Resizing 303 Brit to 30-40 krag trouble

[webradbury]

I tried a few 303 brass, running them through the 30-40 sizing die but they don't look quite right. I knew the neck would be a little short but the shoulder geometry looks different between a resized 303 and a sized 30-40 krag when side by side.

Has as anyone had this happen? I have not tried to chamber one yet.

[tdoor4570]

If they will chamber then fire form and you will be all right

[webradbury]

I've never done fire forming before. I'll have to research that and try it. I am hesitant because I don't want to damage a chamber, but with two Krags to feed and no brass available (read affordable) I have to do something. Will

Forgot to mention that I tried them and they do chamber ok.

[BK7saum]

Just load a starting /normal load and fire away. If the chamber has correct (not excessive ) headspace the cases will fireform just fine. If the chamber is a bit oversize, back off on the sizing die until the case will just chamber and will headspace off the shoulder, not the rim.

[Der Gebirgsjager]

Believe me.. good advice! More advice, after fire forming, neck size only when you reload. That will greatly extend the life of your brass. It might not hurt to anneal the necks after the first firing. Neck sized brass should be reused in the rifle in which it was originally fired, and may or may not be interchangeable between your two rifles as the chamber dimensions may vary.

[webradbury]

Thanks all. The barrels are knew from Numrich so the chambers are fine.

[Shiloh]

I anneal every 5-6 or so firings. Even so, after about 40 loadings, I get more splits. I have enough for a while. Getting tough to find brass at any price.

Shiloh

[nicholst55]

I'm really hoping that Starline will start producing Krag brass, now that they're making bottleneck rifle brass. Guess we need to tell them what we want...

ETA: I just sent them an email and asked them to start producing Krag brass.

[Mr Humble]

I guess I am missing something here. Loaded Krag ammo is available all over the place. If you buy 5 boxes of the same and pull the bullets, you have 100 30 caliber bullets you can sell for 20 bucks. The powder will all be the same, weighing 5 and dividing by 5 will give you the charge. You can then go to your loading book and figure out what it's equivilant too. Then you can use it too in the Krag or most anything else. Then use a universal decap die and salvage the primers. Now you have 100 new cases. Neck anneal them and they should last easily 10 and probably 20 cast boolit loads if you don't FL size them.

I bought mine for 30 bucks a box or $150 to be able shoot my $1000 Krag forever with no issues of having ammo around with the wrong headstamp on it.

[Shiloh]

That's how you have to do it if you want brass.
Up until a couple of years ago, you could buy unfired brass.

Shiloh

[Mr Humble]

Uhhhh NO, it is not how you HAVE to do it, it how you CHOOSE to do it.

Having cartridges around with the incorrect headstamp in an invitation to a disaster.

Having seen a moron load 8x57s made from 30-06 cases in a 30-06 and shoot them with the predictable results, (destroyed rifle and a face full of brass/powder)(happily wearing glasses), I really try to avoid needless chances like saving a few bucks by not buying readily available ammo.

So you can buy new 303 Privi brass for about 45 bucks to your door.
My method, net of the bullets, powder and primers, costs say 80 bucks more.

ONE dinner out with the wife w/o needing a seeing eye dog to take you........

Use K-Mart motor oil in your $50,000 truck too ?

[EDG]

You might want to read what he is doing. He is reforming .303 to .30-40 Krag so your comment is incorrect.


Uhhhh NO, it is not how you HAVE to do it, it how you CHOOSE to do it.

Having cartridges around with the incorrect headstamp in an invitation to a disaster.

Having seen a moron load 8x57s made from 30-06 cases in a 30-06 and shoot them with the predictable results, (destroyed rifle and a face full of brass/powder)(happily wearing glasses), I really try to avoid needless chances like saving a few bucks by not buying readily available ammo.

So you can buy new 303 Privi brass for about 45 bucks to your door.
My method, net of the bullets, powder and primers, costs say 80 bucks more.

ONE dinner out with the wife w/o needing a seeing eye dog to take you........

Use K-Mart motor oil in your $50,000 truck too ?

[Mr Humble]

I know EXACTLY what he is doing. Chances are if one of his 303/30-40s was fired in a 303, the bullet would rattle down the bore. I still maintain that having cartridges with the wrong headstamp WHEN brass with the correct headstamp is easily available is foolish.

