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dmclark523
11-26-2016, 08:59 PM
Before anyone asks, yes I spent quite a bit of time searching through google and checking all my favorite custom mold websites but to no avail.

I'm looking for a mold for a 9mm round nose, .358, w/gas check. The closest thing I can find is the RCBS 9mm-124-RN, but its sized .356, and I must be able to get it in .358.

I would really appreciate any assistance in finding this mold. Thank you!

runfiverun
11-26-2016, 09:31 PM
It would probably make 358.
if it doesn't, a little bottle of lapping compound at NAPA is like $7.
.002 is doable with a little patience.

GhostHawk
11-26-2016, 09:48 PM
It may not be what you wish to hear, but Lee makes a .358 158 gr round nose that works fine in my 9mm's.

pworley1
11-26-2016, 10:03 PM
Lyman 358160

dmclark523
11-26-2016, 11:51 PM
Lyman 358160


Thanks for the reply, but this is not a gas check version.

beagle
11-27-2016, 01:24 AM
I use a lot of Lyman 358242s with Pat marlin's .35PB checks in my high powers. Works well./beagle

Phlier
11-27-2016, 02:31 AM
I wouldn't mind a nice gas check for 9mm, too, but until the price of checks come down...

azrednek
11-27-2016, 03:41 AM
Before anyone asks, yes I spent quite a bit of time searching through google and checking all my favorite custom mold websites but to no avail.

I'm looking for a mold for a 9mm round nose, .358, w/gas check. The closest thing I can find is the RCBS 9mm-124-RN, but its sized .356, and I must be able to get it in .358.

I would really appreciate any assistance in finding this mold. Thank you!

My RCBS 9mm-124-RN is dropping right at .358 with 50/50 mix of clip-on and stickys. I sized a bunch 358 and used them with good results in my Rossi 38/357 lever.

Grmps
11-27-2016, 04:21 AM
Lee #: 90322


.358 158GR SWC GC






has gc but it's swc

marlin39a
11-27-2016, 05:36 AM
Not RN, but worth looking at. Noe 358-124-TC. It's GC. I own it and shoots great in my 3 9mm pistols. Noe also makes a 358-135 FN. Round profile, flat. It's a GC.

dh2
11-27-2016, 01:30 PM
http://accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=36-147BB-D.png

quilbilly
11-27-2016, 03:17 PM
It may not be what you wish to hear, but Lee makes a .358 158 gr round nose that works fine in my 9mm's. Works fine in both my 9mm carbine and my 357's when sized to 358 for both. The Lee boolit drops from my mold at 155 gr +- 1 gr. At one time I considered it for a gas check but found that once it exceeded an MV of 1200 fps, accuracy became problematic. At velocities below 1300 MV, no gas check in necessary anyway. At an MV of 1150, it does a fine job on varmints out to 125 yards.

skeettx
11-27-2016, 03:38 PM
http://www.neihandtools.com/catalog/index.html
Bullet Number 133

125 Grain and gas check

Call them and tell them exactly what you want :)
NEI Handtools
PO Box 370356
El Paso, TX 79937-0356
915-772-0259 Telephone
nei@neihandtools.com

Code for PayPal Payments

neihandtools@hotmail.com

Mike

Ed_Shot
11-27-2016, 03:45 PM
I use a lot of Lyman 358242s with Pat marlin's .35PB checks in my high powers. Works well./beagle

+1 for Lyman 358242 (120 gr.) and "IF" you need a GC then Pat Marlin's .35PB works well.

NoAngel
11-27-2016, 03:49 PM
http://accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=36-147BB-D.png


Yeah but that ain't a round nose.

I feel this guy's pain on this one. Not sure what his needs are but certain 9mm's are a chore to feed with a cast bullet. I have an AR-9 with a Colt pattern magazine. It's a beech to feed. A staggered feed double stack magazine can be a pain. Any flat point refuses to feed. RN only.

I like running a .357-.358 bullet in my 9mm's depending on the brass thickness.

I have thought long and hard about taking a 358430 and facing the mold off in my lathe, taking off the bottom two driving bands and making the middle lube groove a gas check shank. Not sure what the weight would turn out to be, but it'd be close to what the OP wants.



