.433" 330 LMN PB Dual Crimp Group Buy Starts Here

[only1asterisk]

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/blammer8mm/Cast%20boolits/44PB2crimp320grRFSquarelubegrvs.jpg

The specs:
330 grains and minimum of .433” as cast
.450" or .500" crimp to meplat measurements
Additional information here: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=29187

Designed for .44 Magnum revolvers. Lever action rifle use is dubious at best.
This bullet has not been PROVEN to feed from any rifle at any OAL. Caveat emptor.

The terms:
This Lee Precision 6 cavity mold block group buy will cost $70 (including shipping for inside the US) for the first mold with $52 for every additional mold. This group buy will run with a minimum of 10 people. Interested buyers from outside the US should contact me for pricing.

A $10 refund will be returned with your mold if by some miracle we reach the 25 mold mark. Leftover monies resulting from the purchase of more than 10 molds (but less than 25) will be donated to offset the cost of running this forum.

All funds will be held until the group buy closes and will be returned if the 10 person minimum is not met. This group buy will be canceled and full refunds will gladly made available in the event that LEE quality control fails to meet minimum standards on outstanding group buys delivered before this buy closes.

I reserve the right to cancel this group buy for any reason. In that event, full refunds will promptly be made.

Molds will be sent out promptly by way of USPS once received from LEE. I can't guarantee delivery.

If the molds do not function as intended it will be incumbent on purchasers to reach a settlement directly with LEE either as individuals or group(s).

This group buy will close mid to late June.

These terms are nonnegotiable.

This is a No Whining™ group buy. If you don’t like it, do your own.

David

[Tom Myers]

Wow!! what did you use to make that magnificent bullet drawing? I am impressed.

Tom Myers

[only1asterisk]

Address for payment is:

David Harris
PO BOX 792
Morgantown WV 26507

David

[only1asterisk]

Tom

I didn't do that one, Blammer did. I just do stick drawings. I'd be curious to know myself.

David

[Blammer]

I used my Alibre CAD program.

3D and 2D and stuff.

David, if you need another drawing or something with or with out dimensions or whatever, let me know.

My next "project" is to figure out how to use Autocad.. :)

[only1asterisk]

Mr. Myers,

Would you mind doing calculating the center of pressure for this?

I'll put up a dimensioned drawing in a second.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/blammer8mm/Cast%20boolits/44PB2crimp320grRFSquarelubegrns.jpg

David

[only1asterisk]

Blammer,

Will do.

This bullet is going to be one hell of a penetrator. I think I'll call it Blammer's Bear Buster. B³ for short.

David

[Blammer]

:) that's too funny!

[only1asterisk]

It's also a hell of a lot shorter than typing .433" diameter, 330 grain, Plain-Based Long Medium Nose Dual Crimp.

David

[Blammer]

and THAT is were "copy" and "paste" really shine! :)

[only1asterisk]

How is Alibre to use? Are you running the personal version?

David

[Tom Myers]

Mr. Myers,

Would you mind doing calculating the center of pressure for this?



Here 'tis.

I need someone to tell me how to get photobucket to show the image full sized.

Tom Myers

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u35/dutchtom/Only1asterisk_Design_434-428-310_33.gif

[only1asterisk]

Many thanks, Mr. Myers!

That's excellent. Some people were having trouble viewing images since the update, but I see them all fullsize, no problem.

David

[targetshootr]

Nice. Does the 'center of pressure' of a boolit affect performance?

[smokemjoe]

That will be a good bullet for the 41 Swiss. or 444 Marlin, Size it from .428 to .433

[Tom Myers]

Nice. Does the 'center of pressure' of a boolit affect performance?


The Center of pressure is based on the profile area of the bullet and represents the theoretical center of air pressure on the bullet as it is flying through the air with a slightly nose-up attitude.

The farther the center of pressure from the center of bullet mass, the greater the leverage that is applied towards creating unstable bullet flight. Therefore, the closer the center of pressure is to the center of mass, the less leverage and the more stable the bullet is supposed to be. Based on my experience, it seems to work too.