[curator]

Graf & Son's ad in Oct/Nov 2016 Handloader (page 29) claims to have Graff .30-40 Krag brass at $42.99/50. www.grafs.com

[square butte]

The Graf and Sons website shows it out of stock .

[fatelk]

I know EXACTLY what he is doing. Chances are if one of his 303/30-40s was fired in a 303, the bullet would rattle down the bore. I still maintain that having cartridges with the wrong headstamp WHEN brass with the correct headstamp is easily available is foolish.

I'm not sure that your point will be very well taken, considering that this is the "Case Forming/Reforming" sub-forum. I expect that most people posting or reading here will be making and shooting cartridges with the wrong headstamp.

[EDG]

Dear MR HUMBLE

In post #11 you admonished him to buy .303 brass but he is shooting a .30-40 Krag. So you tell us how he is not supposed to have the wrong head stamp using the brass that YOU RECOMMENDED?
He is shooting a .30-40 Krag and unless you have been locked up you should know that Krag brass has not been readily available for most of the Obama years.

So please explain how you think he will not have the wrong headstamp if he uses the .303 PPU brass that you recommended for use in his Krag??????????????



I know EXACTLY what he is doing. Chances are if one of his 303/30-40s was fired in a 303, the bullet would rattle down the bore. I still maintain that having cartridges with the wrong headstamp WHEN brass with the correct headstamp is easily available is foolish.
Uhhhh NO, it is not how you HAVE to do it, it how you CHOOSE to do it.

Having cartridges around with the incorrect headstamp in an invitation to a disaster.

Quoting more Mr Humble from post #11.
Having seen a moron load 8x57s made from 30-06 cases in a 30-06 and shoot them with the predictable results, (destroyed rifle and a face full of brass/powder)(happily wearing glasses), I really try to avoid needless chances like saving a few bucks by not buying readily available ammo.

So you can buy new 303 Privi brass for about 45 bucks to your door.
My method, net of the bullets, powder and primers, costs say 80 bucks more.

ONE dinner out with the wife w/o needing a seeing eye dog to take you........

Use K-Mart motor oil in your $50,000 truck too ?

[Mr Humble]

Oh boy. I won't comment on trying to shut me up as "it won't be taken kindly".

Now, my point in mentioning the 303 brass price was NOT to suggest it's use, nor did I. It's called "compare and contrast". I was "comparing" the price of reformed 303 brass with the cost to buy loaded 30-40 and tear it down. Really chump change to a serious shooter/caster/reloader.
I was "contrasting" the safety of using properly headstamped brass to that with a different headstamp.

According to RCBS you just don't slap a 303 in a 30-40 die and then shoot it. They make a $45.00 forming dies to do the task.

Of course people on this thread are interested in making cases to keep guns chambered for obsolete cartridges working. I make my 41 Swiss centerfires from 8mm Lebel and don't let them anywhere near an 8mm Lebel rifle. In the case of the 30-40 it is not obsolete by any stretch, Ruger even chambered rifles for it within the past 15 years.

If you are too frugal to do it right, that's fine but DON'T make veiled threats to try and silence the opposition !

[fatelk]

Ouch, someone stepped on your toes. I had to go back and read my post to make sure it wasn't me, but I didn't see how anyone else did either. It certainly wasn't my intent if you took it that way. Veiled threats? Shutting you up? Silencing the opposition? There must have been a deleted post I missed somewhere...

[Blackhawk357]

Nice thread on resizing brass, but well I will not state the obvious. Good luck on your resizing brass. I make 30 Herrit from 30-30 Winchester and really enjoy the process. I have killed several deer with my Contender in 30 H. Enjoy your hobby and continue to size on.

[Ballistics in Scotland]

Uhhhh NO, it is not how you HAVE to do it, it how you CHOOSE to do it.

Having cartridges around with the incorrect headstamp in an invitation to a disaster.

Having seen a moron load 8x57s made from 30-06 cases in a 30-06 and shoot them with the predictable results, (destroyed rifle and a face full of brass/powder)(happily wearing glasses), I really try to avoid needless chances like saving a few bucks by not buying readily available ammo.

So you can buy new 303 Privi brass for about 45 bucks to your door.
My method, net of the bullets, powder and primers, costs say 80 bucks more.

