Substitute For A 32-20 Lever Action

[Good Cheer]

Any yall using light loads with light weight round nosed molds in a .300 Savage?

[Scharfschuetze]

Try using a cast boolit designed for an M1 Carbine or 32/20. Size accordingly and then use a fast burning pistol powder. If a plain base boolit, shoot for actual 32/20 velocities with Bullseye and if you have a gas check design up the velocity to your satisfaction using a slightly slower powder.

I've used this recipe in the 308 and 30/06 often for shooting rabbits or for light loads for the kids when they were young. I use the RCBS 30-115-RN (M1 Carbine design) boolit in these loads.

For the 300 Savage, you might try 9 grains of Unique for about 1,500 fps.

[richhodg66]

Recently I tried a full wadcutter for .32 revolvers using five grains of Bullseye in a .30-30 single shot. Squirrel head accurate at 25 yards.

[Mk42gunner]

My six cent plinker load in the .308 consists of a group buy 314120 in front of six grains of WW231 and a Winchester Large Rifle Primer. When I ran it over the chronograph, it gave 1220 fps out of my 26" barrel. Can't get much closer to .32-20 performance than that.

The six cents was figured several years ago when primers were $12.50/M and powder was under $20/lb. No I haven't redone the math.

Too bad my rifle is too heavy to carry in the squirrel woods, fun to plink with though.

Robert

[Maineboy]

Any yall using light loads with light weight round nosed molds in a .300 Savage?

I load the Lee "soup can" with 9.0 grains of Unique which gives me 1490 fps. The same boolit with 17.0 grains of SR 4759 goes 1810 fps. Both are pretty accurate.

[Good Cheer]

Ah ha! Yall are indeed having fun with those .30's!
I'm pretty sure there's a Lee 120 round nose in a box around here somewhere.
If not, well, there's a 313249... somewhere.

[Ben]

I recently acquired an 84 gr. wad cutter bullet mold ( 313492 double cav. ) for my Thompson Contender 30/30 pistol.The Contender has a 10" barrel , 30/30 Win. with a 2 X - 6 X variable scope on it.

I've shot this 84 gr. wad-cutter with " laser like accuracy " at 25 yards. I've also shot all weight .30 cal. bullets from 84 grs. through the 311284 at 218 grs. It shots them all very well.
A pretty amazing and super versatile pistol. I have since added a heavy barrel 10" in .22 Long Rifle. It is likewise super accurate.

This 1st photo is a combination of 84 gr. wadcutters along with Modern Bond 190 gr.spire points. An example of the extremes that this pistol will shoot very well.

If you just want to get out on the range and have some FUN, this is the one to take with you.

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[chsparkman]

Sounds like so much fun. I wish I could find such a boolit for my .270

[FergusonTO35]

I have lotsa fun shooting the Lee 113 grain out of my 336 Texan. I'm thinking a medium speed pistol powder like Unique or 4756 worked best, been shooting deer loads in it for the last few months. My current more than a .22/less than big game choice is my .357 1894 carbine. Havent had a chance to really work up loads for it but the carbine really likes the Lee 358-125-RF.

[Three44s]

My favorite would be my 10" Tender in .30 Herret .......... I have a .30-30 in a super 14" that is great but the 10" barrels make the Tenders much more portable.

A lot of folks frown on the .30 Herret and I understand that what with the cutting down of the casing (from .30-30) ........ and I understand there is a pretty good work around ........ somebody made up chamber reamers that cut the body of the .30 Herret but leaves the case full .30-30 Win. length.

You have a reduced boiler room to syncronize with a 10" barrel but a long ..... long neck and not cutting down of the resultant casing.

Best regards and good shooting!

Three 44s

[Good Cheer]

Think I'm gonna get a light weight spire point... somewhere.

[Scharfschuetze]

Not a lot of bearing surface with light boolits. A spitzer will compromise that even further. While not a "lightweight," perhaps a boolit designed for the 7.62X39 Soviet cartridge would suit?

By the way, why the Nakajima J9N Kikka for an avitar?

[Good Cheer]

Not a lot of bearing surface with light boolits. A spitzer will compromise that even further. While not a "lightweight," perhaps a boolit designed for the 7.62X39 Soviet cartridge would suit?

By the way, why the Nakajima J9N Kikka for an avitar?

It's a whiffer, a "what if" concept on what might have been needed to meet the B-29's off shore and have enough speed to survive the P-51's. The fuselage and wings are modified from a Ki-61, engines are copies of the Jumo004 rather than the BMW's, stand off larger bore cannon to allow firing from outside the range of the B-29's turrets, less wing loading for longer range flights, drop tanks (not shown), ventral mounted booster to get it all off the ground. It was a fun build. Named it Tonbo for dragonfly.

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[Good Cheer]

On the boolit choice, yeah, been considering the Lee mold for the AK round.

[Larry Gibson]

Might try the Hornady .32 swaged LSWC sized through a .311 sizer over .32 gr Bullseye. I believe you'll be "smitten" by that load. If so then the Lee TL314-90-SWC is the cast twin. I lube mine with a .314 H&I die and then size down to .312, .311, .310 or .309 in Lee push through sizers to fit the cartridge/bore. That way the lube in the grooves keeps them from swaging away and I don't have to relubed them. I use .311 as a standard for most all .30 cals though.

That 3.2 gr load of Bullseye will give you about 850 - 900+ fps and excellent accuracy. No recoil, minimal noise and deadly on small critters and marvelous for plinking.

Larry Gibson

[nekshot]

there was a time I had alot of fun with Trail Boss and these slow rounds but, thats wishful thinking now!

[FergusonTO35]

I love aviation history. Good thing Germany and Japan didn't get the jet engine figured out earlier than they did!

[Good Cheer]

Used to work with a guy that had worked on a WWII German Jumo jet engine in college and they had got it running. He told me the problem the Germans had lack of materials due to their sources being cut off. That made them design to meet what was available, which prevented better performance.

[jlchucker]

I haven't been able to find a 32-20 lever action that I could afford these days. My substitute is a Rossi trapper in .357. For casual plinking I have been using 38 special cases and a Lee 125 gr RNFP, over 3.8 grains of Titegroup. For my particular Rossi, which was slicked up by my gunsmith for smoothness, I need to seat my boolits to the leading edge of the lube groove and crimping them there. If I seat those boolits down to the crimping groove, the overall length is such that I run into feeding and jamming issues. No such feeding problems when using .357 cases and loads. Someday, maybe I'll stumble into an affordable old Marlin or Winchester, but for now the Rossi, with no snob appeal, works just fine.

[northmn]

For the larger capacity cases I have looked at the Lee 160 grain spire point as designed for the 7.62X39. I tried the 120 grain round nose in the 30-30 and it could be made to work. The 300 Savage has a shorter neck and would benefit from the pointed bullet. The lighter bullets work very well in my 32-20 but for my larger cpacity rifles I prefer a slightly heavier bullet. Load them hard cast and slow and bullet weight does not matter much.

DP

[Whit Spurzon]

I use the Lee 113 Soup Can over a enough Bullseye to get it going between 900-1000 fps and use it for the chickens in silhoutte matches. Way fun.


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[Frank46]

If you ever come across a lyman 311316 gas check mold buy it. Was made for the 32-20 but shoots great in the 30 calibers. Used it in a winchester low wall 32-20 and besides accurate was fun to shoot. Still wonder why I sold it and what I did with the money. That was in my salad years. All green and mixed up. Frank