Respectfully,
Tom Myers
Precision Ballistics and Records (http://www.tmtpages.com)

[only1asterisk]

Therefore, the closer the center of pressure is to the center of mass, the less leverage and the more stable the bullet is supposed to be. Based on my experience, it seems to work too.

It should. It is also a royal bitch to calculate. I usually guess.

David

[Tom Myers]

You can also find the center of pressure without calculating.

If you can make up an accurate profile drawing of the bullet on a piece of stiff paper or thin cardboard, Simply cut it out and balance it on the edge of a ruler or knife blade. The balance point of the cutout is the centroid of the bullet profile and represents the center of pressure of the bullet, but it IS NOT the Center of MASS of the bullet that it represents.

You can also find the Center of Mass of the bullet without calculations by placing a bullet on it's side and use a knife blade caliper to pick up a bullet with the caliper blades held vertically, gripping the bullet on each side of a driving band or in a grease groove. When you pick up the bullet precisley at the center of mass, it will remain horizontal. But even the slighest grip off of the center of mass will allow the imbalance to cause the bullet to tip.

Tom Myers

[Andy_P]

That's practically a copy of the custom mold I had made by Mountain Molds for my Vetterli, without the extra crimp groove.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=22981

http://www.pridham.ca/MM_432335_Vetterli_Mold.bmp

Shoots very well in my Vetterli.

[bearcove]

I'll send a check this weekend. Just what I need for my 444 contender carbine. Glad you put 2 crimp grooves so it can be seated deeper for 44 mags that don't have long cylinders. I bet if you trim some brass back to 44special length most 44 mags would handle it.

[bearcove]

Hello out there! Is anyone else interested or is this dying?

[Blammer]

I'm buying one.

[targetshootr]

I'm in already.

[Blammer]

ok that's 3!

[Poohgyrr]

I bet if you trim some brass back to 44 special length most 44 mags would handle it.

I keep wanting to load a heavy soft lead boolit in my Specials... 300 gr at 900 fps or so should be fine for a lot of things.

[only1asterisk]

First monies have arrived:

27405

David

[xpshooter]

I'd better get in on this one. I will take one.

[Blammer]

Monies sent here too.

[only1asterisk]

Additional monies in the mail today:

28704

David

[2 dogs]

Im in for one, just havent gotten around to sending payment!

[500bfrman]

So how much is this mold? 70 or 52?

[James C. Snodgrass]

I'm in for one, but it will be next week on the M.O. . Thanks James

[Blammer]

$70 and if we get past the 25 mark it'll get you a refund.

[only1asterisk]

If you order a second mold, the second mold will only be $52 more.

David

[94Doug]

I'm in. Sending payment tomorrow.

Doug

[Blammer]

how many we up to now?

[Mack Heath]

Guys,

This is a good looking bullet. I just wanted to know if this is still a viable group buy before I send any money out.

Mack

[Dave Berryhill]

I'm in for one. I'll get a check on the way.

[Blammer]

Yep it's still a go!

[only1asterisk]

We are still a go. I have 4 sold now. I'll post zips this evening.

David

[The_Montanan]

This is a good looking bullet.

My question is will this be too long for the cylinder of the SBH?

If so I am very interested.

[Mack Heath]

Just wanted to let you know that my check is headed your way for one.

Mack

[Cayoot]

I'm getting in on this too. Money order will go out this weekend for one.

[James C. Snodgrass]

Is this GB dieing or not I want one and will send the funds if it still going ? James

[only1asterisk]

This one is still alive! I just haven't had time to post of late.

David

[James C. Snodgrass]

Ok I,m going to get PMO as soon as the po opens. James:-D

[only1asterisk]

Addition checks in the mail box today:
54773
78664
44099

I'll be going out of town for about 3 weeks starting this weekend. I'm extending this group buy until July 21st. Checks will be cashed then and order will go out to Lee Aug. 1.

David

[smokemjoe]

Money in the mail Wed. TODAY. for one, Need it for my 41 Swiss. Zipper 52001

[xpshooter]

Hello; I'm just checking to see if you got check from 53014?

