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pmer
03-07-2016, 08:26 PM
I have an idea for a moving target and thought I'd give it a try. I needed a hill, some bicycle wheels and a piece of ply wood. The idea was to have a target coasting straight to me coming down a hill kinda like a charging animal. It seems okay to pretty good the first time out but needs some adjusting.

The cart has three wheels with a threaded rod sticking up and I taped some card board to the rod. I used a Buckmark at first then a 9mm. I did better with the 22 though.

Outer Rondacker
03-07-2016, 08:34 PM
Sounds fun. We need a video of this.

Ole Joe Clarke
03-07-2016, 08:43 PM
Pictures and/or video required, or it didn't happen. :-o

RP
03-07-2016, 10:10 PM
Sounds like fun how long before someone has a drone pulling a target lol.

nitrohog
03-07-2016, 10:55 PM
Sounds like fun how long before someone has a drone pulling a target lol.
Around a year or so ago.
https://youtu.be/zWYcsRr7T6E

pmer
03-07-2016, 11:03 PM
A drone or a RC car maybe. Although when I first got my Shooting Chrony...it didn't take long before it went to pieces. LOL

Here is the cart. The back wheels might be from a stroller. The target swings right and left as it comes down the hill.

John Taylor
03-08-2016, 10:35 AM
At a rendezvous many years back they had a running deer target with a gong behind the heat lung area. It had a couple pulleys on top and ran down a cable. Cable was set up through the brush so you had to pick when to shoot as it went through the clear areas. Gong was not attached well enough for my 54 and there was a hold up after me while they re-attached it.

Lucky Joe
03-09-2016, 01:40 PM
We will be shooting this game this year at our club. Each target is a 4.5 foot fence post with an 8 inch paper plate on the top. The range distance is 100 yards and the targets can be placed just about any where. It's a timed event combining hits and time used, it's a good game causing one to consider range and moving from target to target. Takes about 10 minutes to set up and the cost is low, fence posts can usually be found in bundles at online and farm auctions. Hope I explained it well enough. It can get the adrenalin cranked u.
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jmorris
03-09-2016, 07:00 PM
Here are are a few movers I have built. All videos, have to click on the photo to play them.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o213/jmorrismetal/th_autotargets.mp4 (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o213/jmorrismetal/autotargets.mp4)

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o213/jmorrismetal/th_runner1.mp4 (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o213/jmorrismetal/runner1.mp4)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02FNsp4-6NQ

pmer
03-10-2016, 11:32 AM
The above ideas and targets look pretty fun. The hill for me needs some work, there is tall grass and it needs to be smoothed out. The frost is coming out so it is pretty soft out there now.

I'll have to get a video going sometime.

PerpetualStudent
03-10-2016, 01:20 PM
I read an old book on firearms from the 60's I want to say. That books suggested getting an old car tire, putting a bullseye in the cent of the wheel, and then rolling it down a hill for a moving target.

Outer Rondacker
03-10-2016, 01:31 PM
I will say it for everyone who is thinking it. Dang great job Jmorris. That top video of the cardboard cut outs just has me puzzled. At first I thought springs. Then stuff turned on by itself. I really wish you lived closer to me. You would be a hit with my buddies.

Blackwater
03-10-2016, 04:56 PM
I've long thought about doing something like this, and I agree, "Good job!" I've never found anyone who'd help with it, though. The places where I'd like to put one are all devoid of electricity so a deep cycle 12 volt battery seemed the only reliable power source, along with a 12 volt motor, and probably some pulleys to adjust speed of the run. Finding a place for it is the hardest part without a source of power, since gravity is the only other real choice, and that also involves a slope. Gravity runs on a zip line tend to speed up as they go along, too, which isn't inappropriate, but suer makes hitting harder, but isn't difficult shots the whole purpose here? So ... I've thought of a zip line with a target hung on rollers, and a gravity impetus, was where I settled, but could never git'r done back in my busier days, and now, my back makes it improbable if not impossible. The zip line could be rigged up wherever one had a place to shoot. It'd require a raised end on the start side, and some way to adjust its height and retie. I figured on the type cable tie that uses screws and nuts to hold the cable tight. A plywood target, hung by chains (easy to retie with some screw type chain connnectors) would seem to be the way to put the target on the line, and some hangers with easy rolling rollers would complete the outfit. I've had some interest, but it never lasted long, and all my friends had better things to do than help set this up. Still, its doable. It'll require some help, though. FWIW?

