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mac60
10-23-2016, 12:01 PM
Had a combination of a little cool weather and some free time this morning. Covered up with pigs. Had a bunch right under the stand. Picked me out a small one (70 lbs. maybe) - about 10 ft. away from the base of the tripod. Lined up right behind the ear and touched it off. Shot right over it! Load was the Lee .312-185-1R (acww) over 21 gr. of 2400. I've never killed anything with a cb and before I try it on deer, I'm just looking for "proof of concept".

jhalcott
10-23-2016, 01:13 PM
Take my word on it, The castboolit WORKS! But YOU gotta do your part.

runfiverun
10-23-2016, 03:33 PM
you might be interested to know 2400 shoots different at the primer and at the boolit.

Jniedbalski
10-23-2016, 04:51 PM
What caliber are you loading .

mac60
10-23-2016, 07:55 PM
you might be interested to know 2400 shoots different at the primer and at the boolit.

You know, that's something that never crossed my mind. The load shoots fine at 100 yds. 1 1/2" groups. The angle was really steep, I guess I should have aimed a mite low. At any rate I missed clean - the shot was high.

jniedbalski - it's 30-06.

runfiverun
10-23-2016, 08:01 PM
you found out about how I did :lol:

turtlezx
10-23-2016, 08:13 PM
A miss at 10 ft
? you need to practice at all ranges

leeggen
10-23-2016, 08:33 PM
I think somebody jerked the trigger!!!!! Pig excitement/buck fever type thing. Can't beleive the boolit was that high at that short of a range. If the rifle was scoped it should have been about 1 1/2 inches below crosshairs. But you say you shot high so the excitment got to you.
Happens to alot of us. Every year I might as well shoot the first shot, at a deer, into the ground, but from then on I do great.
CD

CITYREPO61
10-23-2016, 09:25 PM
I'm sure most of us have missed a time or two. In my came more than that even. Lol

runfiverun
10-23-2016, 10:33 PM
<<<< had a pretty good run on Aspen trees for a while there.
I seem to get a little more nervous on the little guy's than I do on the bigger bucks.

Ole Joe Clarke
10-24-2016, 06:46 AM
You are always gonna shoot high when at an angle, that, coupled with hog fever, gave the pig a new lease on life.

justashooter
10-24-2016, 10:36 AM
you might be interested to know 2400 shoots different at the primer and at the boolit.

what he is saying is that you should use kapok pillow stuffing to hold the charge against the primer for uniformity of function.

runfiverun
10-24-2016, 10:49 AM
whenever I'm asked about a hunting load I generally go with a medium rifle powder 3031/4895/4064 and a filler to hold everything in place.
you get real nice groups and very uniform velocity figures, you get those same figures at 45* or 90* up or down hill too.
2400 responds to a filler well too, I use it in my 45-70.

what I found in my 0-6 with 2400 is that I could easily miss ground squirrels if I let the powder slide to the front of the case.
but that they are pretty easy to hit if I keep the barrel elevated and gently lower it into position.

Texas by God
10-24-2016, 01:58 PM
You know, that's something that never crossed my mind. The load shoots fine at 100 yds. 1 1/2" groups. The angle was really steep, I guess I should have aimed a mite low. At any rate I missed clean - the shot was high.

jniedbalski - it's 30-06.

We've been there. The steep angle got you. I lke to carry anH&R Topper 12 ga 18-1/2" with buckshot along with my rifle for these kinds of shots. It's only 5 lbs. Best, Thomas.

mac60
10-24-2016, 05:56 PM
You are always gonna shoot high when at an angle, that, coupled with hog fever, gave the pig a new lease on life.

Joe, when I say I shot high - I mean the boolit just missed. No excuses though - it was all me. That's the luckiest pig in Alabama. We are absolutely covered up with them and the land owner would just as soon see them gone. We have a lot of time and energy (not to mention money) in planting our green fields - they've destroyed all of it.

skeettx
10-24-2016, 06:02 PM
REMEMBER the bore line is way lower than the iris of the scope.

Close shooting requires an adjustment.

Get back in the stand and use a large piece of cardboard with aiming point
and see how you will have to hold when close shooting in the future.
Well worth the effort.

Congrats on being able to pull the trigger, many do NOT even get that far in pig hunting
Mike

mac60
10-24-2016, 06:40 PM
Mike, that's good insight. I might just do that - climb up in the stand and put a target where it was standing, just to see for myself. Not gonna have any time this week though. Appreciate your thoughts on the subject.

runfiverun
10-24-2016, 09:27 PM
if you got Pigs I got time,,,, and rifles that need testing.
I could bring out 15 or so and you could have all kinds of rifles/loads to check out.
I could come back later with another 15 lever guns, and once again with milsurp rifles.
:kidding:

mac60
10-26-2016, 04:55 PM
if you got Pigs I got time,,,, and rifles that need testing.
I could bring out 15 or so and you could have all kinds of rifles/loads to check out.
I could come back later with another 15 lever guns, and once again with milsurp rifles.
:kidding:

You'd be welcome, but the commute would be a drag. No feral swine in Idaho?

mozeppa
10-26-2016, 05:30 PM
oka ...it's really simple ...if you are sighted in at 100 yards dead zero....and then you try to shoot straight down only 10 feet, you're not compensating for bullet drop.

at 100 yards your bullet is coming out of the gun below your sight scope about 2 inches give or take a bit.
the bullet is on an upward trajectory and it crosses your cross hairs and continues on an upward line of travel til it reaches its apogee...then it starts to run out of gas and starts dropping a bit ...maybe 4 to 5 inches (a guess)
but at 100 yards it drops into the dead center of your aiming point.

now.

when shooting 10 feet straight down, there is no apogee arc that gravity would give that bullet...so...
your shot was at best 4 to 5 inches + the 2 inches of scope height high from the start.

that's why you missed just over his head.