Thanks

xpshooter

[only1asterisk]

53014 is here.

[twotoescharlie]

count me in on this one, money in the mail on Monday.
TTC

[uncowboy]

David I have to have this one. Will mail funds from 08029-1050 Monday. Thanks, J.Michael

[twotoescharlie]

funds in transit this AM.

TTC 30078

[Blammer]

ok, how many we got so far?

[freedom475]

This is a good looking bullet.

My question is will this be too long for the cylinder of the SBH?

If so I am very interested.


I Think I want in on this one but my Question is the same...SBH??
\
My caliper won't measure my cylinder length.

[only1asterisk]

Designed with the SRH in mind. Buy with confidence.

David

[2 dogs]

Check went out yesterday. 78413.

[Blammer]

ooooo! Moving along! How many left to go until we order?

[only1asterisk]

I'll be back in town on Thursday. I'll give last call and wait one more week.
I'm fairly sure we'll have enough to order.

David

[DAFzipper]

OK I'm in, payment going out Wednesday. Man this forum is costing me a lot of money! Sure hope the wife doesn't find out!

[only1asterisk]

Payments I picked up today:

52001
30078
10009
49783
66086
08029

We are over the required 10, so the buy is a Go! I'm only waiting for the last few payments and I cash the checks.

David

[Blammer]

Sweet!

[2 dogs]

You should have recieved 78413 by now.....update?

[only1asterisk]

Picked up 14464 and 78413 today.

David

[2 dogs]

thanks!

[only1asterisk]

I'm checking the PO Box one last time and will post a final list. Anybody that has send funds that have not been verified as received will need to contact me ASAP.

David

[only1asterisk]

Final Zip List:

10009
14464
52001
30078
49783
66086
08029
78413
28704
27405
53014
44099
54773
78664

Not on the list, I didn't get your money.
Any problems, let me know ASAP.

David

[only1asterisk]

Order went out today! This one is done. Thanks everyone!

David

[DAFzipper]

Sure wish I had this one for Deer season!

[Blammer]

bump... :)

[xpshooter]

Bump... Do we have an estimated date of completion upon these moulds????

[Blammer]

It seems like it's been forever..... :)

[only1asterisk]

It's been about 6 months, I'll check in with LEE next week.

[Blammer]

A shameless bump!

:)

[abunaitoo]

I missed out on this one.
Any chance someone order an extra one?????

[2 dogs]

We have passed the 6 month mark on this one havent we?

[GLL]

2 dogs:

Yes !

Only 3-4 months to go ! :)

Jerry

[2 dogs]

Ouch!

[only1asterisk]

I've been calling Lee for weeks. All I get is a busy signal. I've emailed Pat, no reply as yet. I know they are busy, but if they have enough calls to keep the phone busy 24/7 they are doing enough business to put in another line and hire somebody to answer it.

[DAFzipper]

I'm in 3 other group buys that went in before this one. One is at the 10 month mark and still waiting. No more Lee group buys for me. I'd rather pay more to another manufacture with reasonable turn around time. I see Lee is a sponsor of this web forum. I hope they are reading all the posts looking for new sources for custom molds.

[Lloyd Smale]

youd think by now everyone would realize how long these take. Weve had some go over a year. If a guys in a hurry hes best off staying out of these buys. If not do like me. I get into them and forget all about it and have a nice surprise occasionaly when a mold shows up in the mail.

[DAFzipper]

I'm not saying its the honcho's fault. And I don't mind a reasonable wait. I knew it would be at least 6 to 10 months. I was just trying to point out that more custom mold making options are showing up on this forum every week.

[Lee S. Forsberg]

Is this mold a go or am I too late?

[94Doug]

Too late.

[only1asterisk]

Got a email reply from Pat, but no promise or even estimate of a delivery date.
Just "Custom molds are running 9 months or more." or works to that effect.

[abunaitoo]

Anyone order an extra one they would like to sell.

[DAFzipper]

Just received a mold that went in 1 week before this one.