Also, if you get into powder coating, you can get a .356 bullet up to .358 pretty easy. That opens up your choices.

skeettx
11-29-2016, 07:31 AM
Link for picture of the bullet

358-125-BB (http://www.neihandtools.com/catalog/358-125-bb.jpg)

GWM
11-29-2016, 10:52 AM
There's an on going discussion about a group buy of a 135 grain round nose on this forum
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?320181-Anyone-remember-the-Slippery-9-LEE-group-buy-of-yesteryear
and at NOE's
http://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php/topic,1735.0.html

A 135 grainer works best for me in my autos both accuracy wise and in cycling, less prone to leading and more reliable in feeding.

dmclark523
11-30-2016, 05:29 AM
Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. I've thrown my support behind that group buy that GWM mentioned. Looks like its the best bet!

GhostHawk
11-30-2016, 08:38 AM
Same here brother. In my .357 Handi rifle single shot 3 in one hole.
In my Hipoint Carbines accurate, dependable, no feed issues.
And in my Hipoint C9 I use the .358 124 gr which has been dropping closer to .359 only cast bullet it likes.


Works fine in both my 9mm carbine and my 357's when sized to 358 for both. The Lee boolit drops from my mold at 155 gr +- 1 gr. At one time I considered it for a gas check but found that once it exceeded an MV of 1200 fps, accuracy became problematic. At velocities below 1300 MV, no gas check in necessary anyway. At an MV of 1150, it does a fine job on varmints out to 125 yards.

DocSavage
11-30-2016, 10:46 AM
My experience with 9 mm dia molds will cast .002-.003 larger than the stated diameter. I have RCBS,Saeco and NOE molds that cast .003 over stated mold dia with the Lyman No2 alloy that I use.

Boolseye
11-30-2016, 02:09 PM
I'd be surprised if you couldn't set it up with Tom at Accurate. He'll work with you on anything you like. Best quality and reasonable price.

dmclark523
12-01-2016, 02:38 AM
Love his work, and I actually had him make me a custom design for 9mm, but he does not sell anything that is RN. The closest he can get with his tooling is a TC design, (last time I purchased from him, that is).

Boolseye
12-02-2016, 08:28 AM
yeah, I noticed that after I posted.

trixter
12-02-2016, 02:47 PM
Lee has two, TL 356-124-2R for you tumble lubers, and the 356-125-2R for the others (ACTUALLY THESE CAN BE TUMBLE LUBED ALSO)

Harry O
12-02-2016, 05:09 PM
Sorry I did not see this thread earlier. I have been out for a while due to eye surgery. Let me tell you, that slows you down.

RCBS sells a round-nose 124gr 9mm bullet that is cut for a gas-check. They don't make it easy to find. There is no mention of the gas- check. It is called 9mm-124-RN, but the part number is 82062.

I have about a half-dozen other 9mm moulds (without gas-checks) that I tried to make work for years -- without success. Different hardnesses, different lubes, and different diameters. Some would work with one or two of my guns. Others would work with others. Some would not work at all. NONE of them worked acceptably with all of my 9mm's. I gave up and started looking for a gas-check bullet. Not easy to find, but once I found it I am never going back. It works well (or better) in all my 9mm's. Get it and I doubt that you will go back either.

Boolseye
12-02-2016, 10:01 PM
The OP mentioned that one in his first post. He needs .358".

As runfiverun said, you can size it to .358" and I'll wager it will be fine. If you use the Lee push-through sizing system, just apply the gas check with the .358" sizer and call it good. With the gas check you'll never get any leading. Or, as he also said, lap it. I think I'd recommend beagling first as a means of getting the extra .002".

Harry O
12-03-2016, 05:13 PM
Use the RCBS bullet without sizing - its bigger than 0.356". Use the 0.358" sizer when crimping the gas-check on.

In any case, I question if the .358" is needed. I got some of my plain-base bullets to work with a few guns when sized to 0.358". However, they all work now at 0.356" with a gas check.

Shiloh
12-03-2016, 09:26 PM
Everyones preference.
I find the LEE 125 gr. RF work splendidly in the 9mm. It seats deeper in the case, so work up loads according to tried and true loading practices.

SHiloh

John Boy
12-03-2016, 10:48 PM
Ideal 358502 Prot-X-Bore bullet with zinc washer. (Zinc washer, WC, 125 - TP is ?) [Dark Canyon says 119. ed.]
181951
Of all the Ideal bullet molds made - there is no 125gr with a GC, only in the higher weights, 215gr