Saeco 315

[Ben]

I've taken a keen interest of late in the SAECO # 315. I purchased the mold recently ( ** Pricey ! ! ** ), however I don't regret a penny of it now.

Are any of you shooting the " 315 " , if so what kind of results are you getting with the bullet?

I've read so many positive things about the bullet from benchrest shooters that I thought it was time for me to try the bullet. Everyone that I've discussed this bullet with says that throat fit is critical ( isn't it with all cast rifle bullets ...), this one must be fitting the throat in my Ruger # 1 , 308 Win. pretty well.

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I decided before the summer heat kicks in, that I'd better get out early this morning and cast a few hundred of these;

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[GabbyM]

Where does that bullet end up seating in a 308? Do you have lube groves exposed above the case neck?
I see it's the 175 grain 30-30 bullet.

BTW Nice.

[Scrounger]

I'd be in for a Group Buy of this one.

[Maven]

Ben, I've been using the Saeco #315 (3 cav. and a bit pricey) in my .30-06 @ .311"; my .30-30Win. (Marlin #336, microgroove, but since sold), and my two K-31's @ .309". It has been an excellent performer in all 4 rifles and the mold is a pleasure to cast with.

[Ben]

Maven:

These bullets " jump " from the mold when it is opened.

If you've ever " tap - tap- tapped " a mold trying to free a bullet , you can appreciate what I'm saying about this one.

Like I said, I don't regret a penny of the $80 or so dollars that I spent on this one.

Fine mold ! !

Ben

[Ben]

GabbyM;

I end up with about 2 lube grooves out of the case in the 308 Win. This OAL allows the rifling to " bite " about 1/64" of an inch of the bullet's 1st driving band ( It mikes .302 ) when the action is closed on the loaded round.

Ben

[Boomer Mikey]

The tapered design of this boolit makes it easy to engrave the lands to your liking in a wide variety of bores. It's larger base helps to the fill the throat as well.

Saeco has several molds using the tapered design feature and they seem to do very well in a wide variety of applications.

The only drawback is the COL may be too long to feed if you have a long throat.

It's best to size these nose first if they're too large to chamber.

I was turned onto this boolit by the bench rest bunch too... Mikey likes it.

Boomer

[Scrounger]

So how about a Group Buy for it???

[runfiverun]

think lee could get this one right?
6 banger might be nice though.......

[Ben]

Boomer Mikey:

What you say is true about the OAL and cartridge feed problems in a lot of rifles with the SAECO # 315.

I guess there are real advantages to shooting a Ruger # 1,
No feed problems with this one................

Ben

[Boomer Mikey]

Boomer Mikey:

What you say is true about the OAL and cartridge feed problems in a lot of rifles with the SAECO # 315.

I guess there are real advantages to shooting a Ruger # 1,
No feed problems with this one................

Ben


Yup,

I use these in an Encore 308 and a Contender 30-30 barrel... 30-30 has a long enough neck to use these in lever and bolt actions most of the time. Of course you could single feed them like the bench rest guys do too.

The 2C mold is $80, 3C $129, 4C $135 from Midway, no 6-9 month wait.

Boomer

[quasi]

I love Saeco molds, they are much nicer than Lymans to cast with.

[LAH]

I love Saeco molds, they are much nicer than Lymans to cast with.

While I won't make that statement across the board I'll mostly agree with you. Saeco makes one fine mould.......Creeker

[Newtire]

If you've ever " tap - tap- tapped " a mold trying to free a bullet , you can appreciate what I'm saying about this one.

Like I said, I don't regret a penny of the $80 or so dollars that I spent on this one.

Fine mold ! !

Ben

Now I know what a 315 looks like. I have the 316 and it's not as angular as that one. I am sure surprised at how well it shoots though. I have never seen a Saeco Mould I didn't like. The last mould I bought was a Saeco #322 for the .32-20 and boy does it shoot. It even works well for a plinker in .30 rifles-plain base & all.

I think I would buy one of those also if I didn't have other things to worry about right now. Great looking boolit!

[Cimarron Red]

I'm interested in the Saeco 315 (as well as the tapered bullets for the .38-55.) What are the diameters of the 315? If I lube with a lubri-sizer, should I use a die large enough to leave the bullet diameter untouched? I have no experience with tapered designs. Thanks for the help.

[SwedeNelson]

Ben

I would like to get some samples of this bullet.
Can you help me out.

Swede Nelson

[RU shooter]

Ben have you ever shot the lyman 311467 since its a similar design and weight how did it compare to the 315.


Tim

[BCall]

Someone please get Swede some boolits to measure, I'm drooling already thinking about a 5 cavity 315. I'll be one of the first in line for a group buy!

[rhbrink]

Ben

I would like to get some samples of this bullet.
Can you help me out.

Swede Nelson

How many do you want? This boolit works in a lot of rifles very well indeed. Shoots very well in my Mosin feeds great in that rifle. Sized down works very well for paperpatch also.

[BarryinIN]

Ben

I would like to get some samples of this bullet.
Can you help me out.

Swede Nelson

I have plenty if you need them (if Ben shot all his up).

I've only messed around with it a little bit over the past year, but have had success with everything I've tried it in, from a Savage 99 .300 Sav through some .308s, to an M1941 Johnson.

Truthfully, what has been happening is I try a few loads in a rifle and they all do fine so I don't proceed any further fine tuning them. It might do better with some more fiddling, or it might do just OK across the board, but everything I've tried has been at the very least "useable".

I like the taper. I think that lets it work in so many different rifles for me.
I lube the lower three bands when I size. That seems to be plenty, and any more leaks past (.310 die).

I probably don't need it, but a 315 clone mould with more cavities than the 2-cav I have now wouldn't sit idle.
I wouldn't hate trying it HP'd either.

I'd like to try longer and shorter versions too, like around 200-210 grains and 150-165 grains.

[Marlin Junky]

Here's an idea:

Add a little more GC shank (approx. 0.1" total length) and design it to drop the SAECO 315 "clone" at .311-.312 in WW metal on the widest band; OR, run a 311407/311467 combo (two Lyman designs in one four cavity mold block).

MJ

[Ben]

RU shooter :

Yes, I own the 311466 and 311467. While both shoot very well, I'd have to give the edge to the SAECO 315.

I'm mailing samples of the 315' to Swede this morning.

Here are some more links related to the 315' if you'd be interested in seeing them:

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=68479


http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=23429

Thanks,

Ben

[chboats]

I love the 315 it has been my go to boolit for a long time. I think the the very early Ideal 311466 and 311467 were more like the SAECO 315. They were tapered, not a strait taper like the 315. I would love to see an 8MM version. They are the best thing for a worn throat.

Carl

[LowPE]

I shoot the Saeco 315 in my M1A powered with about 21 grains of 2400. It is an excellent load for my M1A. Also works well in the old FAL.

[LowPE]

Here is a recent prone group shot at 25 meters, slung, 10 shots in about 2 minutes.

I do get feeding problems with the FAL, but none whatsover in the M1A.

These were plinker bullets -- not sorted or weighed -- which I think counts for the one flyer.