rking22
03-10-2016, 06:27 PM
I have had an enduring interest in running boar shooting since a brief exposure in 1976. Presently considering a setup using a driven trolly with "shoes" providing power (like an overhead crane or old toy train set) . It would use limit switchs and relay setup to reverse direction by reversing polarity on the 2 wires. Gotta get some roun-to-its !
Watching this topic with great interest:)

Hardcast416taylor
03-10-2016, 10:53 PM
I read an old book on firearms from the 60's I want to say. That books suggested getting an old car tire, putting a bullseye in the cent of the wheel, and then rolling it down a hill for a moving target.

We used Volkswagen tires with several thicknesses of cardboard in the tire with a 6" dark bullseye center. One of us would start the tire down a hillside for another to shoot at after it had come 1/2 way down. They are harder to hit than you would expect at 50 yards.Robert

jmorris
03-11-2016, 10:53 AM
I will say it for everyone who is thinking it. Dang great job Jmorris. That top video of the cardboard cut outs just has me puzzled. At first I thought springs. Then stuff turned on by itself.


In the video you can see two yellow paint can lids, one is on an IR switch, the other is a reflector, if you notice I wallk around them at the start of the video.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o213/jmorrismetal/target/cover/DSC02104.jpg

That switch activates the two turning targets that are adjustable for the amount of time they are presented. When the timer "times out" and they go back into hiding there is an output switch that lets the swinger on the left go, if you look closely on the far left there is a blue and red paint can lids on another IR switch, that the swinger triggers. That one activates the two pop up targets, same timer/output as the two turning targets and when it times out activates the drop turn and double swinger.

I have used similar concepts like powering a pinwheel array of targets.
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o213/jmorrismetal/target/pinwheel.jpg

While one of my auto reset targets were resetting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIOcNNcLxnU

Makes a stage that looks like this.
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv5/qvideo/mvsa/aug15/th_aug145.mp4 (http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv5/qvideo/mvsa/aug15/aug145.mp4)

The runner in the 2nd video above has been used more as a moving "port" than anything, like this. There is an automotive shock sensor that activates it with the first shot.

http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv5/qvideo/mvsa/aug15/th_aug143.mp4 (http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv5/qvideo/mvsa/aug15/aug143.mp4)

The runner has 4 speeds, two different diameters machined into the pulley and it's actually an old cordless drill so it has a two speed gear box. Switches allow it to start/stop and return at either side or only go one direction and stop.
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o213/jmorrismetal/th_runner2.mp4 (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o213/jmorrismetal/runner2.mp4)

pmer
03-11-2016, 03:57 PM
Wow jmorris, what a way to "tech up" targets.

Ever since PerpetualStudent, mentioned rolling a tire down a hill I have been trying to incorporate that idea on my hill. Here is a sketch of my cartoon bubble. Maybe the targets and weights can attach to the bicycle axle inside the tire and keep from rotating as rolls down the hill. This might be less prone to tipping over compared to the cart.

pmer
03-13-2016, 10:12 PM
Well I think I have a video of a target moving down the hill. I used a 12'' bicycle wheel and wired to a 15'' car tire and scrapped together some odds and ends for the rest.

https://youtu.be/6xmCnB8utGk

On top of the hill is the saw horse with a 2 X 10. The bear rests on the high side and by pulling that rope the board teeters over the saw horse releasing the bear to roll down the hill. It's a "bear" to lug it back up the hill LOL. I'd like to get it going faster sometime and the release needs some work to better hold the tire. But it should be fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjUPWi9krro Here is another video with it rolling down the hill, we improved the rope release.

PerpetualStudent
03-15-2016, 10:03 AM
that's a much more elegant target than the book idea that I passed on. And it lets you use the hill as a backstop. Nicely done.