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sixshot
12-21-2015, 01:19 AM
Recently I've been shooting a customized Ruger 30 Carbine using 32/20 Brass & testing several different bullets. Today I mounted a Leupold 4X & retreated to the shooting range for some 18 degree load testing. Using powder coated 113 gr. HP's sized .312" over 10 grs. of 2400 & ignited with a winchester srp it took me 3 shots to get out of the snow & onto the paper at 25 yds. After another 4 shots things were really starting to look interesting.
Here's the next 5 shot group using an MTM pistol rest & very cold fingers.
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I didn't chrono this load, it was too cold & no doubt this load can be increased when the weather warms up but for now this load will easily handle all my bunny shooting for the winter along with my 32 maggie. With the added weight of the Blackhawk frame & the scope & mounts this load is like shooting a rim fire.
Now it was getting late so its off for a quickie bunny hunt. I quickly spotted one but its blended in with some grass & sagebrush in the background & I'm having a hard time seeing it even with the 4X scope. I pick up my Swarovski binocs & I can see him holding tight, that big black eye is a dead give away on Cottontails. I put the glasses down & pick up the scoped 30/32/20..... Hybrid. Aiming on what I think is the eyeball I gently break the great trigger & he starts kicking snow. A nice 35 yd. shot & my new toy is officially broken in & I've just shot both eyes out of the rabbit.
Five minutes later I'm watching a "hopper" thats what I call a bunny that won't stick, he keeps moving on me. Most of them hold in one spot, sometimes you get a hopper & they move around on you & you have to keep stalking them. All of a sudden I see why. Fifteen yds in front of me an Ermine is stalking the same Cottontail, he see's me & stands up & offhand I take the top of his head off, yippee! You see an Ermine (weasel in the summer) about once every 4-5 years & I've never taken one with a sixgun until now.
They are amazing killers, I've watched twice in my life as one has killed a Cottontail & it doesn't take them long, they are like a Cobra when they attack.
Here's the bunny with both eyes shot out.
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Here's my prize of the year, a prime Ermine pelt.
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After gathering up my prizes I move on down the snowy road & soon spot another bunny, this one is close so I punch his ticket with my proven 32 maggie & the 100 gr powder coated official rabbit eliminater using 3 grs. of WST, mild but nasty!
I take him back to the truck & its getting late & off in the distance I see another bunny sitting right out in the open at about 60 yds, way to far to try with iron sights but I have my new secret weapon in the truck. I sit down on the seat & use the window for a rest & take a few breaths to steady the cross hairs. I'm having a hard time keeping the scope on the bunny after climbing up the hill in the snow so I have to wait a few seconds to get my heart rate down a bit. OK, things are looking good, easy, easy, crack, that hollow sound from that 113 gr. HP smacking a bunny is a wicked sound, even with muffs on, it really crunched his lunch!
On my way over to retreive him I managed to fall in a crevice in the snow where it had bridged over the lava rocks & I was in a bad way for 10 minutes or so. I couldn't get my bad foot out of the crack, my rubber pac kept trying to pull off. I didn't want to lose my boot in the deep crack. Laying down in the snow I kept working my foot back & forth holding onto my walking stick with my free arm. Finally I got my boot free, it was kind of spooky for a while. I found my bunny & headed for home, 3 bunnies & a very rare Ermine, what a day!
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Dick

TXGunNut
12-21-2015, 01:33 AM
Nicely done! So, do you have any preference between the two cartridges?

Suo Gan
12-21-2015, 01:37 AM
Good job.

richhodg66
12-21-2015, 09:50 AM
I'm enjoying reading your posts about rabbit hunting with a handgun. I'm not a very good pistolero, I need to practice more, I suppose.

Thumbcocker
12-21-2015, 09:54 AM
Nice shooting and good story as always. What length are you trimming the .32-20 brass to? I have the brass and the molds but never got around to loading them in .30 carbine.

Ole Joe Clarke
12-21-2015, 10:16 AM
Stop it! You guys are making me want to own a 32. :-) I must be a wimp, 18° sounds mighty cold.

richhodg66
12-21-2015, 10:22 AM
It wouldn't be too cold for up and moving like that, it would suck to have to stay on a deer stand. My problem would be keeping my hands warm enough to be able to shoot a pistol.

EMC45
12-21-2015, 10:30 AM
Great write up and shooting. Always enjoy reading your posts!

Cornbread
12-21-2015, 10:33 AM
I love reading your small game handgun posts. Well done!

runfiverun
12-21-2015, 11:53 AM
I determined my 32-20 brass length by sticking the bottom of my calipers into the cylinder and opening them until they hit the step for the cylinder throat.
I done this a few times then measured some rims and added the two together and subtracted about .005 and went with that length for the cases oal.

Dick:
that must have been you I heard over at the rifle side while I was on the pistol range with the kids yesterday.
Charlie stopped by and I had a nice talk with him until the kids come and reminded me they needed to be elsewhere.

sixshot
12-21-2015, 02:52 PM
Lamar, that was me, why didn't you bring some sunshine over, it was cold! I talked to Charlie but didn't know you were over there.
The 32/20 has a considerable edge over the 32 maggie if both are loaded full tilt. I'm not doing that for rabbits, my loads are midrange loads for cottontails, low recoil, you can eat the bullet hole & a lb. of powder lasts all winter.
Both can go way up from where I'm shooting them but no need right now. When we head to Wyoming for Jackrabbits I'll wind things up quite a bit, some of those big Jacks are 8-10 pounds.
Notice the eyeball is sitting out on his forehead on the one I shot the eyes out.

Dick