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03-18-2016, 06:05 PM
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2016/03/16/lawmaker-isis-should-allowed-recruit-colleges/81885932/
Tennessee lawmaker: ISIS should be allowed to recruit at colleges March 17, 2016
Speaking on behalf of a bill centered around free speech, a Knoxville-based lawmaker on Wednesday said a terrorist organization should be allowed to recruit on college campuses in Tennessee.
While presenting a billed dubbed the “Tennessee Student Free Speech Protection Act (http://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=HB2063&ga=109),” Rep. Martin Daniel (http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/members/h18.html), R-Knoxville, fielded a question from Rep. John DeBerry Jr (http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/members/h90.html)., D-Memphis, about whether he believed ISIS should be able to stand in the middle of university campuses and “recruit for ISIS.”
“Yes,” Daniel replied. “So long as it doesn’t disrupt the proceedings on that campus. Yes sir. They can recruit people for any other organization or any other cause. I think it’s just part of being exposed to differing viewpoints.”
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THE TENNESSEAN
Tennessee lawmaker repudiates ISIS, defends comments
(http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2016/03/17/tennessee-lawmaker-repudiates-isis-defends-comments/81921420/)
The remarks came after a debate (http://tnga.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=278&clip_id=12009) about the bill, which Daniel said “would direct schools to observe freedom of speech on campus.”
While introducing the legislation, Daniel said students’ free speech on Tennessee college campuses has been diminished in recent years because of unfair policies.
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He pointed to a requirement at Middle Tennessee State University, which he said forces students interested in handing out literature on the school’s property to fill out an application five days in advance. He added that Tennessee State University had a policy that prohibits disruption in any form on its campus.
DeBerry and Daniel engaged in a brief discussion about the merits of the bill, which the Democrat challenged.
DeBerry argued that the world has changed from the days of the 1960s, which he said was an era of protest and time of change, while asking Daniel if he considered the fact that the world has changed since then.
“There are young people who are not ready yet — they're half-baked, half-cooked — who are recruited to work against their own parents, their own nation, and I would be concerned as a parent and as a citizen,” DeBerry said. “Free speech is one thing; being stupid is another."
“Our schools are tending towards shielding students away from objectionable speech,” Daniel said.
Immediately after Daniel argued that ISIS should be allowed to recruit on college campuses, House Education Administration and Planning Subcommittee Chairman Mark White, R-Germantown, recommended the bill be taken off notice.
Before that, Daniel said he hoped the committee would send the bill to summer study.
My Oh My
Oh, wait did I say that
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2016/03/17/tennessee-lawmaker-repudiates-isis-defends-comments/81921420/
A Knoxville-based Republican lawmaker on Thursday defended his comments that free speech rights on college campuses should offer wide protections, even to groups such as ISIS.
Speaking on the House floor, Rep. Martin Daniel said he supports people’s constitutional rights to free speech, even if he disagrees with the message.
“I just wanted to confirm and clarify that I will always respect the right of persons and organizations to speak,” he said. “That, however, is different from agreeing with the content of that speech. I will never apologize for defending the First Amendment. I will always cloak myself in it and defend others’ right to speak.”
Daniel’s defense comes one day after he fielded a question about whether he believed people should be able to stand in the middle of university campuses and “recruit for ISIS.” The comments drew a sharp response and made national news.
“So long as it doesn’t disrupt the proceedings on that campus. Yes sir,” Daniel told the House Education Administration and Planning Subcommittee on Wednesday. “They can recruit people for any organization or any other cause. I think it’s just part of being exposed to differing viewpoints.”
On Thursday, Daniel elaborated.
“The remedy for disagreeable speech is not to silence that speech — it is more speech,” he said.
Some members of the House applauded Daniel after he offered the explanation.
House Minority Leader Craig Fitzhugh, D-Ripley, called the comments ridiculous.
"I don't think a response right now is necessary," he told reporters.
In an email to The Tennessean, Daniel said he was simply trying to offer a legal opinion that “any organization has the simple right to recruit membership in any public space, including public higher education campuses.” Daniel is an attorney.
“If that speech should cross the line so that it becomes an imminent threat to someone, including our country, that would not be protected speech,” he wrote. Daniel cited Brandenburg vs. Ohio, a 1969 Supreme Court decision that made inflammatory speech, which could incite “imminent lawless action,” illegal.
While discussing the issue from inside his legislative office, Daniel said he did not want his remarks to lead people to believe he supports the terrorist group.
“To imply that I support ISIS is ridiculous,” he said. “I condemn them 100 percent.”