[94Doug]

I'd say either this mould or the 311440 is next. We should have an "office pool."

[Blammer]

bump for hope it gets here soon!

[smokemjoe]

I been hoping since the 1 st. of Jan. for one, Wanted to use it in my 41 Swiss for the Cast Bullet Miltary Nationals in June at Sioux Citie Iowa.

[only1asterisk]

This is the last Lee group buy I ever do.

If the molds aren't here by June 1st, how many would prefer a refund to continued waiting?

[94Doug]

Wait. It will get here.

[Blammer]

I'll still wait.

[targetshootr]

I say we send Lee a nasty note after they get here.


:kidding:

[James C. Snodgrass]

We have waited this long why give up now ? James[smilie=1:

[smokemjoe]

I want the mold, We waited this long, Its like waiting for a M1 Garand when you order one from the DCM. For ever, Thanks- Joe

[dominicfortune00]

If anybody drops out, I wouldn't mind getting one of these for my Vetterli's.

Don't know how I missed it last year.

[James C. Snodgrass]

Hope it comes soon I'm wantin' something new to cast I might have to make some sinkers . :groner:

[2 dogs]

Agreed. We have waited this long, what another couple of weeks. Still, Lee SUCKS!

[GLL]

Remember that the date the order is "sent in" is not related to the "start time" ! The order is placed on the LEE "to do" LIST once all of the paperwork is completed. The Honcho signs and returns an agreement that is provided by LEE once payment is finalized.

The moulds arrive when they arrive! There really is nothing the honcho can do to influence that. LEE does not even complete the work in the order they are accepted on the LIST no matter what they say to the contrary ! It is semi-random!!!!

Honchoing (new word) is a VERY frustrating business ! I know I am done running Group Buys on advice of my cardiologist ! :) :) I only have one that is now outstanding and it is my last !

MiHec gets my money ! Slovenia of all places comes to the rescue ! :) :)

Jerry

[6pt-sika]

MiHec gets my money ! Slovenia of all places comes to the rescue ! :) :)

Jerry

Nothing against MiHec , but my buisness will now be done either with NEI or Mountain Molds ! I prefer to do buisness "in country" so to speak [smilie=1:

NEI pissed me off each time I've bought from them . However it was usually a matter of weeks verses MONTHS with Lee .

[GLL]

Nothing against MiHec , but my buisness will now be done either with NEI or Mountain Molds ! I prefer to do buisness "in country" so to speak [smilie=1:

NEI pissed me off each time I've bought from them . However it was usually a matter of weeks verses MONTHS with Lee .

Craig:

For my personal one-off experiments I would agree that Mountain Molds will get my business but I have not been at all happy with NEI results lately ! I have another source that does outstanding specialized work !

I look forward to seeing some of SwedeNelson's molds. Perhaps he will be the "in country " Group Buy source ! :)

For Group Buys MiHec is now producing outstanding quality at a fair price plus quick delivery ! That and a well organized system is hard to beat ! Why can't someone here match that? SwedeNelson may be the answer?

Jerry

[SwedeNelson]

6pt-sika

PM sent

GLL

I'm giving my all to get this off the ground.

"Why can't someone here match that?"
I have some very strong thoughts on that
and cant voice them here.

I hope I can be the answer.

Swede Nelson

[Blammer]

hmm, wonder how long now.

I am definitely glad to see others trying to fill the need where some manufacturers leave off. Capatilism at it's best!

[DAFzipper]

10 month bump. Sure hope this one comes in at spec!

[Blammer]

oooo, you're giving me shivers if it's not in spec....

[only1asterisk]

Talked to Lee today. They say there are still 2 dozen orders ahead of us. At least they acknowledge the order is outstanding and paid for.

There is still hope.

[DAFzipper]

Seems the answer is always 24 ahead. Could it be they are still fixing and rerunning the other GB's they cant get right? The wait would fine if we get what we ordered. I sent back my GB BD45 and one 30 cal mold buy went back. Good thing Sweed and MiHec are making to quality molds. They will get my money from now on. Not blaming you only1 just venting!

