30 cal wonders

[Harter66]

Wondering actually. .....;-)

Did anyone other than Lyman make a 311359 ,the little pointy 115 gr boolit ?

For whatever reason I don't seem to have much in the way of 30 cal moulds . 8n fact outside of a butchered up 309-160 , a 312-155 R2 and the 301618 there aren't any .......weird since I have as many 30s as 7mm and there are like 6 7mm moulds .
So what makes a good 311 dia for 30 WCF ? It will eventually do Whitetail duty but in the mean time it will be a training aid and south east Tx hog whacker . It's a bolt gun so for plinking around the 311359 is fine if I can find 1 at a price I want to pay . A fellow suggested 309-170 Ranch Dog but I think he may have been a little bit bias (RD himself). I don't think the 312 155 will be a good choice as its very pointy and the 30-30 I don't think will make 100 yd upset speeds .

I'm feeding a Stevens 325C with a 20" 1-12 twist. So basic loads are to be used .

[Forrest r]

You'll see cramer #50 molds come up for sale every now and then. Bought a 2 cavity mold a couple of years ago, 125gr sp and 115gr hp.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/forrestr-photo/50amp51hp_zps5de7e5cd.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/forrestr-photo/media/50amp51hp_zps5de7e5cd.jpg.html)

They're good for plinking. A 10-shot group @ 50yds from a 308

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/forrestr-photo/50ampflier_zpsaadf309a.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/forrestr-photo/media/50ampflier_zpsaadf309a.jpg.html)

[leadman]

Lyman makes the 311041 which is a flat nose designed for the 30-30. I use it in other 30 caliber rifles also.

[MT Gianni]

For a fun plinker it is hard to beat Lee's little soup can, aka 113 gr fp. If you look at the dimensions it really resembles Veral Smiths 185 gr fn 35 cal scaled down. If you keep it at 1200 fps you can leave checks off with no detriment, depending on lube and bbl you can push it naked to 1600. The RCBS 180 fp is great for a heavier one. Lyman 311466 is another wonderful bullet.

[6622729]

For a fun plinker it is hard to beat Lee's little soup can, aka 113 gr fp. If you look at the dimensions it really resembles Veral Smiths 185 gr fn 35 cal scaled down. If you keep it at 1200 fps you can leave checks off with no detriment, depending on lube and bbl you can push it naked to 1600. The RCBS 180 fp is great for a heavier one. Lyman 311466 is another wonderful bullet.

Go look at the NOE mold selections listed under the .308-.311. There are several great looking projectiles there. I have the Lee 312-155-2R and love it for 300aac in an AR. I had so much good luck from the start with that design I may just stick with it. I've been looking at the NOE molds but can't convince myself they will cycle in an AR. I I like the 311-169-FN or the 311-198 SP.

[Harter66]

Go look at the NOE mold selections listed under the .308-.311. There are several great looking projectiles there. I have the Lee 312-155-2R and love it for 300aac in an AR. I had so much good luck from the start with that design I may just stick with it. I've been looking at the NOE molds but can't convince myself they will cycle in an AR. I I like the 311-169-FN or the 311-198 SP.

I have the 279-124 fp that PP for a 7mm and shot and functioned well in an AR with M4 feed.

The first couple of mags in the 325 were less than great . The last round hit the top of the bbl and jammed but the operator seems to have that worked out now . Factory Winchester silver tips ,probably 50s vintage . I'd blame the groups on QC but who knows what ammo has been through when the aluminum tips are corroded.

Thanks for the input I just need to find a few and see if the dummies will feed then I'll be set to buy a mould or 2 .

[Mk42gunner]

For plinking with the .30 WCF aka .30-30, most of the bullets intended for the .32 WCF work well such as the 311008 or the gas checked 311316. Several makers have their own variations of these molds, the one I use most is from a group buy ran several years ago as the 314120.

Other choices are just about any .32 cal handgun boolit from 90 grains on up.

For use in your Savage, most any heavy(ish) .30-31 cal boolit should work for whitetail. Frank Marshall wrote an article that was reprinted in the 3rd ed. Lyman cast Bullet Handbook about using the 311284 in the .30-30 for deer hunting.

I think the Lee 312-185 would be a decent low cost mold to try in your gun. Mine drops ACWW at ~0.3125" so it can be easily sized to .311".

Robert

[aspangler]

Try the Lee 309 170 fn. I get 2050 fps with 50/50 gc'd in the 30-30. About 2200 with the same alloy in the '06. Groups are in the 1 1/2 to 2" range at 100 yd for either one. Deer are DRT.

[45-70 Chevroner]

For plinking with the .30 WCF aka .30-30, most of the bullets intended for the .32 WCF work well such as the 311008 or the gas checked 311316. Several makers have their own variations of these molds, the one I use most is from a group buy ran several years ago as the 314120.

Other choices are just about any .32 cal handgun boolit from 90 grains on up.

For use in your Savage, most any heavy(ish) .30-31 cal boolit should work for whitetail. Frank Marshall wrote an article that was reprinted in the 3rd ed. Lyman cast Bullet Handbook about using the 311284 in the .30-30 for deer hunting.

I think the Lee 312-185 would be a decent low cost mold to try in your gun. Mine drops ACWW at ~0.3125" so it can be easily sized to .311".

Robert
Those boolits you mentioned for the 32 may work in the 32 but the 32 is actually a .321. They should work well for the OP's needs though.

[Harter66]

I took it for granted the reference was to a pistol and not the Winchester Special. I had a 32 Remington I used a 323-175 in .

[Mk42gunner]

Those boolits you mentioned for the 32 may work in the 32 but the 32 is actually a .321. They should work well for the OP's needs though.
No sir. You are probably thinking of the .32 Winchester Special, while I am writing about the .32 WCF/ .32-20.

Robert

[45-70 Chevroner]

No sir. You are probably thinking of the .32 Winchester Special, while I am writing about the .32 WCF/ .32-20.

Robert
As the younger generations would say " My bad " Your right the 32-20 is .312 .313, and I was thinking about the 32 WS.

[Ricochet]

I load 7.62X38R Russian Nagant using Starline .32-20 brass. The boolit has to seat a little deeper than a .32-20. In that application an unchecked Lee "soup can" works mighty well. I keep forgetting and calling them "ash cans."

[fecmech]

I don't think the 312 155 will be a good choice as its very pointy and the 30-30 I don't think will make 100 yd upset speeds .

I'm feeding a Stevens 325C with a 20" 1-12 twist. So basic loads are to be used .
You might just want to think again. That bullet with no GC and approx 8 grs of most shotgun powders (I'm currently using up some Alliant Steel) does 1300 fps and sub 2moa@100 yds out of my 340 savage 30-30. Not a bullet to hunt with but darn good/cheap plinker. The Lyman 311466 loverin with the gc will let you go fast with excellent accuracy. Those old cheapy bolt guns in 30-30 are the cats meow!