First loads from cast

[Scorpius]

8mm 160 grain, loaded over 28 grains of IMR4198

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[Scorpius]

And I wiped off the lube from the exposed lead. Hopefully that's ok. Didn't read otherwise.
Might need to try some type of powder coat next time. That lube is sticky


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[LAH]

Congrats on the loads & boolits.

[richhodg66]

The exposed lube isn't a problem unless they're exposed to dust. If you get it too thick, it can gunk up your seating die, but doesn't look like you did.

I think that load will work fine, I have used similar charges with bullets in the same weight range in the .308 with good results. Looks like you're well on your way.

[Soundguy]

What lube did you use that was sticky?

What do the projectiles look like out of the case ( do you have enough lubed grooves in the case we can't see? ). For 160gr, looks like we are seeing plenty of exposed projectile.

[Yodogsandman]

You should have a ball shooting those! Congrats!

Normally, I'd only load up 10 or 20 rounds with a new boolit and powder, just in case I didn't like it.

[Soundguy]

I agree on the few loads to test first.

[Scorpius]

What lube did you use that was sticky?

What do the projectiles look like out of the case ( do you have enough lubed grooves in the case we can't see? ). For 160gr, looks like we are seeing plenty of exposed projectile.

Lubed them with the lee lube that comes with the sizers. They looked like an amber lacquer coating. I also seated them to the length called for in the cast handbook for that specific mould.


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[Scorpius]

You should have a ball shooting those! Congrats!

Normally, I'd only load up 10 or 20 rounds with a new boolit and powder, just in case I didn't like it.

Well half I tried with gas check the others not. Not really loving this mold as I'm not really into seeing the lube grooves. Not to mention 40 yard indoor range won't tell me much. :-(


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[Soundguy]

Lubed them with the lee lube that comes with the sizers. They looked like an amber lacquer coating. I also seated them to the length called for in the cast handbook for that specific mould.


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If the lube is sticky, something is wrong. Assuming you didn't contaminate it with some other solvent or lube, you either put it on too heavy, or didn't allow it to cure.

My lee alox lubed boolits are NEVER sticky... But then I let them cure fully too..

Good luck.. But if you've wiped all the lube off....

[runfiverun]

hmm that's approaching my 4895 load.
keep an eye on things for the first handful of shots.

[Scorpius]

hmm that's approaching my 4895 load.
keep an eye on things for the first handful of shots.

Books showed 27- if I recall 35 so it's lower end. Regardless I check primers several shots before I get comfortable.

As for prior post yea the lee alox dried it was about 10 days post lubing before I loaded them. Just tacky on the side where they layed on the wax paper and it built up.


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[runfiverun]

it ain't the pressure you need to be concerned about.

[Yodogsandman]

Bring your cleaning kit and lead removal supplies with you. Keep a close eye on the lead build up from the bare based boolit rounds. I hear it sometimes takes all day to clean all that lead out of the barrel.

[Scorpius]

Bring your cleaning kit and lead removal supplies with you. Keep a close eye on the lead build up from the bare based boolit rounds. I hear it sometimes takes all day to clean all that lead out of the barrel.

Guess I'll use my finger and add coat of alox back. Next time I won't remove it :-/


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[Scorpius]

Ok left the lube on this time :-) 30 carbine. Lyman 311359 die sized to .308 over 5.5g of IMR SR4756

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[Yodogsandman]

Guess I'll use my finger and add coat of alox back. Next time I won't remove it :-/

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It's not all about the lube, it's about trying to run bare based boolits to about 1900 FPS without a gas check. The propellant gasses will blast past the boolit base and cut the boolit sides like a torch, leaving trails of lead throughout your barrel. Some can do it with perfect boolit fit and alloy composition for perfect obturation. You haven't shot the combo before so, the chances for success are close to zero.

Keep velocities with bare bottom boolits to under 1200 FPS, just to start out.

[Scorpius]

It's not all about the lube, it's about trying to run bare based boolits to about 1900 FPS without a gas check. The propellant gasses will blast past the boolit base and cut the boolit sides like a torch, leaving trails of lead throughout your barrel. Some can do it with perfect boolit fit and alloy composition for perfect obturation. You haven't shot the combo before so, the chances for success are close to zero.

Keep velocities with bare bottom boolits to under 1200 FPS, just to start out.

Ah now I see. Man I hate newb mistakes. Guess the only good ones are the ones with gas checks.
So guess I've got a choice, pull and put on checks or learn cleaning lead out :-/




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[flyingmonkey35]

Lee liquid alox can take forever to dry. But fear not sticky is fine.

Good job

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[Soundguy]

Ah now I see. Man I hate newb mistakes. Guess the only good ones are the ones with gas checks.
So guess I've got a choice, pull and put on checks or learn cleaning lead out :-/




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Do your projectiles have the heel for a gas check? ( IE, is your mold making GC projectiles? if not.. you can't just add them.. you need a different mold ).

[Scorpius]

Do your projectiles have the heel for a gas check? ( IE, is your mold making GC projectiles? if not.. you can't just add them.. you need a different mold ).

Yes they are made for gas checks :-)
Well pulled all my rounds that where without gas checks. Will melt it all down and cast a new batch sometime soon.
Next time I'll be using gas checks at sizing time. That or I might venture into the world of powder coating so I can just load them up. Need to read up as I'm thinking just from initial reads the liquid version would suit me better.
Haven't seen a harbor freight coat yet that I've liked.


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[popper]

I run real plain base boolits pretty hard but I've only gotten to 1300 fps for those without GC, PCd.

[Soundguy]

Yes they are made for gas checks :-)
Well pulled all my rounds that where without gas checks. Will melt it all down and cast a new batch sometime soon.
Next time I'll be using gas checks at sizing time. That or I might venture into the world of powder coating so I can just load them up. Need to read up as I'm thinking just from initial reads the liquid version would suit me better.
Haven't seen a harbor freight coat yet that I've liked.


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I personal think your un gas checked, gas check boolits would have gas cut even worse and performed poorly...

[robg]

Shoot the non gc boolits first then a quick brush of the bore then the GC boolits.that will get any lead out ,,if there is any.

[Yodogsandman]

Powder coating takes the place of the lubrication for boolits, not the gas checks. Gas checks are still needed for higher velocities.