Daniel said his comments in the committee were an attempt to underline a point that the First Amendment protects the free speech rights of organizations such as the Ku Klux Klan and the Black Panthers
“It doesn’t matter what they say, so long as it doesn’t incite violence,” he said.
Daniel also issued a statement Thursday in which he continued to defend his comments while also reiterating his disdain for ISIS, also known as the Islamic State.
"I fundamentally disagree with ISIS’ philosophy, and I unequivocally condemn their abhorrent, cruel, inhuman acts of terror and violence," he wrote.
"Frankly, simple recruitment efforts by any organization, standing alone, might be protected by the First Amendment," he continued. "However, offering material support, including one’s service, to a terrorist organization is forbidden by the United States Patriot Act of 2001. Joining ISIS (offering one’s service to a terrorist organization) is illegal, on college campuses or anywhere else in the United States."
Daniel acknowledged that while some may not find his comments satisfactory, he is confident that the vast majority of people "with any sense of human decency" will agree with his position.
"I am sure that each of us holds many opinions that someone, somewhere, would find wrong or offensive," he said. "My point is that if we weaken the First Amendment by making its protection selective, based on what is currently viewed as evil or inappropriate, we are weakening its ability to protect us all."
Daniel’s bill, known as the “Tennessee Student Free Speech Protection Act,” would prevent Tennessee colleges from having policies that would suppress debate based on ideas considered "offensive, unwise, immoral, or wrong."
The remarks about ISIS came after a debate on the bill.
Introducing the legislation, Daniel said students’ free speech on Tennessee college campuses has been diminished in recent years because of unfair policies.
He pointed to a requirement at Middle Tennessee State University, which he said forces students interested in handing out literature on the school’s property to fill out an application five days in advance. He said that Tennessee State University had a policy that prohibits disruption in any form on its campus.
Immediately after Daniel responded to the question about ISIS, House Education Administration and Planning Subcommittee Chairman Mark White, R-Germantown, recommended the bill be taken off notice. Before that, Daniel said he hoped the committee would send the bill to summer study.
Daniel said the overall point of his bill has gotten lost because of the distraction over the ISIS remarks.
"I am seeing liberal college administrators impose their views of what is right and proper speech on conservative students who feel uncomfortable in disagreement. I am trying to remedy that problem," he said. "All students should have the right to express their opinions, and that is what this bill is about."
He'll be running for president soon no doubt.
Tennessee lawmaker: ISIS should be allowed to recruit at colleges March 17, 2016
Speaking on behalf of a bill centered around free speech, a Knoxville-based lawmaker on Wednesday said a terrorist organization should be allowed to recruit on college campuses in Tennessee.
While presenting a billed dubbed the “Tennessee Student Free Speech Protection Act (http://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=HB2063&ga=109),” Rep. Martin Daniel (http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/members/h18.html), R-Knoxville, fielded a question from Rep. John DeBerry Jr (http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/members/h90.html)., D-Memphis, about whether he believed ISIS should be able to stand in the middle of university campuses and “recruit for ISIS.”
“Yes,” Daniel replied. “So long as it doesn’t disrupt the proceedings on that campus. Yes sir. They can recruit people for any other organization or any other cause. I think it’s just part of being exposed to differing viewpoints.”
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THE TENNESSEAN
Tennessee lawmaker repudiates ISIS, defends comments
(http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2016/03/17/tennessee-lawmaker-repudiates-isis-defends-comments/81921420/)
The remarks came after a debate (http://tnga.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=278&clip_id=12009) about the bill, which Daniel said “would direct schools to observe freedom of speech on campus.”
While introducing the legislation, Daniel said students’ free speech on Tennessee college campuses has been diminished in recent years because of unfair policies.
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THE TENNESSEANResolution to sue feds over refugee resettlement advances
(http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2016/03/16/resolution-sue-feds-over-refugee-resettlement-advances/81867784/)
He pointed to a requirement at Middle Tennessee State University, which he said forces students interested in handing out literature on the school’s property to fill out an application five days in advance. He added that Tennessee State University had a policy that prohibits disruption in any form on its campus.
DeBerry and Daniel engaged in a brief discussion about the merits of the bill, which the Democrat challenged.
DeBerry argued that the world has changed from the days of the 1960s, which he said was an era of protest and time of change, while asking Daniel if he considered the fact that the world has changed since then.
“There are young people who are not ready yet — they're half-baked, half-cooked — who are recruited to work against their own parents, their own nation, and I would be concerned as a parent and as a citizen,” DeBerry said. “Free speech is one thing; being stupid is another."
“Our schools are tending towards shielding students away from objectionable speech,” Daniel said.
