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texasnative46
11-12-2016, 05:52 PM
Friends,

I now have a "new to me" long-action Remington Model 760 that was rebored/rechambered by JES to 9.3x62 Mauser AND about 300 GCCB boolits from a "group buy" NOE # 368280 mold.

What I'm looking for is a hunting load for the rifle that is an excellent KILLER on WT & hogs & 1800-2000FPS. - Your advice, PLEASE.

yours, tex

Tatume
11-12-2016, 07:18 PM
Start here with the 286 grain bullet and H4895:

http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/

Reduce the load based on information here:

https://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/H4895%20Reduced%20Rifle%20Loads.pdf

You can easily achieve your goal with this combination. I've done it with many, many different rifle cartridges.

Take care, Tom

texasnative46
11-12-2016, 09:58 PM
Tatume,

THANKS, though I was hoping for a person here who has a "pet load" for 9.3x62 Mauser that they prefer & have used successfully for hunting, rather than a "starting load".
(FYI, I've got at least a half-dozen "pet loads" for .243, 6mm Remington, .257 Roberts, .300 Savage, etc. that I can give someone quite quickly, IF they ask a similar question that I asked. I regard "working up" loads from .60% of maximum as a lot of wasted effort IF one is only seeking "practical hunting accuracy". - Long range precision target shooting "at paper" is a quite different matter, imo.)

THANKS again, tex

Oklahoma Rebel
11-12-2016, 10:43 PM
you cant relie on someone else's "pet load" it will vary from gun to gun, it is something you have to spend time on. and you will find everyone here is nice, but just asking for an answer, instead of asking how to go about accomplishing something is frowned upon. it is like using their hard work and valuable time. but that being said welcome to the sight! and good luck with the 9.3x62, I have wanted a cz550 in that cal. for a while

dh2
11-12-2016, 11:55 PM
I have all ready been down this road , I am using a Accurate 27-285C mold and sizing it .368 for my custom 9.3x62mm Mauser and doing very well using the H4895 rule allowing it to be reduced to 60% of the max load, I am loading 45 gr. of H4895 with this boolit getting about 1800FPS and getting the one inch group that so many look for, I am using 75% of max load and happy with it. many 9.3 x 62mm Rifles are custom built rifles and every thing about them require that you do the latter work up on your load every time. This has worked so well that mine is a dedicated cast boolit shooter

5Shot
11-13-2016, 01:00 AM
My 35 Whelen is very similar, and I get one hole groups with 50 grains of WC852f and a 300grn NOE Thumper. WC852F is the same burn rate as H380.

There are 5 shots in the group at the bottom. The other shots were from a different load (but similar charge weight) and I figured it was bust so I just shot the next increment on the same target.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1447/24425867150_2959043602_b.jpg

Tatume
11-13-2016, 09:37 AM
I regard "working up" loads from 60% of maximum as a lot of wasted effort IF one is only seeking "practical hunting accuracy."

I'll bet dollars to donuts that the first reasonable H4895 load you try will achieve this goal.

texasnative46
11-13-2016, 02:00 PM
Oklahoma Rebel,

Fwiw, I'm sorry that you are offended by my OPINION/request.

Nonetheless, a few comments:
1. I've given my "pet loads" to numerous people over the years & was glad to help them.
2. It's been my experience that (at least for .30-06) that ALL of my various rifles in that caliber exhibit "very acceptable hunting accuracy" out to 250-300 meters using my "150 grain clone" of the M2 ball load for the 1903 Springfield/ US Rifle Model of 1917/Garand. - My current .30-06 rifles are:
a. Danish Garand, rebuilt in 1955 at Copenhagen Royal Arsenal,
b. "P-17"/"America Enfield" that was "re-arsenaled" at SAAD in 1936,
(Oddly that M1917 is the MOST accurate rifle that I own. - My 27YO nephew shot several 5-shot groups at a measured 200M last Fall & each could be covered with a US Silver Dollar. = His eyesight is MUCH better than mine now is.)
c. >30YO Remington Model 760 rifle,
d. >30YO Remington Model 742,
e. WWII Winchester Garand,
f. circa-1970 Remington Model 700BDL
and
g. 1955-built Garand by Berretta.
3. Additionally there are at least a half-dozen family members, who have successfully used my .30-06 reloads for hunting WT/hogs over the years in their various "hunting rifles".
(I'm the only "regular reloader" in my "near family", though nearly all of our family's adults/teenagers hunt at least occasionally, with the .30-06 being the "most used caliber".)
4. My 5 decades plus of "hunting/shooting experience" tells me that "properly manufactured rifles & carbines" vary LITTLE in "practical hunting accuracy" out to 200M.
(MOST "BIG & dangerous animals" are taken at 100M or less.)