ONE dinner out with the wife w/o needing a seeing eye dog to take you........

Use K-Mart motor oil in your $50,000 truck too ?

The .303 cases formed to .30-40 wouldn't chamber in most .303 rifles, but would be harmless if they did. As long as the bullet was flat-based and not unduly heavily jacketed, it would probably give reasonable accuracy. The OP may not even have a .303 to encounter this imaginary danger in, but if he did, the answer lies in a large felt-tip to write ".30-40 Krag" on the box. How many of us identify our cartridges by reading the headstamp before shooting?

It even used to be fairly frequent practice in Canada to shoot .303 cartridges in rifles chambered for the Krag, although they may been the stronger 1895 Winchester. It isn't to be recommended, especially in the Krag, but we don't seem to hear of mishaps. Making 8x57 from .30-06, however, is recommended, by John J. Donnelly in his "Handloader's Manual of Cartridge Conversions". Still, it is only the standard work on the subject. What did he know?

[Mr Humble]

fatelk twas your post: "I'm not sure that your point will be very well taken."

By whom ? Why ? Preaching safe reloading is a dumb idea ? Look, I don't care what you do, but IMHO it is silly to make up cases when correct ones are easy to obtain. If saving 80 cents per case for cases that will last forever in cast boolit applications, it that important, then do it.

[Ballistics in Scotland]

It is just that preaching safer-than-safe reloading, when there isn't actually any danger in using .303 cases, merits full and unattacked coverage of the other idea.

[Dan Cash]

I think Mr. Humble lost his humble; perhaps it is in a pie.

[Jeff Michel]

Opinions vary but, I've been running 303 Brit brass through 30-40 dies for years and never had a bit of trouble from mixing cases due to different head stamp. I would use 30-40 brass if I could find it. To choose a perfectly safe alternative to paying out the kazoo for loaded ammo is not necessarily a mortal sin.

[EDG]

According to ME who has done it you can easily form .303 brass in a .30-40 Krag FL die and fire it in a Krag and it does not even require trimming unless the brass is uneven at the case mouth.

Now here is the best part of your post.
There is no need to buy a .30-40 Krag trim die. Since the .30-40 Krag trim die (and cases and chamber) are LONGER than a .303 case you accomplish just about zero with a .30-40 trim die. Sure you can push the shoulder back but the .303 case will never in a million years reach the top of the .30-40 Krag trim die so it can be TRIMMED. All the forming you need to do can be done in a .30-40 Krag FL die. All it does is push the shoulder back on the .303 cases. All buying a .30-40 Krag trim die does is improve the cash flow at RCBS. BTW I have formed hundreds of new and once fired .303 cases to 6.5X53R Dutch Mannlicher. Guess what? It involves necking down the case and pushing the shoulder back to about the same location as the shoulder on a Krag case. However the 6.5X53R case is shorter than the .303 so you can actually use the Dutch trim die to trim the .303 cases after forming.
But that is no big deal. RCBS will even sell you a trim die for both the .25 ACP and .45 ACP rounds. When was the last time you trimmed one of those??

Not only that but you can form .30-40 Krag in a .303 FL die and shoot it in a .303 with only a bit of trimming. In fact in years past Remington .30-40 Krag was about .455 diameter at the head and it made better fitting and longer lasting brass for the .303 than did US made .303 brass.

What you actually did was think you were suggesting using new .303 brass (instead of .30-40 brass) in a .303 rifle. You did not pay attention to the fact that the OP wanted to shoot it in a .30-40 Krag. So YOUR SUGGESTION was to use the brass with the WRONG headstamp.
BTW No one threatened you with anything except. Like I said in my previous post new .30-40 Krag brass is about as common as rocking horse poo since the years of Bill Clinton. The lack of .30-40 brass is the real motivation for using .303 brass. If you don't like the head stamp you can always put it in a lathe and skive off a ring of material over just part of the lettering. You will effectively have no head stamp something like military brass that does not have the cartridge designation on the head.


Oh boy. I won't comment on trying to shut me up as "it won't be taken kindly".

Now, my point in mentioning the 303 brass price was NOT to suggest it's use, nor did I. It's called "compare and contrast". I was "comparing" the price of reformed 303 brass with the cost to buy loaded 30-40 and tear it down. Really chump change to a serious shooter/caster/reloader.
I was "contrasting" the safety of using properly headstamped brass to that with a different headstamp.

