Opinions solicited: Lee 452s

[cohutt]

Background:

The Lee TL452-200-SWC has been a great bullet for me- sized to .451 it is a reliable feeder and extremely accurate in my Kimber TCII. Nothing at all wrong with it in this application.

What I'd like to do is to add a traditional lube 45 bullet in something other than a semiwadcutter.
My main reason is to find one that will feed reliably in a MAC10 that I can lube with a lower smoke option than LLA. (therefore would want an efficient 6x mold)

I've not loaded the TC or RF type profiles before; opinions appreciated.

Considering:
452-228-1R
http://www.leeprecision.com/graphics/bullets/4522281r.gif

452-230-TC
http://www.leeprecision.com/graphics/bullets/452230tc.gif

452-200-RF
http://www.leeprecision.com/graphics/bullets/452200rf.gif

[docone31]

I have the lower mold. Seriously, I thought I had died and gone into the clouds.
Maybe it is just me, however, it cast like a dream, loads real well, and cycles through my PT 1911, and Firestar. It is far more accurate than I am. I suspect an hollow point can be drilled into it, but I wonder why.
My Firestar has the closer rifling to case profile, I loosly loaded my cartridge, and worked the chamber. I then set my height.
I just love the mold. It cast great right out of the box, with cleaning with brake cleaner, and smoking. It was fun to cast.
I usually fire a clip of ball through my .45s so I do not really know how much it leads.
The 452-200RF is, to me, a great bullet.

[454PB]

I use both the top ones in my .45's. The 228 1R is very COL sensitive in my Ruger P-90. If seated the slightest bit too long, it will fail to chamber fully. Both are very accurate in my semiautos and my Ruger BH convertible. Be aware that the TC design requires some care when used in a Lyman or RCBS sizer since they leave a ring of lube on the bevel base.

[trickyasafox]

I've used the top two-

I had a 2 cav 228gr mold that was gifted to me- and has since been gifted to a new caster. shot and loaded well- I always wish it held more lube. probably not necessary- I pan lubed them with no ill effects, but I just never could get totally on board with the mold.

I then bought a 6 cavity of the 230gr TC- mine cast a bit heavier than that from straight WW, but they shoot great. Function is 100% in my 1911 and a g21. Guy at the range a ways back ran a couple mags through a taurus 1911 too without any issues. I load it with about a 1/16th of an inch of the shoulder exposed before the taper.

I just got a 200gr LSWC Lee 6 cav in trade. trying to save some lead. That TC drops great bullets- and the 228 drops great bullets as well, you won't go wrong with either.

never tried the 200gr jobber.

[cohutt]

thanks for the replies

maybe i should get 2 of the 3 or all. :-D

[dubber123]

I have shot close to 20,000 of the 228 1R's at falling plates, it's a great feeding boolit for me, and the shorter nose makes ejecting a live round a bit easier.

The 200 RF casts at 215 grs. for me out of WW's, and the nose meplat on mine is MUCH wider than the picture indicates, a possible concern if the Mac-10 is a picky feeder.

[Sig shooter]

+ 1
The Lee TL452-200-SWC , for years I used it unsized / tumble lubed .
Its a great starter mold in the 6 cavity , for 1911 the boys to get into casting .

[NSP64]

I have a 2 cav Lee 452- 200 SWC (reg lube groove) and TL using LLA works great. Also have a 2cav saeco .451 230 TC (also TL using LLA) it also feeds great. Have you tried the 200 swc in the mac yet?

[Ricochet]

I have the TL452-230-TC, and my 1911's never balked at feeding them, even when seated too deeply. (Another story.)

[imashooter2]

I shoot the 1R through a 625 and a Kimber for USPSA. Feed and function is fine in the Kimber and the smooth RN loads great in the 625. I drop them from a 6 cavity and load them as cast lubed with Rooster Jacket. Hard to get faster production than that...