[2 dogs]

Blammer, dont fret, we will see this mold soon enough. You have done all you can do here we just have to sit back and wait. My last several Lee group buy molds have been fine, I hope this one is too.

The Sweede and Mihec will be having an impact on Lee's business.....I wonder how it will affect them....

[James C. Snodgrass]

I think it's gonna be soon, Hopefully . James[smilie=1:

[James C. Snodgrass]

Here's wishing .:groner:

[DAFzipper]

Happy Birthday Bump!

[2 dogs]

LOL! Our new Lee molds are already a YEAR old and we havent even seen them yet!

[James C. Snodgrass]

Doe's anyone remember what we were going to shoot this in ?[smilie=1:

[Blammer]

a 22 I think? lol

[DAFzipper]

Well, at least I will have time to work up a load for the 2010 deer season!

[only1asterisk]

Well, at least I will have time to work up a load for the 2010 deer season!

If you are lucky...

[targetshootr]

It's been 13 months. Wow. I know of at least one gb that was started and delivered since then. So much for all that talk about a new machine Lee was putting into service.

[Mack Heath]

Have you given any thought to the idea that maybe this is Lee's backhanded way of telling everyone from here to get lost? They won't say "no", they just make it more trouble than it is worth.

[targetshootr]

Have you given any thought to the idea that maybe this is Lee's backhanded way of telling everyone from here to get lost? They won't say "no", they just make it more trouble than it is worth.

I dont believe it's intentional, mostly careless. And they get a lot of molds back that have to be redone. I sent them one yesterday, the one that was started and delivered in the last year.

[lathesmith]

Have you given any thought to the idea that maybe this is Lee's backhanded way of telling everyone from here to get lost? They won't say "no", they just make it more trouble than it is worth.

Well, I'd say it's working, at least for the guys who hang out here. It's probably been 4 or 5 months since I last saw a Lee GB.
lathesmith

[94Doug]

Soon.... I hope.

[James C. Snodgrass]

I do wonder if they forgot about us?:violin:

[DAFzipper]

I guess you have to wait until Lee pulls your order out of the "hat"! I was in 4 other group buys that went in after this one that have arrived. Saw several others that were ordered after this one come in also. Too late for this deer season, maybe 2010? Not blaming the honcho, just venting about Lee. My 2 orders with NOE came in 2 months and at specs. Well worth the price for the quality.

[only1asterisk]

Intentional or not, I'm not going to run anymore group buys for Lee molds. For a little more money we get a product made to spec from people that don't hold onto our money for a year.

[2 dogs]

It's been over a year actually. Lee
and their group buys stink.

[twotoescharlie]

we should ask for our money back and start over somewhere else. I don't understand why Lee is skipping over this group buy, and that is surely what they are doing. more than likely if and when we do get them , they will probably be out of spec.

TTC

[targetshootr]

we should ask for our money back and start over somewhere else. I don't understand why Lee is skipping over this group buy, and that is surely what they are doing. more than likely if and when we do get them , they will probably be out of spec.

TTC

The last two i've gotten were undersized and the one I sent back was returned in a few weeks, which isn't bad. BUT, this 44 gb is now in the 14th month since the order was sent.

[2 dogs]

It is time to move this buy to NOE. Lee does not deserve
our group buy business. I would rather pay more and
actually get my mold.

[Blammer]

Will Lee refund our money for the buy if we cancel it?

[Dave Berryhill]

I agree. Lee is telling us that they don't want our business. We should give them an answer by asking for a full refund. At this point I'd rather give my dollars to someone else even if the same mold design costs more.

[PoorGuy]

If this gets pulled from Lee, is there a chance that the offering would open again for a short time to allow those of us that are new to the board to get in on a NOE version?

I know, it's a lot of ifs, but I'll bet there are more than a couple of us that would jump.

[dominicfortune00]

I'd jump in if NOE was going to run this mold.

[twotoescharlie]

have we been snookered??

TTC

[2 dogs]

We cracked into yet another month....

