's situation, that would be 9.5 months in advance! ... felix

[PatMarlin]

I coulda rode my bike over there quicker than that.. :mrgreen: