View Full Version : I need web designing help ....
Bullshop
06-14-2008, 10:55 PM
Please tell me what good programs are for designing and changing websites... i heard of MS frontpage ??? is that right? can i buy someething like that at SAM's club?
thanks,
Bull Shop Mom
MtGun44
06-15-2008, 12:08 AM
MS Word will write out and read .html files.
Depending on how much you want done, I can do some work for you
or show you how. If you find a page you'd like to copy it is easy to
download a copy and open up and change the parts to what you
want.
You can actually open the .html file in a text editor like notepad and
modify some of the image file names or text values if you aren't changing
much.
You can download SeaMonkey (used to be Mozilla) from
http://www.mozilla.org/products/
I have used the mozilla HTML editor, which is part of the free suite and it worked
OK for me. Haven't used it in a while, but I imagine it is still useful and the prince
(free) is my favorite part.
Bill
Bullshop
06-15-2008, 01:17 AM
thanks - i need to be able to go in and change (update) our site as needed... i need to be able to just go in and change simple things regular - and occasionally redo the site
Bull Shop Mom
Junior1942
06-15-2008, 05:17 AM
Why not learn how to write html with raw html code? It's what I did and do. If you use one of the programs which write the page for you, it makes such complicated code that it's impossible to go back and make slight changes.
Go to this simple page I made for my nephew: http://www.deltablues.net/chad.html
Then in the top right corner of your browser click "page" and when the window opens click "View Source." You'll then see the very simple code for the page. You can save the page to your computer or select and save the text, i.e., you can steal my code--or anyone's code.
I just noticed an error in that simple code, a typo. See if you can find it.
To look at the complicated code generated by a program, "View Source" on this page.
sundog
06-15-2008, 06:37 AM
arial is spelled wrong
Junior1942
06-15-2008, 06:41 AM
arial is spelled wrongSundog gets an atta boy!!
wiljen
06-15-2008, 07:05 AM
I use a mix of several tools to keep up with my sites. Frontpage or Coffee Cup are probably easiest, but they lack a bit in flexibility and menus. Dreamweaver is much more advanced but you'd probably want to take a class in it first and I'm not sure you need that much horsepower. What I have typically done for clients in your position is design a template page and a static framework so they could change elements in the template without having to redesign the site every time. If you need help, yell at me. I work cheap and accept boolits and lube as payment ;)
SharpsShooter
06-15-2008, 07:14 AM
MS Frontpage will do most all you need and is easy to learn.
SS
WildmanJack
06-15-2008, 09:22 AM
I'm with Wiljen on this one. Been using Dreamweaver for years now and I love it. Takes a bit if getting used to but once u have it, it can't be beat.. It's expensive but it will last a lifetime and it's so powerful you really don't have to upgrade it. I'm using a really old version and totally happy with it.
Happy Fathers Day everyone....................
Jack
Gunload Master
06-15-2008, 09:33 AM
I really think highly of Microsoft Frontpage if your a beginner to the art of web design. You can start out with a template and customize it to make it your own very easy. It's also very helpful to have a good image program to resize and create images to better appeal to the website. I personally have used Adobe Photoshop for many years and have enjoyed it. The last few years I have actually been using CMS systems (Content Management Systems) to help with having to write code all the time. Makes it easy to use and it can be customized to fit your needs (just takes some work). This usually requires a database such as MySQL to store all the information on your site.
But I would recommend getting Microsoft Frontpage Mrs. Bullshop because that's actually what I designed your site with and to make updates would be quite simple.
imashooter2
06-15-2008, 09:40 AM
I find Frontpage very easy to use and use WS_FTP95 (freeware) for my uploading. An example of a very simple site made by a pathetic hack with not very much knowledge of the software...
http://www.norwoodumchurch.org/
dromia
06-15-2008, 03:11 PM
MS frontpage its £270 !!!!!!!!!!????????
I've just bought a new computer for less than half of that.
MtGun44
06-16-2008, 12:38 AM
Mozilla (now renamed Sea Monkey) is still free and was easy to use
the last time I used it.
Try it at no cost, never have to pay, no "concience nags' on shareware,
it is FREE, not shareware.
Junior is also right. For simple stuff, editing the raw html is not too
hard to figure out. You can get a book on it, or just search some
pages on the web. If you edit your file that is your existing page
with notepad, you will see all the instructions on how to display the
info - kinda in English, but cryptic and abbreviated, but it isn't
really too hard to figure.
However - try Mozilla HTML editor for free.
Bill
andrew375
06-16-2008, 02:18 AM
MS frontpage its £270 !!!!!!!!!!????????
I've just bought a new computer for less than half of that.
And the other slight problem is that the HTML standard used by microsoft is (surprise, surprise) not quite the standard used by everyone else! This is because it is optimised to generate pages that work with ms Internet Explorer rather than web browsers.
I use mozilla composer, not really a web page creator but a simple editor but it does the job for simple, fast web sites. A good way to start is to copy someone else's web page (with a .html or .htm extension) and edit it.:drinks:
sundog
06-16-2008, 04:48 AM
We recently started using Dreamweaver at work. Took a little getting used to, but it is a good product. It is still necessary to debug/edit the code though, and that is not all that difficult.
Junior, that was an easy one. I write code for a living. I also mistype code for a living, so I have also learned to read code for a living. Sometimes it is not so obvious.
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