[GLL]

What is Pat at LEE saying about all of this ???

Jerry

[DAFzipper]

461 days (give or take) and counting!

[twotoescharlie]

I have a gut feeling that something has gone wrong somewhere. just don't make sense that this group buy has taken so long. I have recieved a mould that I ordered after this group buy. It was also a group buy from Lee. recieved this mould about a month and a half ago. just don't believe we went to the bottom of the pile. could it have been lost?

TTC

[Dave Berryhill]

Hey 1* - can you get an update from Lee on this?

[2 dogs]

Yes, and if they give you any **** let's get our check
back and send it to thesweede!

[GLL]

Just for reference:

My last (VERY LAST) Lee Group Buy I honchoed just arrived here Friday after "just" a ten month wait !

LEE has gone random and they need to be called on it !

Jerry

[Dave Berryhill]

Buehler?......... Buehler?..........Buehler?..........

[Blammer]

lol

too funny.

[targetshootr]

I emailed Lee just for the heck of it and they said "we do not have any custom work that is 16 months old." The order was sent to them approx 8-1-08 which was 16 months ago, right?

[twotoescharlie]

please see post #134

TTC

[smokemjoe]

About 5 months ago I designed 2 molds for the 41 Swiss and had CBE in Austrial make the cherrys and he had me 2 molds within 3 months, I would like to see Swed. make this one in a 2 cavity. Joe

[2 dogs]

Something is wrong with this buy and Lee.....

[targetshootr]

They emailed again to say the order was "placed and confirmed" on 12-12-08 and it'll be shipped this Friday.

[only1asterisk]

They emailed again to say the order was "placed and confirmed" on 12-12-08 and it'll be shipped this Friday.

The "placed & confirmed" BS is about the little piece of they make you sign and return now.

I'd never filled one out before, so I didn't miss it when they sent it to the wrong address. They called months later and faxed another one.

If anyone is interested I can look up to date when the order was initially placed.

I don't appreciate my character being called into question. This isn't my first group buy.

[targetshootr]

I don't appreciate my character being called into question. This isn't my first group buy. [/COLOR]

No one is. I emailed back "Apparently the order was sent in several months before it was officially "placed and confirmed". "

[Blammer]

Let's hope Lee get's it right!

Gotta be getting closer, thanks for all you've done only1asterisk. Having honcho'ed several GB's I feel for ya, and once again, THANK YOU!

[94Doug]

Let's hope Lee get's it right!

Gotta be getting closer, thanks for all you've done only1asterisk. Having honcho'ed several GB's I feel for ya, and once again, THANK YOU!


Indeed.

Doug

[2 dogs]

My thanks to you as well.

[only1asterisk]

Molds are here!

[Dave Berryhill]

Woo Hoo! [smilie=w:

[94Doug]

Holy Ship. Seems like we just ordered these.

d

[James C. Snodgrass]

Coolness !!!!!:cbpour:

[only1asterisk]

The molds look good. The cavities on the few I opened were excellent.

There was a dimensional typo on the on the paperwork that was sent out with the finished molds and I about lost it. but the molds appear to be cut right (I double checked what I sent LEE, the dimensions as ordered are correct).

That's the good news.

Bad news:

I'm not going to be able to ship these before Christmas. If somebody is still able to hunt this year and wants to try the mold in the next week and a half maybe week can make a special arrangement to get one out.

[xpshooter]

It's Ok with me if I wait another couple weeks, at least I know they are in good hands and on their way.

Thanks for being the Honco of this very long order.

[94Doug]

That'll be fine after waiting so loooong..... any chance we can get some photos of the casts?

d

[2 dogs]

I can wait till after Christmas too. Many thanks for hanging in there!

[Cayoot]

Bad news:
I'm not going to be able to ship these before Christmas.

That's fine. It's too cold here to cast now anyways. With the temps down in the single digits in the evening (supposed to hit minus 2 tonight) I have a really hard time keeping the moulds and melt up to temp anyways.