According to RCBS you just don't slap a 303 in a 30-40 die and then shoot it. They make a $45.00 forming dies to do the task.

Of course people on this thread are interested in making cases to keep guns chambered for obsolete cartridges working. I make my 41 Swiss centerfires from 8mm Lebel and don't let them anywhere near an 8mm Lebel rifle. In the case of the 30-40 it is not obsolete by any stretch, Ruger even chambered rifles for it within the past 15 years.

If you are too frugal to do it right, that's fine but DON'T make veiled threats to try and silence the opposition !

[Kraschenbirn]

Would like to know where Mr. Humble is getting 30-40 Krag FACTORY loads for $30/box. When I first got my carbine, five or six years ago, there was NO over-the-counter 30-40 Krag factory ammo available anywhere within 100 miles...LGS, gun-shows, big-box; tried 'em all. Finally ran across (2) shop-worn boxes of Remington in a sporting goods store up along the IL-WI line...for $47.50 a box!! And, that was almost six years back, long before 30-40 production was discontinued completely. Started loading using .303 Brit cases but eventually accumulated enough genuine 30-40 to discontinue the practice. However, should I ever begin to run short of 30-40 cases, wouldn't hesitate to go back to forming from .303 again.

Bill

[Mr Humble]

Must be a lot of Democraps on this site, given the amount of Argumentum ad Hominem.

I bought my newest Krag last spring and got my ammo from Cabellas.

As I said, I really could care less what you do.

The need of several of you to have me roll over is a symptom of a serious OCD problem.

Sorry, not gonna happen, I have plenty of the right brass and really have no need to control what you do.

All done with this thread..... Too many of what Mr. Herter used to call "drugstore cowboys".

Rant away ..... you'll be taking to the mirror !

[JMax]

My quite rude, this is the case forming/reforming section so such comments are not needed.

I have a Krag and will scrounge up a few 303 cases and give it a try before my meager supply drys up. Thanks to all those who offered their expertise.

[EDG]

Did you ever figure out the OP was going to shoot .303 brass in a Krag?


Must be a lot of Democraps on this site, given the amount of Argumentum ad Hominem.

I bought my newest Krag last spring and got my ammo from Cabellas.

As I said, I really could care less what you do.

The need of several of you to have me roll over is a symptom of a serious OCD problem.

Sorry, not gonna happen, I have plenty of the right brass and really have no need to control what you do.

All done with this thread..... Too many of what Mr. Herter used to call "drugstore cowboys".

Rant away ..... you'll be taking to the mirror !

[fatelk]

Honestly I thought that my post was civil and unoffensive to even the most thin-skinned. I truly did not mean to offend. I apologize and take my exit now. Have a good day everyone.

[blixen]

I can't speak for the OP, but here's my takeaway: I've got a Krag sporter. I bought 100 unfired brass two years ago that i'm still using. I just checked everywhere on line and can't find any Krag brass factory loaded or unprimed. If no one starts making 30-40 brass in the next year, I have a can full of various .303 brass--that i will size into slightly short 30-40.

I will dip the heads into brass blackener so that I won't confuse them with my original 30-40 or un-resized .303.

I don't own a .303 right now, so i feel pretty safe.

Thanks to you folks who offered resizing/fire-forming tips.

[Ballistics in Scotland]

Honestly I thought that my post was civil and unoffensive to even the most thin-skinned. I truly did not mean to offend. I apologize and take my exit now. Have a good day everyone.

That's what most of us thought. Come back soon.

[EDG]

You were never the problem. You can often get a sense of a person's behavior by looking at other posts made on this site and other sites.

Note this guy's location. He appears all over the net with that location and many different handles.

http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9421043/m/8401082761



Honestly I thought that my post was civil and unoffensive to even the most thin-skinned. I truly did not mean to offend. I apologize and take my exit now. Have a good day everyone.

[leadman]

Makes one wonder why he even entered this section of the forum.

As to fireforming, I do it frequently and use the following method most of the time.
I use whatever appropriate primer I have, most being from pull-downs. Then load around 10 to 13grs of a fast powder like Unique a medium sized case. Then fill to the top with Cream of Wheat cereal and tap the case to settle it to make room for a wax or boolit lube plug to keep everything in the case. If it forms completely with the powder charge fine, if not I add a little powder until it does.
Works best if you can point the muzzle towards the sky, but the RSOs at the public range would escort me off the lot to never return, so I point it downrange if there.

