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Jim..47
02-19-2016, 09:43 PM
Has anyone used this and what is the kind of accuracy that can be expected?

I've been using a 225 Gn. RN but at times it can hurt my hands.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005KW5K8A/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3RVZMB3CXU0O8&coliid=I3PZ0OUY9VYGXL

Lee Precision 452-200-Rf 6 Cavity Bullet
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21W1VGqEVrL._SY355_.jpg

melloairman
02-19-2016, 10:51 PM
I shoot a AR out to at least 50 yards . And the Lee 160 RF was not accurate . Went to the 200 SWC and it was accurate but the deep lube groove made the bullet hard to drop unless I let the mold cool a long time before dropping the bullet . I am now using the Lee 200 grain SWC TL and it is accurate and much easier to cast with . Was afraid to try the 200 RN because of the accuracy issue with the 160 .Marvin

Jim..47
02-19-2016, 11:30 PM
Thanks melloairman (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/member.php?13820-melloairman) , I was looking at that bullet earlier. I will get it ordered now. By the way, does it shoot accurate and load good, and how do you lube it?

turtlezx
02-19-2016, 11:35 PM
i got the opposite results the 160gr lee was more accurate than the 230 ball
each gun can give different results just have try as many as you can get your hands on and see

160 gr 1100 fps and less recoil & accurate

Jim..47
02-19-2016, 11:42 PM
Thanks for the info turtlezx (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/member.php?21160-turtlezx)

bedbugbilly
02-19-2016, 11:55 PM
Jim - I'm loading for and shooting a Uberti Cattleman 7 12" barel 45 Colt. Right now, I'm using the Lyman/Ideal 454-190 traditional 250 gr. boolir as well as a Lyman 452 200 gr SWC - don't remember the mold number but the boolit was designed for 45 ACP but it loads and shoots fine in 45 Colt. I load both those boolits over 6.0 grains of Red Dot. The 350 gr. boolit does recoil pretty well and as I'm old, my hands feel it. The 200 grain boolits? I could shoot those all day long.

I am getting ready to send in an order for a couple of 30/30 molds and I've been looking at the Lee 452-200 RNFP that you show - primarily because I like the "traditional look" of it. BUT . . . I am also going to order the Lee 452-200 SWC TL that melloairman speaks of. My reasoning is this . . . .

I have probably 20 + 358 molds for my 38s/357s of all different designs/weights/makes. The most accurate though is the Lee 358 TL SWC. At first, I bought it just to try a tumble lube design but I had my doubts. I was wrong about it. I found that they drop from the mold like butter, I load them as cast and I tumble lube all of my boolits in paste wax/alox. I've never had a leading problem and the 358 SWC TL are accurate out of all of my 38s and I have pistols with barrel lengths of all lengths from 1 7/8" through 6".

If the Lee 452-200 SWC TL shoots as well in the 45 as that design does in my 38s, it will probably end up being the boolit I cast and shoot for most of my plinking and target shooting that I do. I have a feeling that my experience with that particular boolit out of my 45 will pretty much echo what melloairman has experienced!

Jim..47
02-20-2016, 12:07 AM
Jim - I'm loading for and shooting a Uberti Cattleman 7 12" barel 45 Colt. Right now, I'm using the Lyman/Ideal 454-190 traditional 250 gr. boolir as well as a Lyman 452 200 gr SWC - don't remember the mold number but the boolit was designed for 45 ACP but it loads and shoots fine in 45 Colt. I load both those boolits over 6.0 grains of Red Dot. The 350 gr. boolit does recoil pretty well and as I'm old, my hands feel it. The 200 grain boolits? I could shoot those all day long.

I am getting ready to send in an order for a couple of 30/30 molds and I've been looking at the Lee 452-200 RNFP that you show - primarily because I like the "traditional look" of it. BUT . . . I am also going to order the Lee 452-200 SWC TL that melloairman speaks of. My reasoning is this . . . .

I have probably 20 + 358 molds for my 38s/357s of all different designs/weights/makes. The most accurate though is the Lee 358 TL SWC. At first, I bought it just to try a tumble lube design but I had my doubts. I was wrong about it. I found that they drop from the mold like butter, I load them as cast and I tumble lube all of my boolits in paste wax/alox. I've never had a leading problem and the 358 SWC TL are accurate out of all of my 38s and I have pistols with barrel lengths of all lengths from 1 7/8" through 6".

If the Lee 452-200 SWC TL shoots as well in the 45 as that design does in my 38s, it will probably end up being the boolit I cast and shoot for most of my plinking and target shooting that I do. I have a feeling that my experience with that particular boolit out of my 45 will pretty much echo what melloairman has experienced!

Thanks for your help. Let me how those work out for you.

OS OK
02-20-2016, 03:02 AM
I love that .452-200g. RNF Powder Coated in my 1911 with 4.7g. of 700X behind it for 900FPS but size those at .451", it cuts paper real nice and chambers into battery like a dream.
I use its heavyweight big brother, .452-255g. RNF Powder Coated in my Colt SAA with 8.2g. of Unique behind it for 890FPS and size those at .453 and groups tight as long as I do my part right!
In both calibers they look great in the cases. That big flat nose hits double hard. I cast them in the Lee 6 gang molds. You can make a huge pile of boolits with 20 pounds of lead.
20#= aprox 700 ea. of the 200g. RNF
20#= aprox 545 ea. of the 255g. RNF

Does this help?……OS OK

runfiverun
02-20-2016, 11:34 AM
I shoot the 165gr rnfp also.
in both the 45 colt and in the 45 acp.
it's wider than it is long but it works, I use it in my 45 colt lever gun pushed by 5 grs of clays to snipe grouse when I'm deer hunting.
it's accurate enough to take their heads off out to 25 yds or so.
I also shot this load in sass.

I also use in on top of 6grs of unique in my 624 revolver for super light plinking type stuff.
the load won't operate my 1911's so it needs more powder but in the revolver it's a light enough load and can be reduced in several way's.
but this one shoots to the sights, same as the 225 rnfp I usually use in it.

lesharris
02-21-2016, 02:18 AM
Another option might be the Lyman 185 gr. button style bullet. Saves lead and less recoil. Only problem ma.y not feed In all 45acp.s.

Jim..47
02-21-2016, 01:51 PM
Another option might be the Lyman 185 gr. button style bullet. Saves lead and less recoil. Only problem ma.y not feed In all 45acp.s.

Do you have the number of this bullet mold, or a picture of what it looks like?

Ricochet
02-21-2016, 02:17 PM
Lyman doesn't list that mould anymore, anyway. The lightest .452" boolits they show are the good old #452460 200 grain SWC and the #452630 that is a truncated cone shape, 200 grains.