I'll need mine by spring thanks!:mrgreen:

[smokemjoe]

Thank-you for the good news, Joe

[Blammer]

Good deal!

No worries on the extra week wait here, at least I know they are DONE!

[Mack Heath]

I just thought I would bump this up to the top with a casual request to see if there is any more news to be had. Any idea how soon these will be going out?

[twotoescharlie]

well, it's two weeks after Christmas, anyone recieved their mould yet?

TTC

[smokemjoe]

My computor been down for 3 weeks and was thinking the same 2 toes.

[Tazman1602]

HOLY MACKEREL you guys have been waiting OVER A YEAR AND A HALF for this mold? Do I read that right?????

Hope things go well for you all.

Art

[DAFzipper]

525 days by my count.

[Tazman1602]

525 days by my count.

I'm gonna quit grousing to myself about the GB I'm in on then. I can't believe it can take that long or that you guys are so patient. I really do wish you the best.

Art

[only1asterisk]

I'm alive. I had intended to get these out before our move to TX but we had to move things up because of the weather.

The molds are here and accounted for (they rode next to me for 1250 miles).
I hope to have mt computer up and running in the next day or so.

I'll print labels and get these things out. With a little luck, we will have the longest group buy ever to work right.

Hope everybody had a great Christmas and is having a good new year.

[Blammer]

YEA! Glad the move went well, i've moved across the country twice, it's quite an experience.

(moved from NC to CA, then 2 yrs later moved from CA to NC)

[94Doug]

I was going to say something about this not being the longest GB ever, but then I saw the "to work out right" part. Looking forward to this one. Thanks for the update!

Doug

[smokemjoe]

Didnt know you were on the move, We moved 5 times in 5 years looking for work a few years back, still have boxs packed up and retired,been 30 below and to cold to cast anyway, Sorry- JOe

[2 dogs]

Any update? I still havent seen this mold as of today...012110...

[only1asterisk]

Sorry guys. I seriously underestimated the difficulty of getting back to normal after the move. My desktop will not start up after the move, but I have backup w/ mailing addresses (in addition to paper backup) I just have to find where it was packed.

It took me 10 minutes to find an ink pen yesterday. :violin:

I know this group buy has been an epic wait. I didn't plan on moving halfway across the country when it started. If you guys will stick with me, I'll get the molds out.


I can't do anything about LEE, but I'm doing my best to limit the delay on my end.


Thanks!

[Cayoot]

No sweat...thanks for touching base with us!

It's waaaayyyy too cold to cast up here now anyways!

[2 dogs]

Thank you for the update. I appreciate the difficulty of
moving all too well. I was just looking for an update. At this
point the additional wait certainly is no issue. BUT to have
stuck with this one this long only to have USPS lose my
mold would be a drag.... Again, my thanks to you.

[Retro]

Heh. So I just got back to this forum after moving house and being away for a couple of years. I like this bullet. If there's a spare going...

[twotoescharlie]

how long does it take to print out 15 labels?

TTC

[2 dogs]

forever if your computer isnt printing.....

[James C. Snodgrass]

I was wondering if we need to resend our address' or some thing to help out ? I know moving is a booger , But it has been 52 days since you got em' . If there is any thing I can do to help please feel free to contact me . James

[only1asterisk]

FOUND THEM! FOUND THEM! FOUND THEM!

The desktop computer is still not working (an electrical problem, it doesn't even come on), but I found the paper backups!

I'll format labels, print them at work (or maybe even try to hook the laptop to a printer) and get these puppies out.

Anybody that has had a change of address in the last 18 months should let me know ASAP.

I was wondering if we need to resend our address' or some thing to help out ?

I would have done this except I didn't want to end up with 25 addresses and 18 molds. It wouldn't have even required any malintent on anyone's part. I forget which group buy I got in on and which I didn't all the time.