[Ballistics in Scotland]

I've got a large aluminium cylinder with walls and base about 5/16in. thick, which I used for oil quenching in the days when I made knives with 13in. blades. I bought a CO2 cylinder used for the improvement and pressurized delivery of beer, and had someone machine-hacksaw off the connector end. I found that I could fireform cases into it, with the barrel well wrapped around in an old blanket. If I was adapting one specially for this, I would enlarge the opening only to about an inch and a quarter, and wrap the barrel with a piece of split foam pipe insulating sleeve.

It is hard to say how my impression, that it was no louder than slamming a closet door, was accurate. I was living in a rural location, but my only close neighbour, a very understanding old lady a hundred yards away, never noticed anything when I did it outdoors. It was clean enough to do indoors if you are single.

[GOPHER SLAYER]

I bought a heavy barrel [very heavy]rifle several years ago that is chambered for the 40-60 Maynard. I don't know where you could buy those cases without refinancing the homestead. The cartridge can be made by reforming the 30-40 Krag to the 40-60 Maynard. First I anneal the neck and shoulder of the Krag case. After annealing and the case has cooled I load the case with 15 grains of Unique topped by a case full of corn meal and fire it. If it doesn't quite form the first time I just do it again. You can also use the 303 British although it is a bit shorter. I have used both but as you know the 303 is much easier to find, even occasionaly picked up at the range. I have been reloading since 1959 and I don't remember ever picking up a Krag case at the range. Works for me.

[JMax]

I was able to scrounge up 72 cases, fire formed them and am including a comparison photo. Off to the range tomorrow for test firing for accuracy.

[tdoor4570]

I have been using 303 Brit brass to feed my Krags for years I just can't believe that some people freak out over head stamps. If you can't tell the difference between an 8x57 and a 30-06 with out reading the head stamp you don't need either one

[justashooter]

I bought a CO2 cylinder used for the improvement and pressurized delivery of beer, and had someone machine-hacksaw off the connector end. I found that I could fireform cases into it, with the barrel well wrapped around in an old blanket.

Years ago I built a "bird box" out of scraps of 1X6 pine, with a 1.5" hole in one end. it hangs over my reloading bench, c-clamped to a shelf, there since the last time I fire-formed 30-30 cases into 38-55 in a single shot that I have. it's prolly half full of COW.

[JMax]

Range was successful, no discernible difference in groups at 100 yards, very happy:Fire:

[EDG]

Sometimes you have no choice if you are experimenting.
One of my projects was to find out if you can make long lasting .303 cases from Hornady .405 Win.
I found out that you could but the necks might require turning and the rims are on the thick side.
They are expensive but they would probably make long lasting brass for a Krag too though they are a lot of work.


I have been using 303 Brit brass to feed my Krags for years I just can't believe that some people freak out over head stamps. If you can't tell the difference between an 8x57 and a 30-06 with out reading the head stamp you don't need either one

[Pavogrande]

My, how times have changed -- in the fifty's we were making 303 brass out 30/40 --

I have about 8 krags to feed and was lucky enough to get an additional 550 new win brass a couple years ago for a VERY reasonable price... you really don't want to know how much.

Mr humble must work for osha -- trying to create unsafe acts for job security :-)

[DrDucati]

unable to find 30-40 anywhere, loaded OR unloaded. :-(

[Stewbaby]

unable to find 30-40 anywhere, loaded OR unloaded. :-(

? This help?

http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/73152

[JMax]

Got a hundred rounds and it sold out the first day

[retread]

Just checked Grafs and Krag brass is in stock.

[longbow]

Not trying to stir things up but if using brass with the wrong headstamp is so unsafe then what about cartridges that are loaded differently depending on which gun they will be shot in... for example the extremely popular .45-70 which is commonly loaded for at least three different classes of gun: trapdoor Springfield, 1895 Marlin, and Ruger #1 or Siamese Mauser? All have the same headstamp but if a round loaded for the Ruger #1/Siamese Mauser class ever wound up in a Trapdoor Springfield then it would surely come apart. That does not seem very high on anyone's unsafe to do list. another would be .45 Long Colt.

