Do I need gas checks?

[gunnut1]

I have a Lee 90350 .45 230 grain 6 cavity micro grove mould. I have cast boolits with this mould and I need to know if I need gas checks? I sized the boolits with a Lee .451 resizing setup and tumbled lubed with Alox.

Gas checks: Yes, no, maybe?

[mto7464]

That mold is not made for gas checks is it??

[Hickok]

No need for GC's.

[wistlepig1]

I would say NO, not knowing what gun your using and what "V" you are shooting for. If you are shooting a 45ACP no, something else that may change. Remember size of bullit is KING for leading!

[gunnut1]

They will be shot in a 1911. Hard lead. The load will be 5.5 +- grains of Titegroup.

Thanks for the answers. I am fairly new to boolit casting and still learning.

[jcren]

No check for that bullet. I have the tc version and have pushed them pretty hard in 45 colt with no problems. I do powder coat however, those tl molds pc nicely.

[Bonz]

They will be shot in a 1911. Hard lead. The load will be 5.5 +- grains of Titegroup.

Thanks for the answers. I am fairly new to boolit casting and still learning.

my Lee manual states 230 grain lead bullet - Titegroup 4.0 -> 4.8 grains (maximum)

[gunnut1]

my Lee manual states 230 grain lead bullet - Titegroup 4.0 -> 4.8 grains (maximum)

Thanks! I have been loading 200 grain truncrated hollow points. Just pulled that data out of my brain. Hornady recommends a starting load of 4.2 grains with a 230 grain cast bullet.

[Frank V]

In my experience you won't need GCs with a handgun unless your velocity gets over about 1200fps.
Especially with a .45. Doesn't sound like your mold is cut for GCs so I wouldn't bother.

[Lead Fred]

166010
No check needed

I dont use mould, and I had Lee make me a .453 sizer.

[Wayne Smith]

Don't need hard lead, either. I use air cooled wheel weight metal or 50/50 ww/pb.

[6622729]

Don't need hard lead, either. I use air cooled wheel weight metal or 50/50 ww/pb.

Agree! Don't go any harder than WW. You don't need GC for this bullet in .45 .

[sandman228]

I own this mold and have shot this bullet in multiple 45's over the years . I don't gas check it ,I don't size it (it drops at .453-.453.5) just tumble lube it, load it , shoot it . I currently own a glock 21 sf it shoots accurate and does not lead .

[gray wolf]

I agree with many here, You don't need hard lead, .451 is going to be iffy, I would go with .452/ .4525
Get back on track with your load data, don't pull things from memory, bad things happen.
Not just to you but someone may see that and think it's OK.
Like it or not, We have a plethora of new careless people in the hobby now.
+ you do not have to water drop in case that was the next ?

[flyingmonkey35]

I cast the lube groove version on this boolit.

Powder coat and shoot over 4.7 grains if tight group.

Very nice shooter

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[44man]

Find a very large field and toss the TL Alox as far as you can and shoot it with a shotgun. Use REAL lube.

[mdi]

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?65035-Can-I-shoot-a-gas-check-design-with-out-the-gas-check

[fastdadio]

my Lee manual states 230 grain lead bullet - Titegroup 4.0 -> 4.8 grains (maximum)

Speer #11 says the same thing. Been loading at 4.5gr of TG, powder coated, no checks. 100s of rounds fired with nothing but a shiny bore to show for it. Might want to double check the data.

[Frank V]

Someone mentioned wheel weights, I have used wheel weights for handgun bullets for probably 40 years. I have no intention of switching unless WWs get hard or impossible to come by. They work great for me.:guntootsmiley:

[Lloyd Smale]

yes sir and ill add that most of the tl mold designs belong there too. That and don't rule out harder alloys. Ive owned at least a dozen 1911s over the years and 4 25 smiths and everyone of them gave better accuracy with bullets around 18bhn then they did with bullets at 12 and gave even better accuracy with even harder alloys. Its just tough justifying using up my lineotype to cast them. pretty good place to try some water dropped ww and a good bullet design like the H&G 200 swc or a copy of it.
Find a very large field and toss the TL Alox as far as you can and shoot it with a shotgun. Use REAL lube.

[6622729]

Find a very large field and toss the TL Alox as far as you can and shoot it with a shotgun. Use REAL lube.

Is your issue with Alox for just the 45 handgun load or for all calibers? I use the Recluse 45/45/10 formula and like it. What do you consider "real" lube?

[Frank V]

I'd just lubrisize that bullet load it & enjoy it. I think it'll work well.