In the month after I got the molds and aside from moving to TX, the following events taken place:

My dad's birthday
My parents anniversary
Christmas
My anniversary
My wife threw a bridal shower
My sister's 30th birthday
New Years (a big holiday in my wife culture)
My other sister's wedding (her first, her husbands 4th)
My brother's wedding
My 3 remaining grandparents took turns in the hospital

I have not cast a bullet, loaded a round or been to the range since receiving the molds. I will enjoy resuming after they have been sent out. When I took on the obligation of running this group buy I had no inkling that we'd move from WV nor that the delivery timing could ever be SO bad. This has weighted on me mightily.
I'll be so glad to get out from under it.

I'll put my $.02 in when we have a design thread I like and I won't hesitate to throw in on future group buys, but I think I've done my last.

Thanks everybody for your patience.

[2 dogs]

Let me say I appreciate all you have done for us in the past and want to thank you for staying in with this one!

[Blammer]

yea! thank you very much!

[only1asterisk]

If all goes as planned, the molds will ship this afternoon. If not, tomorrow.

[Blammer]

yea! Chirstmas is arriving!

[only1asterisk]

The mold actually shipped yesterday thanks to the blizzard and holiday. All molds have shipped. It is done!

[94Doug]

Mine arrived today!

Doug

[twotoescharlie]

recieved today 30078

TTC

[James C. Snodgrass]

Got it 66086 . Its a dandy . Thanks James[smilie=w:

[targetshootr]

Wow these are big honkin boolits and they dropped easy too. I'm thinking of 7 gr Unique/Universal to start off. Anybody got a load to share? Thanks to only1 for honchoing this gb.

[Blammer]

pictures man gotta have pictures!

[Cayoot]

Mine showed up today...thank you!

49783

[smokemjoe]

Got mine today, Got mine to try in my Vetterlis, Thank-you, Joe

[Mack Heath]

Still waiting on mine - 44099. Hope it shows up soon.

[Blammer]

yep, still waiting here too, maybe the snow storm slowed things up a bit.

[only1asterisk]

Mack,

I've tried to send you PM's. Need you contact me.

[only1asterisk]

I think 2 weeks is long enough to wait.

Since I have 2 molds missing in the mail and only one remaining mold (mine), I need to decide what to do.

I can either flip a coin and give Mack or Blammer first choice of a replacement mold or refund OR I can put the mold up for auction and let them both have a chance at it (in addition to refunding their money).

Any other ideas?

[Mack Heath]

I think 2 weeks is long enough to wait.

Since I have 2 molds missing in the mail and only one remaining mold (mine), I need to decide what to do.

I can either flip a coin and give Mack or Blammer first choice of a replacement mold or refund OR I can put the mold up for auction and let them both have a chance at it (in addition to refunding their money).

Any other ideas?

Yup. Mine arrived. In fact it was dated 2/18 and has been sitting on a shelf for the last two weeks. Picked it up today. Good thing you told me of using the alternate address. I had to ask them to look for it in back. Either they did not put a notice in my box or it got mixed in with all of the junk mail. Given the length of time since it arrived, there should have been more than one notice. My guess is that the new crew there is not up to speed.

Anyhow, you only have one missing mold. So that should ease things for you. Many thanks for your efforts.

Mack

[Blammer]

dang, did I not press the send button on the last message I wrote.?

hate it when this happens...

[Blammer]

ok try this again.

only1asterisk, contact the PO and try to follow up on the package, was there a tracking number or anything I can inquire about on my end?

don't give up your mould for me, we'll get this taken care of.

[only1asterisk]

ok try this again.

only1asterisk, contact the PO and try to follow up on the package, was there a tracking number or anything I can inquire about on my end?

don't give up your mould for me, we'll get this taken care of.

I've got the PO doing a trace on it. It has a barcode that they can supposedly track and there is a small chance that they can recover it. The guy did mention that the incidence of lost or damaged packages goes up in bad weather. We'll keep our fingers crossed. But now with just one missing I'm much relieved knowing that this can still come out right.

As far as you not getting a mold: you did the final design for it, you ought to have one. That's all there is to that. As for me; first in, last out. This whole cursed thing was my idea, and done on my terms (which I reserve the right to alter, see first post of this thread).

[Blammer]

YOU are definitely the
MAN!


thank you sir.