Marlin tried the safe approach by bringing out the .450 Marlin as a safe alternative to hot loading .45-70 and look where that got them.

As stated, one has to be responsible and keep these cartridges segregated for use only in suitable guns and/or mark them so they are obviously not the standard round.

[17nut]

The world is overpopulated, let Darwin sort them.

Personally i mark cases that is used for a different caliber than intended:
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[longbow]

17nut:

There you go! But I thought headstamps had to be correct in Denmark... or maybe it was a member in the Netherlands that commented on not being able to form cartridges if headstamp was wrong.

Just curious.

Longbow

[EDG]

If you use military brass with no nomenclature you have the same problem even when the brass is used in the correct rifle.

I have a lot of SL54 30-06 brass and it is used in many different rifles none of which is 30-06,



17nut:

There you go! But I thought headstamps had to be correct in Denmark... or maybe it was a member in the Netherlands that commented on not being able to form cartridges if headstamp was wrong.

Just curious.

Longbow

[longbow]

There's another good point. I have military .308 brass and .308 brass I have formed form .30-06, .270, .280 and others along with lots of headstamped .308 brass. Opposite to your scenario, I have lots of different brass formed for use in one gun.

Also, in your case there is no misleading headstamp to indicate it is okay to put that .30-06 round into wrong chambered gun. Not sure just what chambers would accept .30-06 and make a dangerous situation, if any.

For someone who has no experience and knowledge of cartridges, calibers, etc. it could be an easy mistake to make if they got someone's "incorrectly" head stamped brass. As reloaders we need to keep track of what we are doing and where those cartridges go. In many cases the incorrectly headstamped cartridge won't chamber in the gun it is headstamped for but some do. I have no problem forming brass from "incorrect" cartridges but do not go handing out my reloads to just anyone especially those not familiar with guns and ammunition. I doubt most reloaders do regardless of headstamp.

Longbow

[Eddie Southgate]

I will make cases from others if I have to but I will always buy the correct cases when they are available . I have made 7/08 out of .243 or .308 when I had no 7/08 cases and needed them right now but I am anal about keeping these segregated from all other cases .

Eddie

[Idaho Mule]

All of my wife's .260 Remington cases say 243, that's what I could find at the time. We don't have a 243 on the place so no confusion yet. As far as my 6.5x57, well they are all stamped as 8x57. After 30 plus years my 25-06 is finally getting properly stamped brass instead of LC43. JW

[17nut]

17nut:

There you go! But I thought headstamps had to be correct in Denmark... or maybe it was a member in the Netherlands that commented on not being able to form cartridges if headstamp was wrong.

Just curious.

Longbow

Noone gives a hoot here!
If you f**k up its your own problem and at best they smack you on the back of the neck with a car antenna.
If you blindly trust and fire someones reloads and your rifle dismantles all by itself then its your problem, no suing anyone for anything.
We are almost encouraged to put a little clorine in the geene pool via the Darwin method.

[JMax]

Yelp I just ordered another 100 rounds:Fire: :castmine:

[Multigunner]

I had thought of over stamping the headstamp on cases reformed for another chambering but then I read of some disasterously bad U S milspec .30-06 manufactured in the 1920's where the caseheads split because a primer staking punch too long on one side work hardened one side of the primer pocket and caused a crack to form. I guess banging away on the case heads with hammer and punch is not such a good idea.

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[MUSTANG]

Noone gives a hoot here!
If you f**k up its your own problem and at best they smack you on the back of the neck with a car antenna.
If you blindly trust and fire someones reloads and your rifle dismantles all by itself then its your problem, no suing anyone for anything.
We are almost encouraged to put a little clorine in the geene pool via the Darwin method.

Gee, I wish our US politicians could learn a few things from the Danes.

[fiberoptik]

Gee, I wish our US politicians could learn a few things from the Danes.

Nah, can't teach politicians anything!!


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[fiberoptik]

Why don't sharks 🦈 eat lawyers or politicians??


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[fiberoptik]

They don't eat their own kind!


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[garrisonjoe]

Also have recently found Hornady made 30-40 Krag brass at Midway.
Good luck, garrisonjoe

[john.k]

Very easy ...Ive resized loaded military 303 to fit a 30/40 95 Winchester by simply running a 8mm die down and setting back the shoulder about 1/8".