Immediately after Daniel argued that ISIS should be allowed to recruit on college campuses, House Education Administration and Planning Subcommittee Chairman Mark White, R-Germantown, recommended the bill be taken off notice.
Before that, Daniel said he hoped the committee would send the bill to summer study.
My Oh My
Oh, wait did I say that
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2016/03/17/tennessee-lawmaker-repudiates-isis-defends-comments/81921420/
A Knoxville-based Republican lawmaker on Thursday defended his comments that free speech rights on college campuses should offer wide protections, even to groups such as ISIS.
Speaking on the House floor, Rep. Martin Daniel said he supports people’s constitutional rights to free speech, even if he disagrees with the message.
“I just wanted to confirm and clarify that I will always respect the right of persons and organizations to speak,” he said. “That, however, is different from agreeing with the content of that speech. I will never apologize for defending the First Amendment. I will always cloak myself in it and defend others’ right to speak.”
Daniel’s defense comes one day after he fielded a question about whether he believed people should be able to stand in the middle of university campuses and “recruit for ISIS.” The comments drew a sharp response and made national news.
“So long as it doesn’t disrupt the proceedings on that campus. Yes sir,” Daniel told the House Education Administration and Planning Subcommittee on Wednesday. “They can recruit people for any organization or any other cause. I think it’s just part of being exposed to differing viewpoints.”
On Thursday, Daniel elaborated.
“The remedy for disagreeable speech is not to silence that speech — it is more speech,” he said.
Some members of the House applauded Daniel after he offered the explanation.
House Minority Leader Craig Fitzhugh, D-Ripley, called the comments ridiculous.
"I don't think a response right now is necessary," he told reporters.
In an email to The Tennessean, Daniel said he was simply trying to offer a legal opinion that “any organization has the simple right to recruit membership in any public space, including public higher education campuses.” Daniel is an attorney.
“If that speech should cross the line so that it becomes an imminent threat to someone, including our country, that would not be protected speech,” he wrote. Daniel cited Brandenburg vs. Ohio, a 1969 Supreme Court decision that made inflammatory speech, which could incite “imminent lawless action,” illegal.
While discussing the issue from inside his legislative office, Daniel said he did not want his remarks to lead people to believe he supports the terrorist group.
“To imply that I support ISIS is ridiculous,” he said. “I condemn them 100 percent.”
Daniel said his comments in the committee were an attempt to underline a point that the First Amendment protects the free speech rights of organizations such as the Ku Klux Klan and the Black Panthers
“It doesn’t matter what they say, so long as it doesn’t incite violence,” he said.
Daniel also issued a statement Thursday in which he continued to defend his comments while also reiterating his disdain for ISIS, also known as the Islamic State.
"I fundamentally disagree with ISIS’ philosophy, and I unequivocally condemn their abhorrent, cruel, inhuman acts of terror and violence," he wrote.
"Frankly, simple recruitment efforts by any organization, standing alone, might be protected by the First Amendment," he continued. "However, offering material support, including one’s service, to a terrorist organization is forbidden by the United States Patriot Act of 2001. Joining ISIS (offering one’s service to a terrorist organization) is illegal, on college campuses or anywhere else in the United States."
Daniel acknowledged that while some may not find his comments satisfactory, he is confident that the vast majority of people "with any sense of human decency" will agree with his position.
"I am sure that each of us holds many opinions that someone, somewhere, would find wrong or offensive," he said. "My point is that if we weaken the First Amendment by making its protection selective, based on what is currently viewed as evil or inappropriate, we are weakening its ability to protect us all."
Daniel’s bill, known as the “Tennessee Student Free Speech Protection Act,” would prevent Tennessee colleges from having policies that would suppress debate based on ideas considered "offensive, unwise, immoral, or wrong."
The remarks about ISIS came after a debate on the bill.
Introducing the legislation, Daniel said students’ free speech on Tennessee college campuses has been diminished in recent years because of unfair policies.
He pointed to a requirement at Middle Tennessee State University, which he said forces students interested in handing out literature on the school’s property to fill out an application five days in advance. He said that Tennessee State University had a policy that prohibits disruption in any form on its campus.
Immediately after Daniel responded to the question about ISIS, House Education Administration and Planning Subcommittee Chairman Mark White, R-Germantown, recommended the bill be taken off notice. Before that, Daniel said he hoped the committee would send the bill to summer study.
Daniel said the overall point of his bill has gotten lost because of the distraction over the ISIS remarks.
"I am seeing liberal college administrators impose their views of what is right and proper speech on conservative students who feel uncomfortable in disagreement. I am trying to remedy that problem," he said. "All students should have the right to express their opinions, and that is what this bill is about."
He'll be running for president soon no doubt.