Truthfully, I hope that yours is a "minority opinion" (& suspect that your opinion is "in the minority"), as I've found "reloaders" quite helpful to others over the last >50 years.

just my OPINIONS, tex

texasnative46
11-13-2016, 02:07 PM
5shot,

NICE GROUP. = For hunting, I would be 100% PLEASED to have shot that group with my 70YO eyes.
May I ask the range/distance of the shots??

yours, tex

texasnative46
11-13-2016, 02:20 PM
dh2,

My "new to me" circa 1965 Model 760 long-action, that was rebored/rechambered by JES, is just one of many that he has done in that caliber & I'm IMPRESSED by his mastery/consistency of his craft.
(I'd bet everything in my billfold that EVERY Model 760 that he's converted to 9.3x62 shoots similarly with "factory" or "quality" handloads out to 150-200M.)

Just my OPINION, tex

texasnative46
11-13-2016, 02:26 PM
Tatume,

I suspect that your opinion is 100% CORRECT. = Especially for WT/hogs in "the TX brush country", especially given that you can seldom SEE your quarry at more than 100M.
(In 2014, I got a 6-pointer at <25M out of a tree-stand.)

Addenda: 2 years ago, my 1st cousin took an OLD WT buck "that had nearly too many points to easily carry" at "16 long steps". - Randy said that, "It was hard to tell which of us was more surprised when I nearly stepped into 'his bedroom' but I got him, anyhow." = He was a "dead shot" with rifle, handgun, bow or XB & is the "most deadly meat hunter" that I've ever met.- Any number of our pack & troop's former & current Cub/Boy Scouts have US "thrown" quarters that Randy hit "in the air" with his old/"battle-scarred" 1950s Model 740 in .30-06.
(At 65YY, his eyes "are going" too & now uses a scoped rifle. - Happens to most of us! = !@#$%)

yours, tex

Oklahoma Rebel
11-13-2016, 04:17 PM
wow, I meant no harm, I have no ill feelings towards you, I have asked the very same question about "pet loads" for my 45-70, and gotten the answers I warned you about, so I was just letting you know ahead of time. but this group of people have all been nice and helpful, so my experience was different than yours. also, while I don't have as much experience as you, I am willing to help, if I know what I am talking about, if I don't know, I don't pretend like I do. and I am not a minority, whatever you meant by that. so don't read into things so much, I wish you the best of luck. Travis

Oklahoma Rebel
11-13-2016, 04:22 PM
looking back on my post, I can see how you would take it badly, I was describing how some of the people here felt when asked the same question. I have had people go on a rant that people these days are too lazy to read/ research things, they just ask others and piggyback off of their hard work. that was the response I got, wish I remembered who it was, but it was a long time ago. so no I don't feel that way, that's why I welcomed you to the site, and I still do, so enjoy it and forget about my post. it wasn't meant to anger you. have a good day!

texasnative46
11-13-2016, 05:22 PM
Oklahoma Rebel,

That's OK. - Fyi, LOTS of things, when written on the net, READ worse than they really are if said "in person". = I'm NOT mad at you/anyone.

Note: My father's NA family were all from Delaware County, though all of them have now "walked on".

yours, tex

5Shot
11-13-2016, 06:00 PM
5shot,

NICE GROUP. = For hunting, I would be 100% PLEASED to have shot that group with my 70YO eyes.
May I ask the range/distance of the shots??

yours, tex

100 yards for the 5 shots.

texasnative46
11-13-2016, 06:19 PM
5shots,

Once more: NICE group that I would be PLEASED to have made.

yours, satx

texasnative46
11-14-2016, 04:43 PM
To All,

All of the above discussion aside, I still am looking for your "pet hunting loads" for 9.3x62mm Mauser, presuming that you're willing to share.

yours, tex

Oklahoma Rebel
11-14-2016, 06:08 PM
alright, thanks, all is well, maybe when I finally get that CZ550 I will ask you for your pet loads,lol

Oklahoma Rebel
11-14-2016, 06:10 PM
do you have the lyman book, I think it is the 49th edition, or the lee 2nd edition, if you don't I can look up their loads and pass them on to you.

texasnative46
11-22-2016, 07:03 PM
OklahomaRebel,

NOPE. = I had to give away my collection of gun books & reloading manuals, when I suddenly had to flee to Texas to be a "caregiver". = NO room to haul anything more than a PU load.
(I gave away over 800 excellent books to the FCPL before I left, with the understanding that they would take them all, including the bookcases.)

Fwiw, I'm a VERY "untalented" caregiver but I was the ONE who was available & marginally better than nobody.

yours tex

texasnative46
04-06-2017, 02:33 AM
To All,

For what I call "practical hunting accuracy" with a 280 grain GCCB, 50 grains of Varget or 48 grains of IMR4895 seems quite adequate for most big game up to Elk/Bears/African Plains Game & in a majority of properly chambered rifles in good serviceable condition, out to 200M.
(You cannot kill an animal deader than GYD.)

just my opinion, tex

Oklahoma Rebel
04-06-2017, 04:14 PM
do any of you know the rate of twist for the CZ 550 FS 9.3X62?

OuchHot!
04-06-2017, 04:48 PM
they claim 1:14. I haven't measured mine.

Oklahoma Rebel
04-06-2017, 05:57 PM
thank you very much!